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Yea we have no attendance drain. I wish there was an incentive to finish as high as possible. Right now, there's not - I'm only incentivized at this point to be in last.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 16, 2014 2:13 PM
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In MLB you get the first draft pick by coming in last in the standings, but the drain on attendance and revenue is something teams have to weigh as well.
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I have always thought we should have some sort of small incentive (or punishment) for teams not to come in last place, but I may be in the minority on that. I think the waiver priority ranking makes sense though as is.
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Was burned several times last year by being in 11th instead of 12th
Caimans 🐊 on
July 16, 2014 1:46 PM
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I'm balancing trying to get points with trying to stay in basement - if I had to field an empty lineup to do so though I would.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 16, 2014 1:45 PM
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No reason to field any player in your active lineup if you know you're not competing for this season
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that is very smart
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The price of success - not gonna lie I've deliberately played bad matchups and left pitchers on the bench this season to stay at bottom of standings, not that I definitely needed the help. It's a dumb rule.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 16, 2014 1:02 PM
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I wonder how many auctions I've lost this year because of the standings tiebreaker. I bet it's at least six or eight.
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Perfect Pitch, Inc.'s trade block has been updated!
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I confess to looking into buying one of the ASG hats, and they cost just about as much as an authentic jersey.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 15, 2014 10:58 PM
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#RE2PECT T-shirt AND an authentic player jersey?
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I call for a vote for the league winner to get a #RE2PECT tshirt instead of an authentic player jersey.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 15, 2014 10:41 PM
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LUUUUUUUUUUUUC.......
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 15, 2014 9:40 PM
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Two of my three highest-paid players were drafted in June. 2017 title run begins now.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 15, 2014 5:51 PM
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Enrico Palazzo's trade block has been updated!
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Durham Tobacconists's trade block has been updated!
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Shocked Syndicate didn't even bid on Peraza
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Reasoning: Money currently a non factor. Rodon could emerge as a clear drop, a clear keep, or a trade chip. But while that's sorting out... I'm the one who owns the most mlb ready prospect in the draft. Zero risk that I can perceive.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 15, 2014 2:04 PM
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If I wanted Rodon for $20 I would've bid on him at $20, but I bid at $15. I do see why he's see value at $20, and I can see scenarios where I'd be willing to trade for him in offseason or early next season.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 2:04 PM
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It sounds like Jed already has at least one buyer for Rodon right now.
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Rodon only has trade value if one team believes there's a greater chance he can exceed $20 in value than the risk that he cannot. Just saying that right now I am not that team, but plenty of owners value players, risk/reward differently.
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but who's to say you don't end up dealing Rodon for one of those guys, or someone better? Those guys also usually don't become available auction BECAUSE of their prices. Rodon has value as a trade chip even if he doesn't perform at those levels soon.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:45 PM
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Here are the average values: https://db.tt/4hMAAMVU
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That's a false choice: it's not Rodon or $20; it's Rodon or J. Zimmermann, Gio, Shields, Lester, Anibal, or Weaver - all SP's whose avg price in Ottoneu is < $20. Those guys contribute to a title chase more than Rodon.
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What's more valuable until next season's auction - a $20 Rodon or $20 in cap space?
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:28 PM
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With so many non-contending teams (as many as 10 in this league right now) value of prospects bound to go up, they are hard to acquire when only two teams contending.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:27 PM
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Saying its worth it to hold Rodon till July to see if he brings enough value to offset his $20 price assumes you could know you're out of it already next July. That $20 has more value than "what could be"
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I'd love to have Buxton and Bryant for $7 right now, but certainly happy to have them at their current prices too.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:26 PM
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Sure, everyone would love to get these guys at < $10, but it only takes two guys who value more to push price up.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:25 PM
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And that doesn't have value?
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:25 PM
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The best evidence is when those players have been moved for MLB contributors
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I like to think the level of prospect knowledge and general fantasy baseball ability higher here than in many of the other leagues.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:24 PM
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I guess I just don't see a lot of evidence where that type of inflation has paid off for a team contending. And no one should be playing for three years out, I hope...
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And in many cases those teams have been rewarded anyway here.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:23 PM
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Rodon can likely fetch more than $20 of value then.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:23 PM
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The average prices in Ottoneu right now for Appel, Buxton, Bryant, and Rendon are $6, $7, $7, and $9. We have always tended to pay a premium for prospects in this league.
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Why is he too risky to hold at $18 now to see if he excels quickly? Even if not, Rodon certainly does bring value at $20 - maybe every team enters 2015 as a contender, but certainly by June or even May 2 to 6 teams will have decided to sell. Rodon can lik
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:22 PM
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I guess I'm assuming every team in the league right now wants to enter 2015 as a possible contender. Rodon doesn't bring value to that strategy (at $20). Too risky to hold. Who is playing for 2016 right now?
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that's funny
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:18 PM
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and kept at $41 the following year
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:18 PM
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Last year there was a league with a guy who auctioned all the top 25 draftees at once and bid $100 on all of them, so that they would go into the auction the following season
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It happens. Who's to say Rodon doesn't take a Price or Sale like trajectory. If you aren't competing, I don't see why you wouldn't take that chance. And Matt Moore would've been kept at $20 - instead he was auctioned for $39(!)
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:16 PM
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Your expectations for Rodon are much higher than mine. Matt Moore is now cheaper than Rodon and unowned...
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I agree there, I thought EP should've dealt him to go for it this year. If he is planning more for 2015 than he was 2014 though, maybe good move to keep him.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:11 PM
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If Rodon makes CWS bullpen by end of year and has a Price or Moore like impact there, good luck getting him for $20 next season as he's moved to rotation. Didn't we see that with Matt Moore already?
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:10 PM
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Taveras clearly has value and I'm not arguing otherwise. He hasn't brought active value to his owner during his window to win though. There's a difference. EP was clearly a front runner to win this off season.
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Prices aren't always more reasonable at auction, especially when there are multiple non-competing teams. Prospects went somewhat lower early because everyone thought they were competing.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:09 PM
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If Rodon is producing at $20 next season great! If not, if you aren't competing yet, hold him. If you are, he can likely be dealt for someone producing in excess of that $20 in value.
Caimans 🐊 on
July 15, 2014 1:08 PM
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that is an interesting strategy on Rodon by Durham, no I'm bummed you got outbid for him
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