League Message Board
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Btw, it is the owner of The Fantasy Vibes… I am still here.
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The owner of Tai Hills had to leave the league. He was already a new owner, but felt he couldn't dedicate himself to the league. If you know anyone that would like to join our merry bunch, let me know. I'll probably give it until Thanksgiving before I open it up "to the wolves" of the Ottoneu community.
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Don't forget: Arbitration ends on Nov 14. A little over a week to make someone's day special!
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Happy Arbitration Season! Be gentle.
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The owner of "Horrible Team" has requested that I abandon his team. I will give everyone the week to give me a new owner for the team. If no one takes the team, I will open it up for the Ottoneu masses.
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Congrats on the win Shot. What team is available? On a side note, we were really close to qualifying for the badge when every team in a league scores about 15,000 - that's impressive. I've got a friend in Asia who might join, but because he's in Asia, I would need to pay for him. Is that okay?
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FYI-We are in need of at least 1 new owner for 2025 season. If you know of someone in need of a obsessive fantasy baseball experience, let me know in the next week or so. If not, I will abandon the team and open it to the Ottoneu public to fill.
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If you intend on leaving the league, please let me know. I'd prefer to find replacements well BEFORE arbitration season begins. Thanks for all your efforts. The difference between 1st and last isn't that great-sign of a good league IMHO.
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Thanks. I had a solid 300 point day that pushed me ahead. Just enough innings left to keep it stable. Happy to have a Championship.
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Awesome season, I had lots of fun! Thanks to everyone that was open to trading with me, and congrats to Shot and Rollie! I feel most teams have made moves to improved in different ways, so I am already looking forward to offseason and next year as I see new challengers arising.
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Congrats Shot for turning on the gas this past month and tying a bow on the season. There was a moment this was close... and then it wasn't. Congrats to Tals for catching Vibes for third.
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Thanks. And I left Eovaldi on the bench with a supposed "bad matchup" vs. Yankees. Good day though. I was risking a lot of innings to get a big day-worked out.
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A 300+ point day?! Come on, give the rest of us a chance!
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ok, thanks. I will try to find it.
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Yeah, it's an issue with missing fangraphs data over the last few days. It's supposedly almost fixed. There an ottoneu community post about it.
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Anyone noticed that the games projection went down by about 5-7 games today? I had most of my infield position at 162 games projected last night, today 155-157.
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Loved that trade - Yordan for Tucker! Win Win! Congrats!
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Nah, I just hate being late. Consider this fire sale to be the fantasy baseball equivalent of showing up to work 15 minutes early.
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Did we all forget that the Ottoneu trade deadline isn't the same date as the MLB deadline?
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Brian’s just internet trolling-it’s his day job now.
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Which side?
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Shady as
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You guys might want to chalk the vetoes up to being on the internet. Some people veto for the love of the game.
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FWIW if anyone IS interested in getting fleeced, slide into my DMs
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Well, please acept my appologies for not understanding and having the wrong opinion. I am available for DM if you feel like continuing the conversation.
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Ok. We’ve all had a voice in this thing. A few laughs a couple of tears. I think we can move on and see how I can win this league.
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You're missing the point. There's nothing to 'applaud' me for. I didn't 'pull' a trade. This trade essentially shifts forward the value of my roster, and shifts his back. It's no different than when teams who are out of contention trade currently healthy players for guys on the IL. Just because you didn't understand it doesn't mean it should be vetoed. And I'm not taking anything personally. I am concerned I'm in a league where people veto trades they don't like just because they dislike them
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I have not even completed my first season in Ottoneau, and I am having a lot of fun, and the last thing I would like if for you to feel like you have to leave.
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Again, do not take it personally, and it looks like I am completely wrong questioning the trade and how it could affect the league, so please accept my apologies if you feel like I was advocating for vetos. My questions was if I was missing something, because in my mind this was an easy vetoed trade, but again, looks like other factors like collusion are what triggers a veto.
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In my opinion, the way the trade was structured affects the whole league, and again, in my opinion, it affects negatively beer pong as he could have been in a better position to make future moves after this trade. I like to compete, and would like every team to be in it and use strategies, work around roster and budget restrictions, and have fun at it.
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As I said before, if I am mistaken, like it appears to be, please disregard! However, it is hard to understand playing a game not to compete or try to win, specially a streaky game like baseball where patience, planing, and some predicting can make big difference in a long season. Second, no-one is asking to veto the trade. I simply questioned it. I applaud you for pulling such trade, and you are tacking the questioning of the trade personal, which you should not.
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Regardless, the trade makes plenty of sense. You don't have to love it. There are lots of trades in lots of leagues I don't love for both sides. That's how trades work - different managers value players and their spot on their roster and rebuilding timeline differently. Doesn't mean they should get vetoed. In fact, the fact that 2 people vetoed a perfectly reasonable trade - and you have one guy outwardly advocating for vetos makes me wonder if this is a league I want to stay in.
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JBPM ostensibly bought the future value of the player from me for a one year loan. I likely wouldn't trade Paredes for Freeman at their salaries straight up. I recovered some value in a borderline keepable player in Arozarena, and gave up a prospect to boot. You may not like Vargas or his shot at a roster spot, but we've seen that guys like Busch that get moved can be productive. That's why I added him to begin with.
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To say 'people should be playing for the top 6 still' is a completely subjective and personal decision, and to veto and ask other people to veto because someone else is managing and valuing their team differently is pretty ridiculous. And that assumes an unbalanced trade, which this is not. As noted, Freeman at his salary is less valuable than you may assume. As for the salary, why would I agree to trade a similarly performing player with multi positional versatility for the same guy at 1b?
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Look at the team names, likely the same guy. Boot both team to be safe
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We should all have reasons to veto trades. 2 thought it should be vetoed. The rest of us either thought 1-fine. Whatever OR 2-they simply ignored it (which is the same as '1'). Any other discussion of the trade should be a general discussion of value. Just because I wouldn't have done the trade myself doesn't invalidate it. And FWIW, I believe major Ottoneu trades like this need to be made in June to be effective.
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btw, when I say 12 out of 12, I mean in Tooth Gap’s position of receiving the player and getting their salaries paid for 3/4 of the season.
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Other issue would be the posible extra 6 WAR that is being covered by loaning $71 for the two players. It was made too easy for Tooth Gap since salaries were taken care, no cuts, not restructuring, easy peasy. If it was half season and multiple injuries, or after 3/4 of season and restructuring for next year, I would have been fine. But I am here for fun as many of you, so if I am mistaken, please disregard.
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This is what I see. Probably 12 out of 12 would have pulled this trade, meaning lopsided if that is the case, but my main issue is timing. We just completed 1/4 of the season and everyone should still be playing for a top 6 finish, and working around your stars, which Beer Pong had at multiple positions (1b, 2b, multiple SS, and multiple OF). Arozarena was bad all year, but since May 1st he had 5 HR in 15 days (time of the trade) and is starting to look like himself.
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I paused seeing the trade as 20% of budget moving is pause-worthy. Collusion is my rule of thumb too and I have no reason to think that happened, despite these two sharing a curious fondness for Aaron Judge. Should Freeman have returned more? My gut says "yes." Consensus from recent trades for him says "no." Should Pong have dropped Arozarena, kept the cash, and picked up any similar prospect off waivers? Yes, but maybe he foolishly thinks Vargas will be the one young player
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It's not even clear to me which side of the trade would've motivated anyone, much less 2 people, to veto the trade.
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For whatever it's worth my rule of thumb when it comes to vetoes is only to veto when there is either collusion (which there was not) or an absolutely egregious imbalance of talent. Not that I have to defend the merits of the trade from either side, but I gave up a >6 point per game player with multi position eligibility owned for $8 for a >6 point per game player for over $50 which will likely be a cut at the end of the season and a decent prospect for what I hope is a rebound pla
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Come on guys! 2 people vetoed that trade and 9 did not respond!? Am i missing something? This trade is not healthy for our league and should have been vetoed. 3/4 of season left!
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Glorious madness!!!!
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This is madness
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Ugh. The Angels couldn't have announced Trout's knee surgery a little earlier so I could have gotten in on the Vlad Jr lottery too?!
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Can someone with enough payroll and not biding on Guerrero, send me a DM? Thanks!
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NOTE: Black Balls cut the wrong Lowe. As result, I placed Nathanial Lowe back on his team. Please see me with any questions/concerns.
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Just to be clear: MLB regular season begins Wednesday morning with the Dodgers-Padres series. Make sure that 1. your rosters are legal and 2. your rosters are set with anyone you wish to play in those games. Good luck.
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Will 2024 be the year Lance McCullers throws a pitch?
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