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I replace the word “league” with “you” when I read these posts. The trade sucks for you. Happy to trade other pieces to other Pratt competing teams if this goes through
BeachBoys on
February 28, 2021 6:30 PM
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Pratt tanked and collected assets, then cashed them in and won the first year I joined. Then I did the same thing and won. I don't see anything wrong with that approach. Matt got a fucking haul in this deal.
Also, FYI, Tony and I are friends in real life.
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I can't not speak, I lied lol. Of course you are. I just appreciate the information being out there in this process of me having an issue with the moves being made. I have said a few times that the move itself is fine. The idea of this one move sucks for the league. The net series of moves being made as a whole collectively between Matt and Pratt specifically has me suspecting collusion.
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I’ve come in 2nd once and Viva hasn’t cashed. Worst colluders on the planet. You’re way off
BeachBoys on
February 28, 2021 6:25 PM
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Confirm. Now we aren't allowed to play with friends either?
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Confirm/Deny: Viva / Pratt / Matt real life friends. All in one and only one league, this. All routinely the only one's defending this bullshit.
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Trading future value for present value...Ottoneu 101. Class meets on the 9th green at 9 PM
Sox on
February 28, 2021 6:15 PM
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Lol, I asked just a bit a couple days ago who he wanted for his players and he ignored my message
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Proof of collusion or not (I think it's pretty difficult to really prove collusion in any case), the trade history doesn't lie. In this case Matt, I don't think saying Pratt gave you the best offer really helps given that's kind of the point of the issue at hand. Personally, it's just more of an unfortunate move for league integrity given Spring Training is hardly underway and we're already seeing a move like this. The fact that in the past you two have done this multiple times doesn't help...
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Your full of shit comments are what’s more damaging to league integrity. Every single player I just traded for is likely to play this year or next year.
BeachBoys on
February 28, 2021 6:08 PM
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Anyway, I won't comment further until this vote passes. Deflect away, but addressing your trade history probably more effective.
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I didn't offer you anything cause I don't want these players lol. Just pointing out that the two of you exclusively swap very NOW talent for very FUTURE talent all the time in cycles that suggest you're fucking cheating lol. You're doing it lowkey, but you're taking the best of two stockpiles, heavy prospects/studs and merging them in ways that mutually benefit you both. We have had a guy quit over it. You got away with it and are continuing it. It's annoying.
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These trades are a little outside the box for me but idk whether that makes the trades dumb or me dumb🤷♂️ . I have also only been here one year.
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Every time I make a deal, I notify everyone and try to drum up interest. The offers I get from Pratt have been the best. I go above and beyond to make the league fair. Your offers have not been close to this , and I think your lack of an offer entirely speaks to it.
BeachBoys on
February 28, 2021 5:58 PM
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Because there's literally nothing substantial to address. Youre just throwing out conspiracy theories. Also that other guy quit because of a trade that wasnt between me and Matt's team. Facts dont care about your feelings
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I mean, we've literally had a guy quit the league because he was tired of you two doing exactly this lol. I like how your response is to completely not address it and resort to an insult in my direction though, sure helps your case
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The deal doesnt need to be processed to laugh at your total incompetence
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Deal isn't processed yet pal
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Per usual, I am laughing at you. Not concerned at all about "the flashlights aim"
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Correct. I agree that I cannot prove collusion here, which is why I am not arguing that for this deal. In all reality I think it's a bunch or overpriced trash going back. I am arguing that moves like this are trash for the competition of the league, and the redundancy of you two swapping studs for guys 1 year out deserves attention. Sorry you don't like that flashlight's aim
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So absolutely no proof of collusion? Got it.
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We can all search the league trade history. You annually swap MEGA deal prospects for studs alternatively. You dilute these lopsided blockbusters that occur early in the season with a litany or trash nonsense dink and dunk moves throughout. I have no doubt that these prospects ripen on Matt's team before you blockbuster studs to finish his squad and run at the title in due time, for his (at the time) current up and comers for cheap. I also have no doubt that I am not only one who see's this.
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Anyone who is upset about this trade is welcome to trade me their high $ guys on sweetheart deals. Together we can fight the system!
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Lets hear it now then. What proof do you have of this "collusion"
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Nah, if the league is for it, then they are for it and I'll accept that and plan accordingly. To me this league is not like Otto, as it's the only league of my 4 that has $700 squads before game are played almost annually. I don't even had a problem with the quality of this move, just the principal. I have much more ranting to do Pratt, namely in the coincidental collusion of you and Matt
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I’ve come to accept that these deals are just part of playing Ottoneu. They don’t bother me. I looked at Matt’s team and thought about trying something similar. Pratt had the assets to get it done. I didn’t.
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"I won't rant or get into the merits of deals like this" but then proceeds to rant and get into it. Just because you don't like a trade doesn't mean you can just call collusion.
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Where were your offers? Made it clear to entire league I was accepting bids yesterday. Also, we’re either allowing folks to multi-year plan or not - huge holes in my hitting this year , clearly better for me to play for 2022.
BeachBoys on
February 28, 2021 4:33 PM
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I won't rant or get into the merits of deals like this until after the league votes on it, but if we want this league to annually be a circus race (largely between the swapping of studs/propsects between Matt/Pratt) to hoard $800 worth of players, we should let this deal pass. If you're fucking tired of it, please veto. This deal is great in July, it's embarrassing and wrecks the integrity of the league in February.
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These trades ruin the entire concept of running and managing a dynasty team. Having a costly sell off before games are even played makes for lop-sided competition year in and year out, it's unenjoyable and quite frankly feels like playing in an unfair environment. I don't often suggest collusion or advise a veto, but the fact that you two have danced this line so many times has me second guessing it for the integrity of this league.
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You can get Fowler and Alford and lock up that Pittsgurgh CF slot
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Actively seeking 1-2 outfielders
Sox on
February 24, 2021 10:43 PM
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congrats all getting it done in one session, was fun
BeachBoys on
February 23, 2021 10:12 PM
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My attention is going to be fairly hit or miss the first hour or so. Had something come up. I'm going to try to keep an eye on the draft, but I apologize in advance if I miss a nom. Don't change anything around for me though.
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I might be a few minutes late, too, but also no need to wait.
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May be a little late for the draft, don't hold up for me, I have ~no money to spend lol.
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Looks like it’s going to be one session, hopefully we can move fast and finish in 3 hours
BeachBoys on
February 14, 2021 4:12 PM
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I'd prefer a single session.
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I'm a vote for a single session.
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Eh can we just leave it?
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We can split in two sessions if we can find times to agree on. How does March 2nd at 730 work?
BeachBoys on
February 13, 2021 10:28 PM
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One session please
Sox on
February 13, 2021 9:21 PM
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If it’s 3-4 hours are folks able to commit to that? Seems like there’s not much consensus as to a second date.
BeachBoys on
February 13, 2021 8:29 PM
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If we can all agree on a second time I'd be in favor of splitting the draft over two days so we don't end up in a marathon
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Id prefer to just get it done in one night if we could as well
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I have a work trip the first week of March so am out that week. I am fine with two days but would rather do back to back days if possible. Since all expensive guys are probably done after the first night what is wrong with just capping the time and doing the normal free agent auction-style for the rest, as we do in season?
Big Potato on
February 13, 2021 6:16 PM
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Pretty sure it's at most a 3 hour affair, 2 90 min drafts sounds much worse to me, just delaying roster unlocks
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...D R A F T is like...FOREVER AWAY...on a Tuesday...with like a million people to draft...
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What do I win
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Awesome stats clogging
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