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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rXZ6ivhr1xS6c38DReWaS80kZT8dOFLjRvkUgvtluHs/edit?usp=sharing
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FYI - here's the tracker for Arb. Coupons. I'll add a note once i make the adjustment to the contracts. Shout out to Carp for filling out the form 6 times 🙂 -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rXZ6ivhr1xS6c38DReWaS80kZT8dOFLjRvkUgvtluHs/edit?usp=sharing
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Reminder, today is the last day of Arbitration! Quick schedule reminder: Coupons are due EOD 11/16 (Form here: https://forms.gle/ocMP4EGGb4EMUAsQ9). Trading is formally open on 11/17, but you must make your roster legal ($400 salary / 40 players max) before engaging in any trade discussions or sending/accepting any offers. If your roster is legal, you may discuss trades before the 17th, but no trades before I adjust the salaries. Thanks!
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Okay I’ll table it for this season, but after this round of ‘start of offseason’ cuts, I’ll make a poll for 2020 offseason and see where we end up. To confirm, $400/40 will remain the rule for this off-season. Thanks all
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On the other hand I can take some bad contracts with good extra players thrown in.
rotoball10 on
November 8, 2019 4:29 PM
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I like the 400/40 for the reasons Weather listed. Though the extra time did not help my team this year.
rotoball10 on
November 8, 2019 4:28 PM
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Thanks guys, to your point weather, I think the teams would be pretty lean after 450/425 cut downs because every team is gonna add around $80 (likely more) from the end of the season to the start of the off-season just due to arb + inflation. I know the difference between $450 and $400 is $50 of a teams worst contracts, but I think we could accomplish the same goals with a slightly higher limit. At least that’s what I was thinking
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I think I like 400/40, even though I would stand a lot to gain by the rule change. If we're all allowed to keep an extra $50 of mediocre contracts through January, more of our trade negotiations will be just us trying to foist our Jackie Bradleys and our Travid d'Arnauds onto each other, which nobody wants. Also, I really liked going through last offseason with some idea of which players would be available in the auction.
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I'm all for allowing the increase to $450. Unless I'm mistaken, most Ottoneu leagues don't force teams to cut down until final keepers. So this league is unique in doing so. I believe the original intent was to even-out/aid teams since this is/was a beginner's league. So keeping to the heart of the original intent, while allowing more flexibility feels like a middle ground. That all being said, I'm easy-going so I can go with whatever the majority decides.
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Give* everyone more flexibility
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(2/2) this would only go into effect this off-season if there’s no opposition to it (which you can wait till a poll to share thoughts privately) but I think given inflation, going up to 425 or 450 initial limit would fine everyone more flexibility. FWIW I’d be more comfortable only going to $425 for this year given short notice. Thanks
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Folks, I’ve had a change of heart on the “must make roster legal before trading in the off-season” rule in article 5.1 in the amended rules. Instead of cutting down to $400/40 man, i think it would be reasonable to only cut down to $450 or $425 instead. I think this will still serve the purpose of the rule (which I can outline better in an e-mail if this goes to a vote) but before I draw up an email proposing the change, How do we feel? Any initial thoughts/love/hate? (1/2)
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To clarify on your question, applying a coupon is limited to the $$ allocated to a player. $20 to Alonso can have any amount up to $9 of the coupon applied to it. Think of a $9 coupon as 9 separate $1 coupons that can be applied to any arbitration $$’s that hit your team.
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I think closing these loopholes is as simple as allowing everyone one "partial coupon amount" player, but we should confirm that now if so.
Weather Report on
November 5, 2019 10:45 AM
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"Yes" to #2 creates some loopholes. Picking on Carp and his $9 for a minute: if the group assigns (say) $20+ to Alonso and $0 to anybody else, the coupon can't be used. If the group assigns exactly $5 to each of 4-6 players, he has $4 unused.
Weather Report on
November 5, 2019 10:43 AM
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That’s correct Buehrle aka Stroked. Friendly reminder that this is detailed well in the google doc linked in the ‘League Settings’ page 🙂
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To my knowledge the answer to both of your questions is, Yes. I had to do a double take when I saw the team name, lol.
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2 Q's about coupons:
1- Can coupons only be applied to players who received an allocation?
2- Can we only apply a coupon amount equivalent to the allocation amount?
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Yeah deadline is the 16th. I’ll manually adjust the contracts in the 17th.
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Not that it applies very directly for me, but ... when do arbitration coupons take effect? Is there a deadline for choices to be submitted?
Weather Report on
November 3, 2019 11:34 PM
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You guys all have it correct. Just need to have a legal roster at the beginning and ending of the offseason as outlined below, but you can have an illegal roster in-between.
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Thanks, that’s what I thought but wanted to make sure.
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If I remember from last year correctly: we just need to cut to below $400/40 before the trade deadline starts. After that, rosters just need to be legal by keeper deadline of January 31st. You have up until that time to make any cuts as you want.
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We just to get below $400 and 40 spots before trading and not before every trade correct?
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After the arbitration coupon process. Is there a final cut day? Meaning, we cut our rosters to 40 or less players and under $400. Then is there another cut time period after the trading period ends?
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e-mail sent, please let me know if you didn't receive one! (another link to the Arb Coupon form: https://forms.gle/VL8dRSXofNdvvZxd6 ) Also, congrats to any Nationals fans out there!
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PSA: Arbitration has begun, and runs through end of day on 11/14, please let me know if you have any questions!
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Miami, Thanks.
rotoball10 on
October 9, 2019 8:38 AM
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Player or player(s) I should clarify 👍
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You can apply to any player that gets arb’ed
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Can arbitration coupons be spread over multiple players or only one?
rotoball10 on
October 8, 2019 3:05 PM
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https://community.ottoneu.com/t/year-one-ottoneu-owner-interviews-rotographs/6239?u=mmaude
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Congrats Weather and Miami on being co-champs. Very impressive and exciting end to the year! Congrats also to Pollock a 1st and 3rd finish in the last 2 years is also impressive. Woodpeckers are looking forward to better years!!
Thanks everyone for another great year.
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Also, I've always found ties to be kind of fun. Congrats to our other champ!
Weather Report on
September 30, 2019 1:20 AM
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Thanks all for the great year -- this was easily the most interesting and rewarding league I've been part of, and I think that would have been true even without the dramatic (and successful) finish. Looking forward to the offseason and to 2020!
Weather Report on
September 30, 2019 1:17 AM
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I'll have to give you credit for the idea after all those months of you bidding the minimum on every auction lol.
Let the offseason begin!!!
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Well that’s a wrap! Congrats to Co-Champion (sounds better than tie) Weather Report. And congrats to all on a fantastic and well played season all around. I’ll have more in a wrap-up email sometime this week so stay tuned, just wanted to say it was a pleasure competing with you all this year! P.S. dang Carp thought I could sneak a few by at the deadline lol.
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Congrats to the Champs!! I agree that we shouldn't try to enact any sort of tiebreaker for this season. And I agree with Showstoppers that it's a great accomplishment to win this league because of how active everyone is so I don't think we should come up with a tiebreaker for future seasons. There wouldn't be much satisfaction for me if a tie was arbitrarily broken after a grueling 162 game season. The chances of another tie have to be pretty small. Congrats again to Miami and Weather!!
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I can’t think of anything off the top of my head but congrats to both you. This is a great, active league which makes a title even more of an accomplishment.
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Well folks, barring stat adjustments or whatever, it’s a tie! There’s no official tiebreaker both for ottoneu or for our league so I think Weather Report and I split the riches for first and second (and congrats to Pollock on 3rd) We could decide on a tiebreaker but I wouldn’t feel right enacting it for this season unless there was a league consensus or whatever. Everyone’s welcome to share thoughts if they have em, but I think tie is the correct call here.
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All games are final and regular season is over... so who is the Slumpbusters Champ???
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Yeah it was a heck of a bidding war between Thursday and today! The max bids on the those two were even crazier🙈
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$27 for Eflin!! $37 for Chacin!! Those are gonna be 2 fun pitchers to keep an eye on this weekend. Good luck to both and thanks for making this a fun race to watch!!!!
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PSA: Today's the final day to start any auctions for the season. After Sunday, rosters will be locked through Arbitration. Please keep your roster valid at the end of the season (i.e. don't start 50 auctions today). Thanks all! we're in the home stretch!!
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Deadline day! All trades must be accepted by 11:59:59 PM tonight to be valid for this season. Two additional reminders: first, this is the last day to trade before the offseason, and second, a reminder of our Arbitration coupons (second page of this file) which will be awarded based on this year's standings. Now.. if anybody has someone that can get me 20 steals in a month please reach out :)
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My front office better not be leaking anything.
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Who do I follow on Twitter for all the Slumpbusters trade deadline rumors???
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Who needs some saves to close out the season???
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Nice little flurry of deadline deals there, Marlins seemed to make some competent deals! Just sending a friendly reminder our deadline goes til EOD on 8/31.
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What a night!! Bauer to Cincy, Piug in fight after traded to Cle in 3-team deal.
I feel like this league needs another 3-team deal lol.
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