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It IS about 2 teams, but the impact of any trade (renegotiated or not) is on all of the league. This is why we are allowed to veto trades. Our abilities to know how our teams organically work together is part of being a responsible owner.
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BTW, the commish told me in only involves 2 teams. This is be fun and if you cant understand mistakes happen and make this big a deal over this that will affect the league is crazy. So since you could care less if I'm in this league as a good Owner. Then I dont care either. So you can find a new owner. I'm out
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This trade affects everyone in the league, as every trade does. I apologize that you feel threatened but your self righteousness is a little bit offputting. You are the one who wasted all of our time by accepting a deal that you shouldn't have. We are politely sharing our opinions on the matter. If you think this is ridiculous or don't have time for a solution to be made then I'll be the first to say I could care less if you stay or go.. The discussion is reasonable to have given situation.
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The trade affects 2 teams here. I asked for a cancellation 5 minutes after The trade. That's matters. I dont spending my time on this. If you dont cancel it for a new owner then so be it. But probably won't stay in this league
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I absolutely don't think it was anything shady and have no problem with the trade. All I was saying was if Jacob's was new to Ottoneu cancel the trade or adjust it with a loan.
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Rules are rules, and it is fair to ask why a trade was agreed to without first getting to know the trade just as much as it is fair to ask for a cancellation of a mistake that was made for a new owner.
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I wouldn't be so quick to call anyone being unfriendly - I think there is just as much merit to consider past experience with Ottoneu in this case as it is the type of mistake that would not have been made normally by a veteran. That being said I don't think he was trying to say that even if you are experienced in Ottoneu that you were being shady. I think it was a mistake, but it is totally valid to question whether a mistake should be reversed.
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I respect any decision made and will make my decision on this league accordingly. Would love this stay
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I have had the team to review for 20 minutes
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The commish is nice but PHam doesn't make me feel welcome here. If certain owners want to stick to "rules" for a new owner then so be it. I just wont stay and will leave now
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Two items before this spirals down into "angry internet" territory. I do not have one single reason (nor does anyone else) to believe that anyone is doing anything nefarious to gain an advantage in this situation. The only thing I can see plainly is that a mistake was made. Anything beyond that is making an assumption about people we do not know. However, we must be fair to all parties and deal with this in a fair and judicious way. Let's remember this as we cast doubts.
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I believe by "negotiating the trade", I'm opening up the possibility that Kraken and Jacob@ can work on a loan. I think they need to figure out how that's going to work. But yes. Kraken gets her opinion heard and whether she would be open to renegotiating the trade with a loan (or adding/subtracting players) to make the trade work.
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Pham you are Wong- I just joined this league yesterday and just took this team over and have had about 20 minutes to review. I thought I had enough funds and I didn't. If this is how you treat a new owner, then I should consider leaving. We are all human and if reversing a trade for a new owner who hasn't spend much time reviewing my team then I feel sorry for you. We are all humans and we make mistakes. Not a way to welcome a new owner.
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I do think Kraken should have a say since she was negotiating in good faith.
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The question I would have is; is the new owner a veteran of Ottoneu? If so, then I think you would know how in season trades with loans work. It is also easy to see what your cap space is. If that is the case, I don't know that I would be in favor of cancelling the trade, because you should know to ask for a loan and if you didn't then just cut players to get legal. If this is the first foray into Ottoneu, then I wouldn't have a problem with this understanding that this is a one time thing.
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I'm fine with either decision - I think I would say i think it's best for the league if it is cancelled but I would want Kraken to have the choice to cancel the deal.
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On the surface, I want to grant a reprieve and cancel the trade because I believe Ericand Kraken will return and negotiate the trade. However, if I'm Kraken, I have a made deal and I expect a certain team when the deal is completed. That team won't be coming her way if I cancel the trade, and I believe that a certain sense of fairness must govern the way we make owner mistakes. I lean to allowing the cancel, because it's Eric's first day, but I'm not comfortable that this becomes a pattern.
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I don't have a hard rule to follow here in regards to cancelling a trade. In normal circumstances I would say 'no', but this is the first day in the league and there has to be some room for good faith bargaining and understanding the complexities of the league and your new team. But, because there's no rule, I need some help from the league. Do you mind me cancelling the trade? (my current opinion follows)
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I don't have a hard rule to follow here in regards to cancelling a trade. In normal circumstances I would say 'no', but this is the first day in the league and there has to be some room for good faith bargaining and understanding the complexities of the league and your new team. But, because there's no rule, I need some help from the league. Do you mind me cancelling the trade? (my current opinion follows)
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Please cancel the trade I just accepted. I didn't realize I don't have enough money.
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New owner for "Destroy" is Eric. I hear he enjoys lazy summer afternoons watching baseball and finishing a few points out of second place from me. Good luck on all of his endeavors. Welcome Eric!
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Hi league! Great start to the league. Nice work all around. Unfortunately, the owner of Destroy had a family crisis and needed to abandon his team. I removed him as the owner in the last minute, and the new owner should be signing up very shortly. I hope this doesn't interrupt the season too much, but it sounds like Andy was going through a difficult time. So welcome the new owner to our midst in the next few hours.
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Ka'anapali Krushers's trade block has been updated!
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Giovanni's Beer Pong Mates 🍻's trade block has been updated!
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Stud Foundations's trade block has been updated!
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Evan Gattis is available for an outfield upgrade.
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Release the Kraken! 🦑's trade block has been updated!
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Anyone want to take Wilson Ramos off my hands? :)
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Good luck to everyone. Remember, if there’s an outfielder burning a hole in your pocket and you desire cheap sp depth, I’m interested. Not dealing from the top shelf.
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The Rizzorectors🔥⚾️'s trade block has been updated!
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Hey everyone! In the home stretch-baseball is close at hand. Make sure to get those rosters set and legal, so you can maximize your daily points. On a personal note, I offer my Cubs season ticket games each season to my FBB league mates. Feel free to contact me about games throughout the season. I have 2 seats-Aisle 511, Row 5. The seats are even with 3B. Sheltered from the sun and rain. A view of the lake and easy access to the Park @ Wrigley. PM if you are interested. Happy baseball!
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The Rizzorectors's trade block has been updated!
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I will deal Torres for a stud shortstop or starting pitcher.
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Dammit Polanco.
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Stud Foundations's trade block has been updated!
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Pham you are Wong's trade block has been updated!
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Release the Kraken! 🦑's trade block has been updated!
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Destroy's trade block has been updated!
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Wow! What a first week. Some of you guys are burning up the trades and the waiver wire. Just remember to keep your rosters legal. Let's work on keeping everything fair and balanced. I know these are not nefarious decisions, but we want to maintain the highest quality league
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Release the Kraken! 🦑's trade block has been updated!
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