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Don't take advice about kids from people whose only experience is reading about it in a book.
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24 hours sounds great. If someone is going to object it'll probably be right away. Not that anyone ever votes for/against trades here anyway.
TTBNL on
February 1, 2023 5:55 PM
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Happy with the change to 24 hour for trade processing. Congrats on the baby!
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Congrats Brutha
Sveet on
February 1, 2023 4:59 PM
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all newborns do is sleep and nurse, it's not an excuse
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rathr do this soon as possible...baby due last week of march
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I'm good with 24 hours. In the real world trades process instantly.
Sveet on
February 1, 2023 4:33 PM
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VOTE: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bk2XY1Xa
Doodle poll for the Auction Dates is live. The date range is between Thursday March 16th (2 weeks before Opening Day) until Sunday the 26th. I'd like this draft to be all done with a few days before Opening Day for any trades/waivers to shuffle around.
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New changes: Couldn't find a way in Commish tools to process trades immediately, but I did change the process time from 48 hours to 24 hours (so all trades will process by today). Unless anybody else is opposed, I'm going to keep it at 24 hours. As Commish we could also cancel trades or undo trades if there is significant outcry or actual disapproval of a trade, but for 99.9% of trades the approval/disapproval process has been a formality. If we are opposed, we can change it back before season.
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Disregard the Draft Date bar, I'll get a Doodle out today so we can have time to vote and find a date and time that will work for most if not all.
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Sveet on
February 1, 2023 10:21 AM
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+1 for that
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Also can we go ahead and process all these trades unless someone has a complaint?
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So let's schedule this draft fellas. Can one of the commishes set up a doodle for the ~10 days before the season starts on 3/30?
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Welcum David
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Welcome to the league David! I’m honored to be a co-commissioner in this league. This league is established, and the owners are very passionate. I’m more than happy to assist in any way that I can. And truly, it’s an honor (even if by default lol) to be co-commish.
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welcome henry as new commish, dont fck up
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Also, the 2nd place team from last year Henry Rowengartner has gracious stepped up to the plate to help as Co-Comish. He volunteered a few months ago, and then we voted in PM, and now that he's gone and Henry Rowengartner is willing and able to assist, he has earned the additional volunteer duties. Next offseason we can vote for new or remaining co-comish
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Alright, we are now all set: welcome new owner of team formerly known as Prospect Manipulator - David! Because David is subbing in for us so late I'm extending the deadline for him to make his keeper cuts by a week.
For everybody else, keeper deadline is tomorrow evening so make sure your team is set for your keepers!
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Who is Caitlin
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So, I like you guys but, I'm sitting here with Caitlin & she's right, this doesn't make sense. Jay was one of the biggest draws for me to be in this league. Even if I had the right intentions, I'd be wary of me too.
So, I'll refund Ian on Venmo, my team is paid for the year. Find it a good home. I'd rather you guys think I'm a cheater than become like Sandy, wishing death on people. Got enough stuff on my mind right now
https://www.gofundme.com/f/donate-to-help-caitlin
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I have been in this league since day one and have never gotten my yearly dues repaid. No big deal, just saying.
Coming Down on
January 28, 2023 12:02 PM
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never got a dime from DRB nor do i wanttheir blood money
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Thanks DRB for paying my ottoneu fee even after my account(s) got banned. Fuck Vox, and fuck that looser Steven Goldman. Birdwatchers Anonymous foreva
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Speaking with Ian, he wanted to pass along a message about dues:
“They can email me for a reimbursement if they want at imalino@gmail.com, but that I'm cutting the league loose (kids, no time to manage, SBN cut our budget) and this is the last year I'll do that”
The league can/will continue after this year, but as more a normal Otto league, no reimbursement from DRB (forever and always, respectfully: fuck Vox)
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Thank you! Also, sorry for rejecting all the trade offers so far everyone; I still need some time to determine the value of what I inherited and I'll need to sit with it for a bit
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Welcome to the league Ben!
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Thank you! Looking forward to figuring all this stuff out - it seems fun. I haven't played in any fantasy baseball leagues since the Kelly Shoppach era with the Rays
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I want to welcome to the league Ben Whitelaw to take over Free Agent Fodder. You may know Ben from RBLR Sports and his twitter analysis (and current Rays trivia contest). Welcome, Ben, to our merry band of misfits!
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A but only because I’m feeling generous
Sveet on
January 26, 2023 8:01 PM
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As far as FAF, looks like he was halfway out the door anyway. So that works out well.
PM, I still am not sure what to believe. Not convinced you two aren’t the same person still. In fact, I’d still say there’s more evidence that says you are the same.
I want to vote “A” to let you defend your “title” because you def only have 1 team now. My brain and my heart tell me there was some wrongdoings, so I must vote B.
There’s just too much evidence for me to over look. I VOTE B
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a
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B
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This has been some weird shit. I'm not into cancelling but we can't allow cheating, so I'll go with whatever the group decides. As for paying dues they can be paid by checking account, credit card etc etc. not just pay pal.
Coming Down on
January 26, 2023 12:17 PM
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A. This still seems super sketch to me, but I don't see how the debate over what happened is going to be resolved definitively. One ownership change solves the core issue. Good enough.
TTBNL on
January 26, 2023 11:53 AM
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A - even if FAF was a sock puppet, which seems like he wasn't, PM wouldn't have any advantage anymore with FAF leaving. Given what I know now I don't think there's enough evidence that we should ban FAF but seems like he's leaving on his own, which I also get. PM is welcome to stay by me, especially for the drama it'll bring to his title defense this season.
But yeah if we need to replace FAF let's get daev on in here today.
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I’ll move quickly to find a replacement owner for FAF and should be in place before the weekend.
As for PM, there’s enough smoke and distrust to have a new co-commish (if anyone would like to volunteer, raise their hands now). I’d also like to get a poll of the group now that FAF is removed, since I’m newer than most to this group and will not be ruling as a tyrant: you can either publicly post or privately DM me your vote
A) Keep PM/Dylan
B) Remove and replace PM
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At minimum they should be banned from trading with each other if they remain in league.
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I'm satisfied, mainly because Niv clarified to me in an email that it was indeed possible to pay an account with one Paypal previously, and *only* stopped being possible briefly in mid-2022 before coming back this offseason with the new team page flag. I've also made an IRL friend through this group of weirdos so I get that, but I still don't understand why you FAF don't have your own Paypal account. And from the league's perspective you can see the confusion it caused given the past accusations
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Sorry baby duty most of the night. It ain't deep. It was convenient for me to hand DC 20 bucks and play. Was debating renewing already so I'll let the team expire. It's in a good place. The record shows 5th, 7th, 5th, 2nd the last 4 years though. Every single year placed higher than Sandy. Competed to win I did not tank like he did. It is maddening how much drama he stirs up. DC we'll coordinate for Spring Training. Everyone else if in the future you want me back let me know - Jay Grant
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FAF gonna chime in?
TTBNL on
January 26, 2023 9:43 AM
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Both need to be removed. To act this unethically for this many years signals they have no business in society, let alone this league. In 2023 stop letting bad people gaslight you into giving them what they want. There are so many more deserving people out there who have not been stealing your trust and good time for many years now. Easy call.
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Just put FAF as co manager of PM's team. Call up some scrub from AAA.
MakeitRayn on
January 25, 2023 10:41 PM
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I agree with Sveet, Sandy, and Kierboomer. With the evidence presented, smoke BEFORE this, I feel that the league has been compromised. I hate to say that. I was happy to congratulate PM when he won last season even as it was obviously painful for me to lose by 20 points. I’m not saying take the championship away or anything, but moving forward I’d like to see something done to make me feel like I’m not playing against a 80 man roster and $800 salary. Sorry PM if you are playing fair.
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At a minimum at least one should be moved to a different league
Sveet on
January 25, 2023 9:50 PM
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My 2 cents.
It’s been an inside joke with other owners that PM and FAF were run by a single person before the payment thing came to light. They would routinely trade with each other, they would send messages at similar times, propose trades at similar times, target similar players, reject trades at the same time. Like one person logging in and checking both teams one after the other. Any of these things on their own don’t really amount to much, but there was smoke before this payment thing
Sveet on
January 25, 2023 9:48 PM
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Again, it seems like a reasonable explanation and I feel bad if it's really what happened/is happening. But commish, I don't think you're correct. You keep saying using alt emails, that's fine. But the forum post says, quote, "We are now allowing PayPal users to pay for more than one team". So unless PM has multiple PayPal accounts...who the hell has multiple PayPal accounts? And why would he randomly have stopped using multiple accounts this year when the policy was changed?
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https://youtu.be/K4Fvsgv0bYw Been done. Let's get some new folks in here before the trade deadline
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In the past you have definitely been able to pay for multiple teams. Ian did it in the past (with obvious alt emails as placeholders when waiting for new owners to take over teams/relagation etc). The Ottoneu guy was saying that’s not something they’ve allowed two people actively running two teams in the same league, but it’s always been possible to do just with different emails.
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