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Confirmed- Homer said it perfectly
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Agreed with El Ocho. It accounts for loans. e.g. Mythical, you don't have to cut $114 worth of players before the deadline, but if you acquire anyone putting you over your current $514 cap and 41 player limit, you need to make a corresponding cut to get within your current limits (not the $400/40 that applies in the offseason)
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To my understanding end of season roster must be legal, i.e. including loans, 60DL, etc.
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Commish, Pls clarify: End of Season roster must be equal/under 40/$400 with NO CONSIDERATION of LOANS or 60 day DLs. Thank you.
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Oh, and please send all correspondence regarding my disappointing season care of Michael Conforto.
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Looks like it's going down to the wire-- should be an exciting weekend, for three of us at least. Thanks for notifying K/9-- best of luck to your future endeavors. If anyone else is going to be leaving the league, please say so.
Just a reminder of our 2 offseason house rules:
1. Your team must be in roster compliance at the close of the season (can't ride into offseason with extra players/salary)
2. You must pay for upcoming season before any roster moves/trades (OK to do Arb
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I will not be back next year. Good luck everyone. Thanks.
👹 Wendigos 👹 on
September 24, 2021 10:34 AM
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wander is mashing at AAA and coming soon-- he's available if anyone wants to sell me some MLB starpower, prefer SS/SP help
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I see you going up 50.6. Whatever it was May have corrected itself
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Commish: My May 3 change indicates I went up 28.9 points. Yet, when you look at my totals on the "Today's Stats" page, I should be up 50.60. What am I missing here?
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OK, draft day tentatively set for 3/28 6p EST. Please notify ASAP if you can't make it and we need to find another time.
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March 28th is fine with me. A little later than 4pm would be better...like 6pm EST? That would be 11pm Netherlands yeah? The clocks change in the US on 14th. I'm in Asia too.
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looks like there's some momentum for Sunday March 28th... europe wants earlier, asia wants later... can we compromise and do a 4pm EST start?
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Either March 27/28 work for me as well
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I am in Asia. I could do the 28th, after 6:30pm EST. Also have some availability the week before, 21st-24th, most often after 6-7pm EST.
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I'm still in the Netherlands, so Europe in the house! I already have a draft in another league the 27th at 6PM EST, so the 27th or the 28th in the early afternoon (2 PM?) EST would be great for me.
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27th or 28th are fine with me, but if it is the 28th I wouldn’t be available until 1pm EST
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March 27/28 and all other dates/times work for me, except March 10/11 and after March 28
Alien Alliance on
February 15, 2021 12:34 PM
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looks like the season will be starting on time, April 1st... we should probably have a draft before then, eh? what are the timing restrictions again? Do we still have people in Europe and Asia (as well as North America)? making one convenient time of day impossible? If we did Sat/Sun March 27 or 28 would something like noon EST work for everyone?
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Welcome Maybe! Getting in just under the wire, glad to have you
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Hey y'all, just took over Curacao Gazelles and I'll be looking to go from worst to first. Looking forward to the season!
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keeper deadline sunday night, make sure you get your cuts in.... and if anyone knows anyone who wants to pick up gazelles, or if you want to post the opening, please do.. would love to get an owner by the deadline
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Agree - probably time to abandon the team and get a replacement before the keeper deadline.
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Don’t know them and agree with the others
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I think 4+ months is a more than reasonable amount of time to expect somebody to respond. I'd consider the team abandoned.
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The time of courtesy and reasonableness for Curacao Gazelles long expired. I considered the team abandoned, and should be posted as No Owner, and new ownership advertised/sought. Aside, may I wish all a prosperous and healthy 2021.
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As some of you may have noticed, Curacao Gazelles haven't arb'd paid dues or even logged in since august. I've got a few messages out to them (thru site and thru personal email). Does anyone know them personally and can reach out? What's a reasonable amount of time to expect to respond to an email before we abandon the team?
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OK, the votes are in and Legal End of Season Rosters has won in a landslide! (actually, didn't vote/don't care won... but those who voted say keep it legal) That makes our 2nd league-specific rule, in addition to paying dues for upcoming season BEFORE making any offseason transactions. Which reminds me-- now would be a great time to get your 2021 dues in because the hot stove is warming up!
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OK, didn't get a whole lot of votes, but so far-- legal at end of season is in the lead. Let's give till Sunday night for last votes, then whatever side is in the lead wins. Also, good job with everyone who's done their ARBs. If you're like me, and you haven't yet, you've got 7 days left!
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Yes
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Aye
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OK, since no other comments, let's vote on the 'must have legal roster at season close rule' I think simple majority rule should work for this one....
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Ok-- anyone else want to weigh in, or adjust the proposal? Let's give another day or 2 for comment, then put it up to a vote...
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Yeah, that’s sensible
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I think that on non-compliance the commissioner should not nullify acquisitions, but force cuts of the last acquisitions (including penalties) until the roster is valid. If not, I can still bid $100 on any auction in the last days to block others from acquiring players without consequences.
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I don't know if we need a precisely worded rule, just a confirmation that all rosters must be legal at the end of the final day of the season. "Legal" being within the player limit and salary limit (including any loans made or received) for that roster. Any violators will be notified and given an opportunity (let's say 5 days?) to bring their roster into compliance. After that point, the commissioner may nullify prior acquisitions until the roster is legal.
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ok, so not quite a unanimous vote to retroactively fix how we ended the offseason... so I think we should leave rosters as they are. would anyone like to come up with some language to propose our future rule? Is it that we need to be in compliance at the close of the season, or every day of the regular season? As co-commish, I have to admit I'm not sure I'm going to be able to check everyone's roster daily and punish those who haven't made a quick enough drop...
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This is my first offseason playing Ottoneu. I'm not too familiar with all its workings, but I feel all teams should be on even ground with having a valid roster on the last day of the season. I'm not too sure what the current situation is, but could see how it could lead to teams stashing extra players heading into the offseason. So I guess I'd vote, yes. But for this weird season, I'm not too worried about it.
👹 Wendigos 👹 on
October 20, 2020 12:25 PM
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no aggressions here, btw. It's a great league and I don't take disagreements on rules as any personal affront
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OK, last call for votes, I'd like to get this settled soon so we can take out our aggressions on the arbitration field
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And btw, I’m just straight dropping arenado if that’s going to be the new rule. I’m not making other cuts, because the bid was only predicated on the old rule that was in existence
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I'm not creating confusion. The rule in existence was keep a valid roster or else your team cannot make any further lineup changes, bids, start auctions, etc. That's what happened and now you want to change it, which is fine, but if you want to do that, you have to deal with the other logical consequences
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I understand that it is in your best interest to create as much confusion as possible, but this is really quite simple. The rule is to have a valid roster during the season. You won the auction, so you need to make cuts until your roster would have been valid at 23:59 the last day of the season. This works perfectly in other leagues. If somebody can't/won't make these cuts, the commish cuts the last additions until a roster would be valid. No invalidations, but cuts.
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Not to mention what are we deciding on as a vote winner? Cause we’re only at 3-2 on votes so far and it strikes me that 3 votes out of 12 should not be sufficient to change a league rule (ESPECIALLY retroactively)
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And if they do have to make further roster moves, do we all get a chance to try to pick up their cuts as we would have been able to do at the end of the season? How far down the line would we take this? This is why changing the rules retroactively is ridiculous
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Additionally, how far would we go back to unwind a transaction? If my pickup of arenado is invalidated, does he just go to free agency? Or is he awarded to the second highest bidder (la fin du monde, in this case) for their bid? If the second bidder gets him, they would have been over the cap so do they have to make further roster moves to get their roster where it would have been legal at the end of the season?
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A couple other rabbit hole questions here. Since this is targeted at myself and two other teams. Don’t other rosters also have to get “legal? Because all 3 of the teams voting yes are further over the cap than I am right this second
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Yes
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Yes
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