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• Lets make something clear. I never asked anyone to change anything. Not Niv or Tanner. I took the L. I sent a screenshot to Tanner showing my convo with Legend and Polk High saying the site was locking me out and the switch I was trying to make (12:24 PM on Sunday before the games)-guess you didn't see that one or care to look. I told them this sucks and i hope it doesn't bite me in the ass. I let it go and figured what happens happens, its 1 loss. I only reconnected with Niv when I was still locked out on Tuesday and went to change my lineup for the following week. I was still ok with the L and never asked anyone to change anything. Tuesday night around midnight Niv finally got my end of Ottoneu unfroze and saw what happened. He said he was going to look into it some more because my players started switching on their own when he unfroze it. I sent the message to Tanner Wednesday during the day to explain everything in case Niv changed something. Tanner didn't get back to me until Thursday afternoon while I was working. When I got home there was a message from Niv asking if the site was working and that although he could see there was a problem and freezing problems there was nothing to do about the result. I said I'm fine with that because i never asked him to change anything. He said good and that's when I texted Tanner to say he didn't have to worry about anything because Niv wasn't going to change anything. Again I never asked anyone to change a damn thing. I was trying to be upfront about everything in case something did happen so we didn't have an incident like last year.
  As for the shit talk, I just didn't appreciate my name being thrown around as someone trying to pull something shady. Some of you are connected on other social media and that's fine but it would've been nice to post the shit in here. There has been more than a few convos that have happened involving the league that haven't included everyone. As for trades yes I've sent out some trades, we all have. Some are good and some are shit. That's the owners job to decline and when the owner doesn't make a good deal the rest of the league should be able to express their opinion about it. The one thing I'm confused about is why did the situation with my team come up last night (that was 4 weeks ago and resolved-no issue)? If you thought I was being shady or were confused about my situation that I sent to Tanner, why didn't you make a bigger deal about it then. This only became an issue when I typed something on the league page. I sent that message because 4 other members of this league had sent me messages about how they felt about the fairness of the trade. I just think you were pissed because people were coming at you for the trade. Fair enough, I'd be pissed too because we know everyone in the league would want JJ for the 2 guys you gave up
  Steelcity72 at Oct 31, 2024 2:32 PM
• I think we're throwing the term "talking shit" out there very loosely. I'm not sure how I was being a bitch by showing 3 screenshots of a text thread of a conversation between me and Mountz about your claimed roster issue. And it's not talking behind your back when I didn't even know who all was in the snapchat group. Mountz reached out to me and asked me how I would handle your "acclaimed roster issue". We weren't shit talking "you".
  
  As you would see from the text thread I posted, I basically suggested he fact check you. I told him to ask you to send your email/conversations with Niv and or proof that you wanted to make the change before 1pm on Sunday. Your reply was "don't worry about it". And that you didn't have the messages because they were on the forum blah blah blah. (I think all forum conversations are saved somewhere but regardless). I said it sounded fishy to me and in all the years of playing ottoneu, I never had or had an other owner with this issue. And the other fishy part is that you waited until after the week had already ended. You should have been texting or messaging Mountz right away about the issue so that we could track it and all owners including Trust the process was aware. Instead you waited until after the week was over and you so happened to lose but just the right difference in amount between the 2 players, to proceed to send your issue to Mountz. That's what was skeptical to me. I was also skeptical about you claiming you wanted to start Josh Downs (after having 1 random good week prior) over Brian Robinson who was a top 10 RB to that point. But regardless I still told him to give you the benefit of the doubt but make sure he received proof before 1pm and you sent no proof and just said drop it. So yeahhhh, that's not a great look. I mean what did you expect him to do? Just change your score on Wednesday after your matchup and just hand you a win and screw over Trust the Process based on no pure facts and data?
  
  And you can complain about trades, but you're also the one who had been sending out offers on a $63 Waddle and a $46 Zamir White before you cut him lol.
  Hips don't lie: Shakir Shakir at Oct 31, 2024 9:41 AM
• Thanks Bass but Kyle was talking shit on another social media site. Snap?? Not sure but was told about it by another league member that saw it. I'm all for trash talk but he was being a bitch.
  Steelcity72 at Oct 31, 2024 8:12 AM
• Hey buddy i dont think KB and Mountz were talking shit about you. Mountz is a new commish and KB is an old stinky crusty veteran commish. Mountz was just consulting him on how the situation could be best handled. As KB is the co commish in this league and Mountz is the commish. But in regards to shit talk i think its healthy for a league to have some back and forth banter keeps things alive and exciting. This is historically pretty quiet league. im here for the shit talk. in regards to the JJ trade - think mountz could have gotten more if he simply waited and explored more offers. the deadline is weeks away and the playoff picture will shape out more, more injuries will happen, teams get more desperate etc. i personally do not believe studs are worth trading for prospects because i think there are always owners willing to give proven commodity's. in regards to the OTHER trade why are we giving $20 in cash? there is no chance polk or wicks returns $20 in value for this year or for next year. trades are trades hard to not let a trade go through, unless an owner makes an honest mistake, it is incredibly one sided, or there is a way to prove collusion. everytime a trade goes down there is always going to be complaining and resentment thats how fantasy sports work - happy halloween
  Bass, TDs and Penix at Oct 31, 2024 8:02 AM
• Good morning, I feel everyone should know the entire story since Kyle"Hips" wants to talk shit about me on social media making Wreck make comments as well. I woke up Sunday morning and decided to make a switch to my lineup the week I was playing TRUST. I tried to switch Downs and B Robinson. It let me but as soon as I clicked on another part of the site it would change back. I thought I was screwing something up but at 1 my entire site froze even the players not playing. I sent a message on the community page to see if anyone was having a problem and a text to 2 other guys in this league. I said I hope this doesn't bite me the ass. Sunday afternoon Niv the owner contacted me after seeing the message and looked into it but said the lineups are locked right now, I'm not sure what the problem is. I figured it is what it is and the site would completely unlock after Mondays game. The games ended and I lost by about 3 points ( dont remember exactly anymore). The difference between the 2 guys was 2.1 so no big deal but the site was still froze. I sent an email to the site and Niv answered saying I remember you from Sunday. He worked on it all day. In the meantime there was a stat correction and now I lost by 2.1 points which was exactly how much I the switch wouldve been (go figure-I wish I was making this shit up). When Niv finally unlocked my site late Tuesday(Wednesday morning) he said the weirdest thing happened. Your 2 guys you were trying to switch, switched. He told me he would look into and see if any changes would be made to the league. On Wednesday I sent a message to Mountz telling him the situation and that things might get switched after Niv looked at it and I didn't want Trust to be in the dark about it. I never asked Niv to change anything. He got back to me later and said there was nothing he could do about it. I sent a message on Thursday telling Mountz that the situation was over and not to worry about it. I didnt appreciate the behind the back shit talking when I never asked for them to fix anything but I wanted to keep people in the know when I thought there was a small chance something could change. It would've changed me to a tie, no big deal, and I even laughed about it to Mountz. As Will Smith would say "Keep my name out of your damn mouth". As for the trade, I don't really give a fuck, it's an opinion thing. If people think it's a shitty trade then veto it, if not let it go.
  Steelcity72 at Oct 31, 2024 7:22 AM
• Handle the situation that was nothing was said until the Thursday after it happened. It makes it look good for nobody and a lot tougher if a situation when you were aware of it right away. It was just a problem and more huge controversy waiting to happen and I’m tired of it happening year after year. But it’s over with and I’m done with everything today. I will be taking 24 hours to recover from the atrocity that was the Yankees World Series performance. Good night everyone
  Team Mountz at Oct 31, 2024 12:03 AM
• Handle what. I told you the situation and said the owner Niv was looking into it because the site locked on me and wouldn't let me adjust anything. When he fixed it he said I was screwed and he was sorry there was nothing he could do about it. I told you and said not to worry about. This is Kyle having a problem, just like last year when Legend had a problem and he didn't want it fixed because he was worried his team would lose to Legend.
  Steelcity72 at Oct 30, 2024 11:46 PM
• I didn’t complain about it, I went to him for advice how to handle it since we’ve had some sort of controversial issue every single year in the league I’ve had to do damage control for and no matter what look like the bad guy. I’m not saying you’re the only one in the wrong. I’m just saying this whole thing is stupid on all sides. It’s fantasy football
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 11:32 PM
• You're right it's not life or death so why would Kyle talk shit, which you obviously were complaining about as well to him since I only told you about the problem I was having with the site. I also said don't worry about it because nothing was going to happen but wanted you to be aware just in case.
  Steelcity72 at Oct 30, 2024 11:29 PM
• We have $30 at stake. That’s it. It’s supposed to be for fun. It’s not this deep at all. Everyone take some deep breaths and let it go
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 11:26 PM
• The week I didn’t set my lineup Engram wasn’t upgraded to playing until the morning before games and I wasn’t able to get to my lineups that morning for personal reasons that you don’t even know. This isn’t a bad trade nor is there any suspicious about it. It’s fucking fantasy football people, not life or death. I’m all for competitive fire but this is getting absolutely ridiculous. It’s gotta stop now
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 11:25 PM
• So Kyle you want to talk shit about me behind my back. If you have something to say , put it on here. You're just pissed because you and Tanner were called out for pulling off Bullshit trades. I knew this was going to happen. I called it 3 weeks ago when Tanner didn't even set his lineup. I said hes done this year and youd end up with a favorable trade. It's not the first time that there's been some very suspicious activity in this league.
  Steelcity72 at Oct 30, 2024 11:22 PM
• JJ is a one year rental that wouldn’t be on my team either way next year. Now I have a guy that would be drafted 1/2 rounds and auctioned for probably 40-50+ if he was available in the draft next year. And I have him for $1. It’s actually not that insane
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 9:51 PM
• I didn’t get any trade offers either..for jeanty, you have no clue what situation he will be in and shakir isn’t even a priority in the bills offense. But JJ is the best receiver in football. Make it make sense?!?!
  Polk High Panthers at Oct 30, 2024 9:49 PM
• You know we're in a dynasty league right...Polk was a 2nd rounder and is literally the Pats' future WR1 and Wicks has a ton of dynasty value too.
  Wreak Havoc at Oct 30, 2024 9:32 PM
• How do I get one of these rip one sided deals
  Bass, TDs and Penix at Oct 30, 2024 9:29 PM
• I am high on JJ but not high enough to trade a cheaper WR who is already out performing. And now that’s a trade for two scrubs WR who you’ll never keep for a baker who was nuts this and $20!!!!! I’d rather have $20 than those two scrub WRs. What are we doing in this league?????
  Bass, TDs and Penix at Oct 30, 2024 9:28 PM
• Jeanty is going to be a first/second round pick in fantasy next year. I’m getting him for $1 for a player I was most likely going to cut anyway due to salary. It’s not even that bad of a trade
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 9:24 PM
• It was Olave and Gordon/Ebuka which wasn’t enough so I tried to work it around Nabers to which you told me you would only do if you were getting a trade that guaranteed you won the league. You weren’t that high on JJ before I went a different direction
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 9:22 PM
• I don’t understand how you ask me for nebers and then turn around and sell JJ for a college player and a running back at that
  Bass, TDs and Penix at Oct 30, 2024 9:20 PM
• Nobody on the roster intrigued me more than Jeanty Shu, you could have reached out to me too when he went on the block. And Waddle at $63 who’s scored less than Shakir this year wasn’t much either
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 9:18 PM
• Definitely disagree. Offers were sent
  Steelcity72 at Oct 30, 2024 9:15 PM
• No trade was sent to me. I’ll give you a handshake and a bag of chips for him and that would be worth more than what you got.
  The Legend of Olmec at Oct 30, 2024 9:12 PM
• Posted two weeks ago JJettas was on the trade block and was looking to sell. Reached out to multiple teams today and looked at the roster of every competing team. This was the best offer I had at the time ready to sell. I value Jeanty as a future star of the league at $1. Ollie Gordon and Olave wasn’t enough to move the needle either. I don’t think Gordon will be all that. JJettas was on the block for two weeks and nobody was offering much at all for him so I took the best offer at the time I was ready to make a move🤷🏼‍♂️
  Team Mountz at Oct 30, 2024 9:09 PM
• I’m selling. Hit me up
  Campbell at Oct 30, 2024 9:05 PM
• Yeah very very questionable trade..
  Polk High Panthers at Oct 30, 2024 9:04 PM
• Not a great trade. 1 out of 10.
  The Legend of Olmec at Oct 30, 2024 8:59 PM
• Before making a trade for complete lottery tickets (college players) please step into my office. I have good guys on good teams in good situations who are performing goodly
  Bass, TDs and Penix at Oct 30, 2024 8:35 PM
• ???? Makes you think?????
  Steelcity72 at Oct 30, 2024 8:30 PM
• Reminder that the draft is TONIGHT at 8 pm!!
  Team Mountz at Sep 4, 2024 10:50 AM
• Just a reminder we are ONE WEEK away from our draft night of Sept. 4 at 8:00 p.m. Please come prepared and ready to go so we can aim for a quick and smooth draft. The season starts the following day so if you miss it, there is no rescheduling. You will have to make a team with the slim leftovers afterwards.
  Team Mountz at Aug 28, 2024 10:52 AM
• Thank you guys for your responses. This addition was proposed to me after the cut deadline which is why i wanted to run it by you guys. There were a couple that were for it but clearly the majority of the league is against it so we will stick with our regular roster lineup for this season and can review at the end of the year once again. Thanks guys!
  Team Mountz at Aug 28, 2024 10:50 AM
• I'm going to agree with those opposed with this. If this was under consideration then teams should've been notified before cuts were made. Either way I'm still "rebuilding" a mess from the previous owner.
  Trust the Process at Aug 27, 2024 2:20 PM
• We would've made our cuts/trades very differently so absolutely object to including another flex for this season, but would be fine adding one next year if that's what the group wants!
  Wreak Havoc at Aug 27, 2024 2:16 PM
• I’m fine with the decision either way. I see the point in waiting, I also think we are all in the same boat though so if we did add it on it wouldn’t be a huge deal. But I’m just excited to have an expanded playoff!! lol Good luck this year everyone
  Polk High Panthers at Aug 27, 2024 2:15 PM
• I agree to not adding the flex until next year.
  The Legend of Olmec at Aug 26, 2024 4:21 PM
• That was my thought as well but it was proposed to me so I thought I would take it to the league to see if it was something other's wanted as well
  Team Mountz at Aug 26, 2024 3:55 PM
• I agree with Kyle here
  Campbell at Aug 26, 2024 3:52 PM
• I have a problem with adding an extra flex. I don't think a decision to adjust rosters post cut deadline is fair. It effects the way managers may decide to build their roster and could have forced the manager to cut extra players knowing that their starting lineup was going to consist of more roster spots. If this is a change that you want to implement, I believe it needs to be agreed on before the offseason starts..
  Hips don't lie: Shakir Shakir at Aug 26, 2024 3:50 PM
• You can venmo or paypal me the $30 for the side-pot as well before the draft. If you do not have it saved from years prior, shoot me a message and I will get it to you.
  Team Mountz at Aug 26, 2024 11:44 AM
• I have also reached out to some of you but not all of you. We are looking to add a second regular flex position in the starting lineup/ I understand this change is being proposed after we cut players but so far I have not heard much pushback against it. If anyone has an issue or does not want to, shoot me a message. If we get enough against it we will not do it. Otherwise I will change the lineups at the end of the week. Let's have a great season!
  Team Mountz at Aug 26, 2024 11:43 AM
• Just over a week before the draft. The two changes to the league this year will be the addition of the Consolation Bracket. You do not need to participate if you do not like but I thought it would be fun to keep the teams the did not make the playoffs active in the later weeks should they want to be. On the same note of the playoffs, we will now be up to six teams making the playoffs to avoid so many teams selling early.
  Team Mountz at Aug 26, 2024 11:42 AM
• Helloo Just grabbed the Goonies..loooong time fantasy player..will keep lineups solid..meet all deadlines and love trading..this team looks like a fun re-build..Ill make cuts asap..any idea when draft is?
  Goonies at Aug 17, 2024 9:23 PM
• Do we have any updates on the draft??
  Trust the Process at Aug 14, 2024 10:03 PM
• Everyone, make sure you renew your teams on Ottoneu's dashboard by tomorrow or your team will be abandoned. There are a whole bunch of you who need to renew your team..
  Hips don't lie: Shakir Shakir at Jul 30, 2024 10:18 PM
• looking to make some moves have a ton of young surplus
  Bass, TDs and Penix at May 30, 2024 1:25 PM
• Deadline for arbitration is tonight. Still a bunch of teams yet to do their part
  Bass, TDs and Penix at Mar 31, 2024 7:35 PM
• Congrats Wreck. I wish Legend wouldn't have snuck in or else I would've won the darn thing.
  Steelcity72 at Dec 31, 2023 10:43 PM
• Congrats Wreck. I wish Legend wouldn't have snuck in or else I would've won the darn thing.
  Steelcity72 at Dec 31, 2023 10:43 PM
• Thank you, SteelCity! Appreciate it. Probably the best team I've ever assembled in Ottoneu. Looking forward to playing with you all again next year!
  Hips don't lie: Shakir Shakir at Jan 9, 2023 2:12 PM