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• Blake Griffin's trade block has been updated!
  Blake Griffin at Nov 12, 2021 10:28 AM
• GHIron's trade block has been updated!
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Nov 11, 2021 10:31 AM
• GHIron's trade block has been updated!
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Nov 8, 2021 8:03 AM
• Derelict Penguins 🐧 's trade block has been updated!
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Nov 3, 2021 9:12 PM
• GHIron's trade block has been updated!
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Nov 3, 2021 7:38 PM
• Reignmen's trade block has been updated!
  Reignmen at Nov 2, 2021 6:09 PM
• GHIron's trade block has been updated!
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Oct 28, 2021 3:39 PM
• Yeah I'm good with that. GH I'll put everybody back on your roster and you can re-do your cuts with the cap penalty stuff in mind.
  Rade Could Ball at Oct 28, 2021 1:22 PM
• I would say give the option of putting those players back on his roster so he can make a decision on who to cut.
  
  Just to clarify, the cap penalty is half a players salary. Odd salaries round up for penalties. So assume a $7 players equals $8 and you'll have a $4 cap hit by only $3 in cap relief.
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 28, 2021 1:06 PM
• Cap penalty is going to be half the salary, but on an odd salary number it rounds up a believe. So a cut of a $3 player has a $2 cap penalty. So in that case, you only clear $1 in cap.
  Rade Could Ball at Oct 28, 2021 1:01 PM
• A $3 player is like a $2 player that you only get $1 cap relief. You the cap hit rounds up with odd salary players, which is why you still have too little cap for roster spots. To gain $2 in cap you need to cut a $4 or more player.
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 28, 2021 12:59 PM
• Looks like this is the situation for you right now:
  
  CAP USED
  $392 (player salaries) + $6 (cap penalties)
  
  So while you're only paying $392 in salary, you have $398 in total because of cap penalties. I think that's the issue, but someone smarter than me can confirm.
  Blake Griffin at Oct 28, 2021 12:59 PM
• So I'm showing you with 3 roster spots and $2 in cap space. Gotta factor in the cap penalty when cutting a player.
  Rade Could Ball at Oct 28, 2021 12:59 PM
• I cut a $3 player....still not working.
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Oct 28, 2021 12:55 PM
• Ok.
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Oct 28, 2021 12:51 PM
• So you need to cut someone worth $2 or more
  Predrag‘s Royal Court at Oct 28, 2021 12:49 PM
• You need $1 per open roster spot. So you have 2 open roster spots but only $1 free.
  Predrag‘s Royal Court at Oct 28, 2021 12:48 PM
• why is the site showing that I need to cut a player ? if anything , i need to add
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Oct 28, 2021 12:48 PM
• Predrag‘s Royal Court's trade block has been updated!
  Predrag‘s Royal Court at Oct 25, 2021 12:16 PM
• Reignmen's trade block has been updated!
  Reignmen at Oct 25, 2021 12:12 PM
• Reignmen's trade block has been updated!
  Reignmen at Oct 22, 2021 11:54 AM
• Blazers Backcourt Bros's trade block has been updated!
  Walker, Kessler Ranger at Oct 22, 2021 11:47 AM
• Derelict Penguins 🐧 's trade block has been updated!
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 22, 2021 8:21 AM
• Eh fuck it nevermind. Blake and/or Griffin will ya ll clear me for the discord channel? Just joined, Trae
  Rade Could Ball at Oct 21, 2021 1:02 PM
• Sorry guys been out of pocket with work. Appreciate all the feedback on this both ways. Blake Griffin I appreciate throwing the Discord up. For me personally, I think a dedicated server would be beneficial so it's straight Otto talk. I wouldn't mind putting that together and inviting all. But I defer to everyone on what works best.
  Rade Could Ball at Oct 20, 2021 5:06 PM
• Trying to get on the discord: Reignman05
  Reignmen at Oct 20, 2021 4:07 PM
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  Reignmen at Oct 20, 2021 4:07 PM
• unless the drop was a mistake - If someone moves to quickly and drops - they should be allowed to get that player back. Been there , done that...good commish saved my season
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Oct 20, 2021 3:41 PM
• Anyone who wants to join the Discord can do so using this link: https://discord.gg/EBffUNba
  
  It's a multi-purpose Discord, but I'll make sure anyone who joins has the appropriate permissions for an Ottoneu channel, and if y'all want me to put together any specific channels for league purposes, let me know.
  Blake Griffin at Oct 20, 2021 1:44 PM
• I've had a busy day of meetings and missed all the drama. I think good calls all around on traveling back in time. Otto-basketball is still a new experience here. Especially if you're not familiar with the Otto format. To be clear on Beal, I didn't understand the cut at first glance and would have 100% submitted a waiver claim. Therefore, no way he would have cleared waivers at $70 or whatever lol.
  
  I'm 100% on board with a discord. I think that opens the league up to easier form of communication/trade talk as well. I can set one up if you haven't already Blake Griffin.
  Shrimp Shack Shooters at Oct 20, 2021 12:56 PM
• Final thought to clarify where I'm at. I have no issue with Beal going back on the original team. My concern is the reasoning behind it. There were too many coulds and possiblies as the reasoning. Could go under-market, might throw competitive balance. These are things we don't know and shouldn't assume. Cutting a high price guy to gain flexibility and/or force another cut is a strategy move and should be allowed to play out. This was not that which is why I'm fine Beal going back. Being a commish is hard especially with 11 strangers, thank you for navigating us through this topic.
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 20, 2021 12:24 PM
• Yea I agree with the commish move. Commissioners are here for a reason. And we can’t have teams dropping top 15 guys so they can hold on to top 250 guys. I feel for you Arsenal with the cap but I think the solution is to update your trade block with who you want to get rid of and the type of players you are looking for. I’m sure people would put together packages for Beal. But it’s all good Arsenal it’s the first week with the new basketball format.
  East Bay Funk at Oct 20, 2021 12:17 PM
• i am cool with discord, yeah my bad guys on the refresh stuff
  Reignmen at Oct 20, 2021 12:07 PM
• Imo the proper decision was made. Good job, Commish!
  Chetos at Oct 20, 2021 11:53 AM
• I’m of the mind that you made the best possible choice considering the season hasn’t even really started yet and Beal is one of the most highly valued players in the game - competitive balance could have been shifted too much from Day 1. I don’t think things like this should be undone in the future, now that everyone knows the consequences, but this is a new format for some(all?) of us, so it makes sense to have this be the one exception.
  
  Down for a discord server if y’all want to go that route. I have one already set up that I can put together a specific channel for if we don’t want to make a full new server.
  Blake Griffin at Oct 20, 2021 11:48 AM
• Reignmen, if you refresh on the message board page after you've posted, you'll keep submitting the same post over and over again, FYI.
  Walker, Kessler Ranger at Oct 20, 2021 11:43 AM
• Full rewind... I spoke with Arsenal after the drop to confirm it wasn't a mistake. He laid out what happened, and at that point my plan was to just let it play out. Then people had concerns about what a player that large being a FA 2 days after the draft would cause, etc. After reading some of that, I thought it best to just fix the issue and continue on as we were. At that point there were issues with NOT letting it just play out. As I said, two opposite points of view. Maybe I acted too early, and that's a mistake on my end. I was trying to move through an issue while aggravating the fewest people possible. That obviously has not happened, but I think that now that action has been taken it's best to move on. Going forward I'm happy to put issues like this to a full vote to get decision, or setup an avenue for side conversations that isn't this clunky ass message board. Would people be cool with a Discord server?
  Rade Could Ball at Oct 20, 2021 11:43 AM
• unless the drop was a mistake - If someone moves to quickly and drops - they should be allowed to get that player back. Been there , done that...good commish saved my season
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Oct 20, 2021 11:36 AM
• I guess I missed what happened initially, Arsenal added favors and Powell, that put him over the cap, and he cut Beal??? sorry just trying to catch up
  Reignmen at Oct 20, 2021 11:35 AM
• I agree with Penguin. I doubt Beal goes for $40 lol
  🥇 Are the Knicks Good? at Oct 20, 2021 11:33 AM
• Hi Reignman, Yes that is correct. Also thanks Blazer for also noticing Beal's draft price.
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 20, 2021 11:33 AM
• I know you're in a tough spot as commish. My point is that there was no decision that needed to be made. If someone is frustrated because Beal could go under market then that person should bid on Beal. Also the key phrase is "could have happened" there are 11 other teams that could easily bid him up to market. I'm not afraid of competition if someone gets under-market Beal.
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 20, 2021 11:31 AM
• I guess I missed what happened initially, Arsenal added favors and Powell, that put him over the cap, and he cut Beal??? sorry just trying to catch up
  Reignmen at Oct 20, 2021 11:30 AM
• I guess I missed what happened initially, Arsenal added favors and Powell, that put him over the cap, and he cut Beal??? sorry just trying to catch up
  Reignmen at Oct 20, 2021 11:26 AM
• Beal was drafted at $74, is Penguin's last point.
  Walker, Kessler Ranger at Oct 20, 2021 11:26 AM
• I think there was also frustration that somebody gets Beal for drastically under market value, which I think is also something that could have happened. In my position there were going to be people that didn't agree with whatever decision was made, but I guess that's what I signed up for. Penguin to your question Favors and Powell were removed from Arsenal and placed back in the FA pool. Beal was placed back on Arsenal at his original draft price, and his cap penalty was removed.
  Rade Could Ball at Oct 20, 2021 11:24 AM
• I guess I missed what happened initially, Arsenal added favors and Powell, that put him over the cap, and he cut Beal??? sorry just trying to catch up
  Reignmen at Oct 20, 2021 11:19 AM
• If we are going to place Beal back, can his salary be the same as his draft salary?
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 20, 2021 11:17 AM
• If you cut Luka then Arsenal would have $76 dollars to bid on him. Or he could trade his cap space for players and someone else could bid on free agents.
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 20, 2021 11:14 AM
• As you mentioned there were people on both sides, I think a discussion would have been beneficial. The only point I heard was that there was frustration because the draft just happened and no one had cap space. We may have several owners who are new to Ottoneu and aren't sure how you can get cap space but there are plenty of ways and zero guarantee Beal goes for original auction price.
  Cuz I'm Gonna Dunk It! at Oct 20, 2021 11:11 AM