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I propose the league members vote off two players ($2 salary or less to not be too harsh) so that his team is legal and complies with the roster regulations. I won't waste anymore time talking about this. Want to see if I'm the only one who thinks everyone should play by the rules. Thanks guys. Excited for the off season!
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If nobody else objects to this I don’t really care. I just think it’s in bad sportsmanship that everyone else plays by the rules except him. And then instead of just taking the actions to make his team legal which is clearly the right and honest thing to do he makes excuses why he doesn’t have to. There’s obvious advantages to hoarding extra players that nobody else does. Since this isnt his first offense I think it’s necessary to penalize him which the rules state we can (and should).
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you didn't make a trade. you saw your roster was illegal this morning and cut one guy and left it over by 2 players and then purposely didn't do anything until off season rosters locked tonight. that's illegal by rule. it's really clear.
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Eggs- So, if someone completes a 2-3 trade in the offseason and it puts them above the player or salary limit, you expect them to cut a player before.... when?
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Scapegoats, and this may be semantics, but did I willingly go over "roster AND salary cap limits"? The rule says "and", not "or". And implies, to me, the spirit of the rule to be don't go over both without fixing it before (reasonable timeframe, given circumstance).
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If anyone else has a problem with my team having 47/45 players on it between now and when arbitration begins, I will cut down within 48 hours. If anyone else thinks I routinely don't play by the rules, I will give up my team.
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'at no time' includes april. and end of september. and october. it means 'at no time'
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""c. At no time shall a team willingly go over roster and salary cap limits. If a team knowingly does this, they will face penalties at the discretion of their league's commissioner.""
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yes ottoneu is year round.
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In april, you mean when we had no idea if there would be baseball?
Pathetic Losers on
September 28, 2020 12:52 AM
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you did this in april too. sat with an illegal roster for over a week and claimed you hadn't logged in but when u check someone's team in ottoneu it tells you when they last logged in and that wasnt true, you were checking everyday. again, just asking that everyone play by the rules.
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everyone else in the league plays by the rules except for you. ya if it was the end of the season and you were out of the race and didnt check for a few days fine. but that's not the case. you make more moves than anyone. just play by the rules, and you claerly don't intend to so i'm asking the commish to intervene and punish you this time so we dont have to go over this again.
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""c. At no time shall a team willingly go over roster and salary cap limits. If a team knowingly does this, they will face penalties at the discretion of their league's commissioner.""
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you were 3 players over the limit this morning before you logged in and cut one guy. leaving your roster purposefully 2 players over the limit.
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Lastly, it is absolutely false that roster limits are in place during the offseason. Most rosters will be illegal when salaries increase until the day of final cuts.
Pathetic Losers on
September 28, 2020 12:38 AM
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Second, I don't think my roster has ever been illegal for more than a day, to say I "constantly log in and see (my) roster is illegal" is just not accurate.
Pathetic Losers on
September 28, 2020 12:35 AM
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If I'm reading rule D right, that is spicifically toward the dollar amount you pledge in a bid, and the fallout from that.
Rule C specifically deals with roster limits.
JV Baseball on
September 28, 2020 12:34 AM
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Thanks for bringing your opinion to a public space. First, there is ambiguity: d. Teams are allowed to bid such that they would go over roster or cap limits if they win the auction. If they do win the auction, they will have to get under roster and cap limits before they can set their lineups, make trades, or bid on other auctions.
Pathetic Losers on
September 28, 2020 12:32 AM
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and yes roster caps are 100% in affect in the off season. why wouldn't every team roster 60 guys and pickup every prospect and every reliever that might have an opportunity to be a closer or start on the big league team and then decide who to cut in January. that's not true at all.
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i know it's not that big of a deal it's just obnoxious that everyone else plays by the rules. you consistently log in and see your roster is illegal and do nothing about it. i would propose the rest of the league votes two $2 or less players off your roster to get it legal for the off season. i'm sure if we did that it won't keep happening.
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""c. At no time shall a team willingly go over roster and salary cap limits. If a team knowingly does this, they will face penalties at the discretion of their league's commissioner.""
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there's no ambiguity and this isnt the first time you've shown blatant disregard for the rule
c. At no time shall a team willingly go over roster and salary cap limits. If a team knowingly does this, they will face penalties at the discretion of their league's commissioner.
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Good season everyone, and congratulations Eggs.
I am aware that my roster is over the limit. I will make my final cuts before arbitration begins. If you have an issue with this, my inbox is open. There is some ambiguity to the rules as my last adds were on the last day and my lineups wouldn't be affected by not being able to adjust my roster or start auctions. Roster and cap limits are not in affect during the off-season.
Pathetic Losers on
September 27, 2020 11:54 PM
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Congratulations to Eggs and Master Batters. What a fantastic final day of offence for MB. The eggs guys can finally rest easy.
JV Baseball on
September 27, 2020 10:14 PM
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yes i also think the trade deadline came very quick this year. i know i wasn't ready to really mortgage my future to do a deal like that. like i said no issue with the deal. good convo tho.
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No, it's all good. I would probably be in better shape this year and next without that trade, but you shoot your shot! I might have the room to carry some pieces away from that deal into next season, if you guys don't hammer me too hard in November.
JV Baseball on
September 24, 2020 4:44 PM
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And I suppose since I currently have the talking stick, Id reiterate Bleating's point as to having a discussion, public or private, about any potential vetos before any future veto voting is considered. Its been said in a different way by Bleating already re: surplus, but even at the time I believe the case was pretty clear as a fair deal, and now since its execution, Id say I'm quite happy with the way the deal has already matured. Happ in particular! Sorry, Bleating ;)
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Sounds like this has been amicably resolved (which is indeed a pleasant alternative to how these convos go in other forums), but FWIW, I am usually a "shopper" of high end talent whilst selling the way I did. In this instance however, during negations with Bleating, I perused the other potential buyers and didn't see anything worth reaching out about. And for a 2nd "FWIW", these negotiations lasted the better part of a week with many many iterations, so I had plenty of time t
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again, given the circumstances of this season i am and was fine with the deal !
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i don't have a problem with the deal. especially in short season, i don't think i would have given up more for those guys. so good on FVPV. however, in a normal year if someone is going to sell a top 10 player (much less two in the same deal) i would hope they would publicly shop them a bit more to make sure they are getting the best possible return
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My inbox is always open, and I welcome a public flogging! I enjoy and am comfortable with explaining my thinking, sharing strategy ideas, etc.
JV Baseball on
September 24, 2020 2:28 PM
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Fair point. Our current political hellscape has me avoiding the majority of internet "discussions" under the assumption that everything devolves into misery. Maybe I carve out an exception for us fine Ottoneurs.
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Fv/PV got and estimated $30 to $40 in future value in that deal. Much more constructive is to ask the people involved to explain their thinking. Veto votes generally aren't helpful.
JV Baseball on
September 24, 2020 2:22 PM
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Look at how poorly that trade has worked out for me. Further proof why one shouldn't ever veto unless it's actually a garbage deal. IE Mike Trout for salary relief.
JV Baseball on
September 24, 2020 2:18 PM
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Good season guys, considering the circumstances. I know everyone had a lot going on, and fantasy was the least of many peoples worries, but I would like to make a plea in the future to at least check out the trades that go through. We very rarely have many veto votes, but this trade had 3, with 8 abstentions. https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/908/viewtrade?id=60886&pending=1 No fault or blame to anyone, just want to make sure everyone is on the same page.
(Likely) Congrats to Eggs on a beh
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Since the tally is 1-1 and I don’t wanna drag it out at all, I’m cool siding with Bleating. Very much my dumb mistake, and I’ll just learn from it! Best of luck the rest of the season everyone!
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Hate to say, as it has happened to me in the past, but we have 48 hr to make sure we have input the correct bid. I have to say it stands! Could be because I got the $25 player for $5. ;-)
JV Baseball on
September 10, 2020 5:04 PM
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all good on my end, i was re-auctioning madbum to cut him and his 87 mph fastball
Batboys on
September 10, 2020 4:01 PM
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Oh man, that’s what happened!! I made an oops, wondering if the league would be cool with a fix? I intended to place a 10 dollar bet on Arozarena (clearly not enough to out bid Bleating), but it appears I accidentally placed this bid on Bum. Would it be okay if Bum was placed on Batboys for 8$ (I’m sure to be cut), and me given those 10 bucks back? If not, no biggie, I do understand it was my fat fingered mistake... just figured I’d make my plea
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I like him a lot at $5! Passes the eye test for sure. Whip-quick swing and legs!
JV Baseball on
September 10, 2020 2:07 PM
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Wow, $25 for Arozarena. That's aggressive.
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Baaaaaaaaaaaa! 🐐
JV Baseball on
August 26, 2020 11:29 PM
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Very interesting - thanks for sharing!
Batboys on
August 8, 2020 10:01 AM
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Hey cool, this league made Justin Vibber's latest power rankings
As of August 2 standings, this is the 9th toughest 5x5 league in all of ottoneu 5x5 format (69 leagues).
https://pointsabove.com/2020/08/07/ottoneu-power-rankings-july-2020/
JV Baseball on
August 7, 2020 12:22 PM
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Happy Opening Day, whatever form it ends up taking. Good luck to everyone!
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Hey guys, if I may hijack our message board for a second: there's one team open in the ottoneu lockdown league, the Out Of The Park 21 league Niv us running. If you're interested you need ootp21 and to reply to the most recent ootp thread in the community forum. Thanks!
JV Baseball on
June 28, 2020 2:12 PM
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It has been a weird 2020 already, but that is too crazy!
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Baseball is back! With only 60 games I might actually have a chance to win 😆
FU Jobu on
June 25, 2020 6:53 PM
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I just realized I was illegal for a while. Sorry, haven't been very active.
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commish, are we allowed to sit with an illegal roster during this lockdown. i wouldnt mind rostering some extra players while we wait for the season to start....
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