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Yeah there are places where the projection turns more into an art than a science. The way I approached was for top end pitchers I assume you are taking every inning they pitch. Cut off for me varies based on the team construct but usually I am assuming you get every inning from your top 5-6 RPs and every inning from your top 6-7 SPs, then whatever innings left needed to reach 1500 I just give the average P/IP from the rest of the teams pitchers.
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I did the same, Flying Squirrels! I have mine running ATC and it's just my team currently. Curious how you approached pitching - I imagine I'll do some streaming, so it was kinda guesswork on how many innings I might expect to use from each of my pitchers, and of course, in theory if I'm streaming smartly, their per-inning value would hopefully be higher than their total projection, since I'd avoid the bad matchups, etc.
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For those unaware I have put together an excel sheet to get season projections for my teams. If you want to know what your team is projected to score for ATC, Steamer, The BAT, ZiPS, or Depth Charts just let me know and I am happy to run it for you.
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I had it on while I was working. More listened than watched but great to have baseball on again!
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Anyone else watch the Red Sox vs Northeastern today?
Winnetka Cubs on
February 24, 2023 8:39 PM
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I am actively shopping Verlander and would like to trade him sooner than later but willing to wait if I I don’t get what i feel are reasonable offers. I think Verlander has huge value at 8 dollars this year and 10 dollars next year, but my team has so many holes (especially at OF)
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Draft
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Hey Baker Street, If you have any questions regarding the auction or anything else, feel free to ask here on the message board.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 21, 2023 1:11 PM
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Hi, everyone. Sorry I haven't posted or responded--Ive been figuring out how it all works.
I know Baz, as he mentioned--he'd told me how fun Ottoneu was after he joined last summer, & when he said there was an opening in the league he was in, I decided I should get in on it.
I'll be at the auction tonight, but whether I'm "ready" is another question. I'm looking forward to an exciting season & being able to do something other than question/lam
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For those that haven't responded on the message board, I sent them a DM reminding them of tonight's draft.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 21, 2023 7:41 AM
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Good for draft time.
Baddoo d' Bohm on
February 20, 2023 1:50 PM
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Yes ready for tomorrow evening. Hopefully we wouldn't change it this late now with one owner already leaving due to the date/time.
SodoMojoDojo on
February 20, 2023 1:15 PM
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Yes ready to go!
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I'm good for the draft, I maybe either a few minutes late or distracted early, I have to put a six year old to bed at 8:15 EST.
Slobberpuss on
February 20, 2023 9:23 AM
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Hey everyone, my name is Max from Chicago! This is my second year in Ottoneu and as some of you may know I really love trades! I’m going to make cuts tomorrow morning and look forward to the auction.
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Hank has notified my that he won't be able to make the draft and he has asked me to abandon his team. Is everyone else still ok with the auction draft date?
Winnetka Cubs on
February 20, 2023 12:23 AM
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Tentatively 7pm Central
Winnetka Cubs on
February 2, 2023 1:40 PM
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Hey Winnetka, what time is the draft on Sunday?
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Does anybody want to take over Spa's team in Best Coast League? One problem was we scheduled the auction for this Sunday.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 2, 2023 8:53 AM
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Hi Bazmanian Devils, welcome to the league and also your two friends as well. This has been historically a very competitive and fun league.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 2, 2023 1:03 AM
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Hey all, just a heads up that both teams were claimed by friends who I know from playing roto fantasy. We are all new to Ottoneu and I told them it would be a fun league with supportive owners and that they could finally try what I’ve already been bugging them to try since I’ve really enjoyed the off-season thus far. The two don’t know each other, both know me, and we want to crush each other into dust, not collude.
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Both teams were definitely paid for as of yesterday (I was the last lazy ass to renew) and abandoned prior to the midnight deadline. After reviewing my own messages with Baker & Spa and looking back at some trades I have my own opinion of what occurred.
Region Rats on
February 1, 2023 2:27 PM
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Spa’s team in league I’m commissioner is going to be available. Several of you are already in that league with me. If anyone else wants to join or you know someone, message me. Thanks!
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Spa also just said yesterday "It’s the deadline for cuts. Everybody but Region Rats is renewed, and he has been an active owner so I’ll assume he is coming back too." So then why would he say that if he and Baker Street had not renewed? Not trying to be difficult but this can't be spun as Spa, the most diligent owner I've been around, simply forgetting to renew. He and Baker were renewed and then he abandoned Baker and his team right after the message about payment was implemented on t
SodoMojoDojo on
February 1, 2023 12:48 PM
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Also, go ahead and check the claim a team page, still the same teams as the other day. It has not been flooded with expired teams like we would expect if the system truly booted them due to "not electing to renew". I think that will happen in the next couple weeks, can't remember the exact duration of the grace period but there are still no expired teams that can be claimed yet.
SodoMojoDojo on
February 1, 2023 12:36 PM
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I have also allowed teams to go past the 1/31/23 deadline and there was a grace period, you didn't immediately lose access to your team. I had one team years ago I didn't want anymore and the commish wouldn't abandon it so I just let it expire and it took a while after 1/31 to do that. Plus this happened yesterday which was still 1/31, the system wouldn't cause them to lose access on the actual day of 1/31. So I'm sorry but am confident that just isn't correct they both let their teams expire.
SodoMojoDojo on
February 1, 2023 12:32 PM
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"Neither team was abandoned, they both elected to not renew. The owner(s) who took over both teams paid for it with the same PayPal account." I'm sorry but this isn't correct. That message about the same account paying for both teams was there before either owner left. And the emails I've got from the Ottoneu system said they were "abandoned" hours AFTER myself and another owner saw the message about the same owner paying for both teams.
SodoMojoDojo on
February 1, 2023 12:31 PM
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Hey all, just introducing myself. My name is Kyle and I took over the Saratoga Thoroughbreds after my friend Bazmanian Devils informed me there was an open team. I honestly have no idea what's going on with all of the drama that played out before hand with the previous owner, but hopefully we get some insight into the true story. I'm looking forward to running this team and learning the ins and outs of Ottoneu.
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Also neither team has placed top 3 since 2017 when Spa won the league. If there was any collusion between those two teams it sure hasn't been benefiting them much.
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We definitely need to figure out what exactly happened, but Spa is one of the people I have enjoyed playing with most in Ottoneu. He is probably the person on here I message with most regularly and is just a good guy. I would be shocked if he was doing any level of cheating.
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Both teams had the notification that they were paid for by the same person prior to being abandoned. I was going to say something but, being new to the league, I figured there was some history there that I was just unaware of.
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Ah that makes a lot more sense. So likely it was just that both Baker and Spa forgot to renew, and as soon as it kicked them someone came and paid for both teams which then tagged them their teams with that.
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Neither team was abandoned, they both elected to not renew. The owner(s) who took over both teams paid for it with the same PayPal account.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 12:12 PM
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Most likely another league that spa was in with someone he paid for resulted in a championship for one of them. Knowing Spa, he said hell with it when they questioned his integrity. He’s a proud guy. Spa traded wild stuff with everybody. I don’t believe he singled any one team out to aid. I wouldn’t take his departure as an admission of guilt. All based on rumor and inference- I have no first hand knowledge.
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Yeah definitely seems odd. I mean both teams were abandoned not kicked out, which means it was the owners choice to back out, that makes it very fishy for sure.
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Right, I read that post as well. It's more common to play with family than to cheat, I would agree that's probably the case. But honestly how would they know? What data do they have to backup that claim? Sounds like Niv won't look into much or do much of anything even if it was questionable if you get responses like "I didn't do anything so no I can't explain anything". And again if that's true why not just say that? Don't you agree that is odd behavior if that's all it is?
SodoMojoDojo on
February 1, 2023 12:00 PM
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So my thinking is the two new owner’s that we have are related in some way.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:54 AM
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I just noticed this post:
https://community.ottoneu.com/t/allowing-users-to-pay-for-more-than-one-team-in-20-tier-leagues/12474/1
It is also linked by the”?” on Spa’s and Baker’s page.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:53 AM
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I agree Winnetka that could be the case. But then from the onset why not just declare the owner of Baker Street is family? Like you have done in the interest of full disclosure in other leagues we're in? So the moment that feature is implemented they would just both abandon less than a minute apart? Rather than just explain they are family? Or maybe Spa was being kind and just paid their league dues or something, great! Just explain that! Leaving that way is what makes it look the worst.
SodoMojoDojo on
February 1, 2023 11:49 AM
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Received a reply; “ I didn’t do anything so, no I can’t explain anything.”
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:44 AM
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“ Hi Niv,
I was wondering if you could shed some light on what happened with Spa City and Baker Street? Could there be another explanation besides attempted collusion? Purchasing a team for his son? Processing error either by PayPal or Ottoneu?
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:32 AM
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I messaged Niv, I’m sure he will get back to me soon.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:31 AM
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I might be a bit dim, but I can’t see why he would make questionable trades with us but not with Baker unless we were in on it, which we most definitely were not.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:31 AM
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Well, a lot of his trades with me and you and others over the years have seemed unusual (or "bold"). I'm not saying the trades are proof of any wrongdoing, just that in light of his sudden departure upon knowledge coming to light of both teams being paid by the same PauPal account makes those trades look suspect. If he paid for a team for his kid, why not just say so? I do hope you are right and there is an innocent explanation.
Baddoo d' Bohm on
February 1, 2023 11:27 AM
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I'm thinking possibly the same thing? Or a friend who he agreed to pay league fees for if he joined? I've played with Spa for something like 7 years now, and it would really shock me if he was cheating like that.
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I’ve never noticed unusual trades between Baker and Spa.
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:13 AM
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There has to be some kind of mistake or misunderstanding. Maybe Spa’s oldest son wanted a team, and Baker was available?
Winnetka Cubs on
February 1, 2023 11:12 AM
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Sounds like he knew the game was up when he saw that the site added that new feature. Decided to run before anyone called him out. Would be funny to see if there was any messages but can’t believe he would go to the trouble.
Region Rats on
January 31, 2023 11:20 PM
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According to my email Baker St was gone first and then Saratoga immediately after. He was just talking about renewing, presumably already paid for the next year and then all of the sudden just bolted. Also left another league suddenly. Not a good look no matter how you try to look at it or spin it. I'd be interested if the new owners would care to share what the message history was like between Baker and Spa, like did he even try to send fake messages to the other team and vice versa?
SodoMojoDojo on
January 31, 2023 11:00 PM
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You might want to look at the trade history between Saratoga and Baker St. (under Trades/Trade Status & History/Past Trades)
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