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If anyone else wants to trade one of the best players in the league and cover his salary, hit us up. We are open for business
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I've decided to make some more trades to keep the message board lively - you are all welcome
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The majority of owners seem to be OK with it so then I won’t have a problem. As long as people know it’s going on and are cool with it happening that is all I care about. Thanks everyone for their input.
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I'm late to the party, but as someone giving up the loan, I viewed this as an attempt to make up for past sins of running my team into the ground year after year. Holding stars for no return only to cut them for salary reasons at the end of the year wasn't an option. I hear folks that BBHMM can rebuild fairly quickly, but there was nothing illegal about it, and he's got some work ahead to make it happen. In any event, this has made the league more interesting. Look at all these posts!
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My 2 cents: I have no issue with what BBHMM is doing. It's similar to real life. Teams that are "going for it" trade prospects for high-priced one-year rentals. They mortgage their future to win now. The difference is there's only 12 teams in this league, so it's easy to do this and still compete next year, and there's no luxury tax, so there's no real penalty for going way over the cap. I was trying to make similar trades but I was too stingy lol. IMO, everyone should be making these
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Yes, three of the players they got totaled $204 so it wouldn't be difficult to do and keep most of the players that helped them to the second highest scoring total in the league pre-trades.
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so to clarify - with the cap at 400 - will he have to cut $200 worth of players next season to get under?
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To clarify, I do not want to throw any team under the bus and do not blame any team for what they have done to make their team better whether short or long term. I just think the league should not just sit by and allow everything to go through that two teams come up with when payrolls are going to be that far off other teams. I dont buy that BBHMM is screwing themselves because they can cut a couple players they got and some dead weight and still have a very good team next year.
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The second thing: There is real life precedent -- BBHMM essentially screwing himself next year (And possibly the following years) by going all in, is sort of what NFL teams do when they trade high picks for high priced super stars and then have to cut a bunch of players the following seasons or not resign guys.
Finally - Yelich is starting to hit and is available for young, cheap talent! Don't wait until its too late and hes a superstar again! He could win you the championship th
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Two things I want to note - 1) as a rebuilding team, its really difficult to pull of a trade for cheap, young stars like bichette/peralta, who are outperforming your high priced guys, and cost WAY less ($3/$11 vs $50-$70 plus) without giving up quantity, and doing the loans, because otherwise if you are the team holding the cheap/high performing players, why do the trades? Its impossible to make those trades work without throwing in half your roster and crippling yourself.
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I promise I am going to stop whining about this because who really cares? But for the record I think it is a bad precedent for the league to allow one team that much more money but kudos to BBHMM for pulling it off.
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I agree with Dirty -gathering a ton of loans is not against the rules, but neither is us vetoing. No reason to hold back our vetos for only illegal actions, getting a majority to veto a trade is still a high threshold.
Just spitballing, but in the future, a max cap threshold of a nice even number like $600 (or $800) seems OK. Would still allow a lot of cap/loan trades without making any teams silly large.
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Let me clarify. I don’t think the loan amounts are unfair. I think they’re super high but it just means Bichette is going to have to start over in the offseason.
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Saying the trades don’t seem unfair besides the loan amounts is like saying besides the bullet in the head how did you like the play, Mr President? Obviously hyperbolic but my point is the loan amount giving one team $200 more to spend than the others is the problem and a bad precedent to set, IMO. If everyone else is fine with it, OK. I just dont think everyone knows they have a say in allowing this or knows, its even happening.
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I am definitely not suggesting punishing them. Like I said, it's brilliant on their part. I think as a league, the whole reason we have the option to veto is to prevent stuff like this from making things unfairly imbalanced. If it was against the rules the system wouldn't even allow it to happen so that shouldn't be the threshold for a veto. If everyone is ok with it happening then that is fine. I dont know if people see it or know they can veto it. This is why MLB has to approve all trades too.
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The trades don’t seem unfair besides the loan amounts so I’m good with them (wish I hadn’t given up so much for Scherzer though). But I do think that the 4 matchups per week might be having the effect of teams throwing in the towel and selling really early in the season. Maybe we go to 2 matchups per week next year.
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So, I agree that these trades have some eye-catching loans attached. But, the reason I didn’t consider a veto is that it’s not against the rules. It’s how the system is designed to work - non competitive teams can offer loans to move their win-now pieces in order to build for the future.
I totally agree that this is starting to seem like a possibly problematic loophole, but no way would I want to punish BBHMM for taking advantage. Also, where would we even draw the line? How much is too
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Is any one else paying attention to these trades BBHMM is making? These guys will have a payroll more than 50% greater than everyone else. I dont see why people are not vetoing these? I dont blame BBHMM at all for trying (and getting away with it) but trying to compete with a ~$400 payroll while theirs is soon to be ~$600 gives them a major advantage over the rest of the league. They'll take on ~$250 worth of salary and will still have $5 free. Brilliant on their part but awful for the league.
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I definitely prefer single h2h like we had the last full season, but fine if we leave it like it is now
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I'm good with it, although as someone who is constantly at the bottom of the league, maybe I shouldn't be!
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Works for me.
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Agree with Nine Separate Misfortunes. It keeps the excitement of H2H, but increases the likelihood of the best teams (top 6 in season points) making the playoffs, which should be the goal, IMO.
Ketel Juan on
March 22, 2021 1:57 PM
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I think 4 matches per week works great - even in a full season its nice to even out some of the scheduling/h2h randomness.
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We are still set at 4 matches per team / week. It is a remnant of last year's short schedule, but I am happy to leave it unless there are objections
Statcast Away on
March 22, 2021 10:47 AM
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guys i'm locked out of the draft. Can you pause it?
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Final reminder. See you guys in 2.5 hours!
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Reminder that draft is currently set for THIS Sunday at 8pm ET
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Seems like 3/7 @ 8pm ET is the current favorite. If that doesn’t work for you let us know!
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I am good with all dates, 3/7 8pm est would be my top pick.
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all dates being discussed are fine by me - cant do weekend of 22
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I can do 3/7 at 8pm
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Reminder that at least 1 team is in Pacific time, so morning/early afternoon Eastern are tough.
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Sorry, but 3/14 won't work for us. Neither will the following weekend, unfortunately. What about 3/7 in the evening?
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3/14 works for me. Any chance we can make it an evening draft, say 730-8pm eastern start?
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Works for me.
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3/14 works for me. Does anyone object?
Statcast Away on
February 26, 2021 10:02 AM
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I vote for March 14... Selection Sunday!
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Sunday's midday are best for me but I'm flexible - March 7th, 14th, 21st, 28th at 11am/12pm are good.
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Has there been any talk of a draft date yet?
Dirty Danglers on
February 20, 2021 10:07 AM
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Reminder that tomorrow is the last day to cut players
Statcast Away on
January 30, 2021 7:24 PM
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Hey DangerDan! Glad you're still in. The next thing up is the keeper deadline which is January 31st. Also, I sent you an email. If you don't get it please let me know.
Statcast Away on
January 3, 2021 12:47 PM
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Sorry guys! Completely forgot about the arbitration deadline and didn't receive any emails/notifications. I'm still in. Anything I need to do at this point?
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We’re also good to run it back next year - but y’all gotta stop piling the arbitration on Bieber lol
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Yes - definitely continuing. I emailed the remaining teams so hopefully we'll all get it done.
Statcast Away on
November 14, 2020 6:59 PM
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More arb! There's still time! I'm in for next year for sure
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Looks like 6 teams need to do arbitration and today is the last day. We’re def continuing with the league next year right?
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Guys, I have one too many SS. Looking to move either Turner or Baez and probably looking for a stud SP in return with Verlander out for the foreseeable future. But open to any solid offer.
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4 × H2H for us, too!
Ketel Juan on
July 21, 2020 10:11 AM
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Sorry haven’t been checking but I am good with whatever everyone decides. Just looking forward to starting up!
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This is awesome. Was not actually expecting to have any fantasy baseball this year (and I'm still a little skeptical). When do FA auctions open up?
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