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Well, we messaged back & forth. I live in Tampa, he's nearby. We both liked the Rays & one thing lead to another. I mean, I literally just saw him before his daughter was born last month. Even if we go by the assumption that we did this maliciously, you can't say you couldn't do this in the past, obviously you could. It's not like this was some large elaborate con. I guess I can see the perception but then, I would just cover my tracks better. This was easy so, yeah.
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So a random stranger you met on the internet had his credit card hacked. So you volunteered to give him your PayPal info to renew his account?
Or you’re able to renew his account on your own, or how does that work? I’ve played with both of you since 2016ish, I’d like to believe that our battles over the years were legitimate.
But something about all of this seems off to me. If y’all were friends before this, that would make sense. I’ve never offered a stranger on the internet $20 t
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That sounds plausible, except that in his forum post about this change, the creator of Ottoneu said as the very first sentence: "In the past, we have actively blocked users from paying for more than one team in a single Ottoneu Fantasy Sports league." So you wouldn't have even been able to do this in the past as you're claiming...???
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I'll text him to respond on here.
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Well, we've known each other since we met back in... I want to say, Double-A? I think, his credit card got hacked at the time. So, since then, I've just let him use my PayPal since he doesn't have one. Never really thought much of it, I'd pay for it & he'd pay me back. We're friends now. But, I can appreciate how it looks so, if you need to dismiss us both, or for one of us to leave for the look of it, I get that. But yeah, that's it.
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PM has been on today and DM'd me just now (in response to me asking if he's gonna address this): "I hadn't been paying attention so, I'll just go on now" make of that what you will, I hope it doesn't mean he's slinking off without an explanation.
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Would be easier to not jump to conclusions if this allegation was new, but it's not. Happy to allow time for an explanation, but also think a deadline for that is in order in case the response is radio silence. We can only extend the teams' cut deadline for so long.
TTBNL on
January 25, 2023 6:03 PM
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I want to be clear: there is no rush to jump to a conclusion or decision here, and I've far from made up my mind at all. Plenty of time to hear out all sides. The Monday deadline is still there for all of us, but we absolutely should not rush to make any decision without giving ample opportunity to explain the situation.
Ottoneu added this feature for a reason (both for legitimate ways folks can participate and pay their share, but also to be fully transparent about it and avoid 2n
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If there are any major changes to be made to the league or any individual owners/teams, it will not be a fast process and that wouldn't be fair to anybody involved (including any potential new owner). Mod powers are fairly vast, and in the past we have been able to give folks the opportunity to make cuts without affecting their cap for late arrivals (or late relegation/promotion as the cases were).
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After chatting with Sandy about this, we are in agreement that there's definitely some answers that need to be had. The reason Ottoneu added that was to allow for folks to pay and participate without pay pal, but it does open up to some bigtime questions.
I would love to hear from both Free Agent Fodder and PM to explain what the situation is to the group. If we are unsatisfied with the answers, we can hold a vote to dismiss both. Both teams should give us an answer before making cu
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SHAME SHAME SHAME
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Also, I’ve reviewed DM’s I’ve had with both PM and FAF. Both use the same style of writing and punctuation.. EXACT SAME.
I’m not trying to jump to any conclusions or tin foil hat status. But if I had to guess based on the evidence, I’d say they were the same person.
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If one person is paying for both teams, something should’ve been said ahead of time. It seems very shady that it wasn’t, especially by a commissioner.
Personally, regardless of whatever the reasons are I feel that it shouldn’t be allowed. It creates an opportunity for people to cheat, even if it is started harmlessly.
This should be addressed immediately and some type of explanation offered by those involved.
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Well. I'm willing to hear FAF/PM out, but this is not a good look. Apparently this is a brand-new change for transparency; previously you couldn't pay for 2 teams to block cheating, so...yikes: https://community.ottoneu.com/t/allowing-users-to-pay-for-more-than-one-team-in-20-tier-leagues/12474
And that's on top of all the other weird trades and auctions over the years. Y'all got something to say about why one paypal is paying for both your teams?
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im sure its just a coincidence or they are married and share a paypal acct
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If someone is doing that, they should be removed from the league imo.
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Well if you select the faf team roster it will state that the user has also paid for another team in the league. Not suspicious at all
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why are we doing this again
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i paid for 1 team in this league
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Quick informal poll. Raise your hand if you are managing multiple teams in this league. Anybody? Anybody at all?
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no place for wife beaters on my team byebye clevinger seeya NEVER
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Don't forget to pay your dues for those who have not done so yet. It's kind of a pain that they immediately give your team to somebody else if you miss the deadline, and you probably don't want to go through that.
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iso outfielders
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You should start by changing your team name so it's not so on the nose
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Happy to be taking over for JT and joining the league. First time doing ottoneu so will need a little time to adjust and learn the perameters but exited for the challenge.
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Alrighty, thanks everybody for throwing hats in the ring. I think Boomer has a solid point that we could keep it rotating season by season, so that's certainly something we could do in 2024. But as of 2023: If there are no objections, I'll make PM the co-comish!
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Cool with me, good luck on another great season, everyone
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I’m also cool with PM being co-commish!
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I'm cool with PM commishing
TTBNL on
November 17, 2022 2:26 PM
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Also when I was co-commish JT also didn't do shit that year either so unless Darby/Ian will be more attentive, it is kind of just a solo job.
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I did it in 2021 and it should definitely be a rotating thing, it's a good way to make sure you know the rules and can behave ethically. If we don't feel someone should do it for a year they shouldn't be in the league at all. So I support PM doing it for 2023.
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I'm more than happy to volunteer to be co-commish.
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I'd prefer I wasn't the LM when I go on this run of five straight ships.
MakeitRayn on
November 17, 2022 12:44 AM
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I nominate MakeItRayn can I get a second?
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Hello all! Apologies for being absent since the season ended. Life and real work got nuts, and I just didn't make time for the league. Obviously a lot of changes happened, so I'll go through them here quickly:
JT's team (Late to the Party) has a new owner. Welcome!
As JT is now gone, we do need a new co-comish. There's a lot of needs for a single person, and I don't want to leave folks high and dry again.
So: I'm asking for volunteers to step up to be considered
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who is new co commish?
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Here's a reliable person who can take over the team: delmon3333@yahoo.com
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Much as I loved being nearly guaranteed to not finish last, it's way more fun having 100% participation. Surely someone from the second tier whenever the league was last active would love to jump in.
TTBNL on
November 14, 2022 2:02 PM
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I agree with all the others, something temporary such as an arb filler as Rayn said for now.
And on the long term, a new owner for that team should be found pretty quickly. And I’m not sure if a second commissioner is a mainstay or not. Or how that process even works. An explanation of how this has has transpired in past seasons would be cool.
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We should at least find an arb filler. Would give us more time to find a new owner.
MakeitRayn on
November 14, 2022 1:16 PM
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I agree with the good doctor. Let's get someone to take that team over before the deadline passes.
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Arb deadline day and nothing from JT, who stopped playing mid last year. Darby you should have gotten another manger in here as soon as the season ended. Honestly still should even if they don't get to do arb.
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$4 combined to Alex Cobb and Yandy Díaz for the league-winning team. Guessing some folks want to see a repeat.
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I’ll check with JT.
For Boomer’s question: I’m pretty sure the Triple-A was dead/defunct last year. I’ll double check but I haven’t heard of anybody being promoted.
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Is late to the party even playing?
MakeitRayn on
October 25, 2022 1:19 AM
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Is any promotion/relegation gonna happen before the arb deadline?
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Yea not many teams selling at the deadline this year.
MakeitRayn on
October 11, 2022 3:01 PM
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Personally I preferred last yaer
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The gap between 1st and 2nd last year was about the same as the gap between 1st and 11th this year.
TTBNL on
October 10, 2022 2:54 PM
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this seemed like a really close league
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