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Uh oh. Tulo just pulled up on his way to first.
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It would've been a fun roster to watch if 80% of it hadn't hit the DL in April/May.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 19, 2014 8:47 AM
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I guess there is some virtue to calling it quits before you are 100% positive it's the right thing to do, in terms of getting a more active market for your guys. But man...
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 19, 2014 8:44 AM
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I'm beginning to wonder whether I called it quits too early. I needed to make up a full P/IP, so that was probably unrealistic even with Kershaw. But the studs I've traded are all on fire right now.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 19, 2014 8:43 AM
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That guys been lights out since I ripped him
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At least I've inspired Iwakuma to shed his replacement moniker
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Vintage like a '91 bordeaux?
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Vintage Strasburg tonight.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 18, 2014 11:09 PM
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Quite honestly a big part of it is that they are high ceiling guys who will be fun to track and will keep me engaged the next few months.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 18, 2014 6:56 PM
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I don't think I really follow this argument any more, but all I'll say is that I never said I was going to keep Rodon or Schwarber. So that argument is irrelevant.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 18, 2014 6:55 PM
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CC to have micro-fracture surgery. Season over, possibly career. Bummer. Such a work-horse for years.
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"@YankeesWFAN Yankees haven't had a losing record after the All-Star Break since 1992." Wow...that's impressive.
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I just don't yet see a lot of evidence for this competing strategy to overpay for hope. I'm open to hear it though, and fully prepared to remain in the minority if not.
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Owners assign value in different ways for sure and it's pretty easy after 4 years to see which strategies/tendencies various owners favor. I just favor one that EP doesn't share, which is what makes fantasy baseball fun and competitive.
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"Value", is a factor of many things, including performance, price, and ETA of fantasy contribution. Overpaying for rookie ballers strips them of the primary factor of those three that gives them the best chance at having value.
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But acquiring talent is the same strategy as acquiring future potential...just the other side of the coin. Nothing wrong with it. You can disagree that it is a winning strategy, but you can't disagree there is value in it as that is perceived by each team
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And potential is ambiguous and everyone loves hope, so people will overpay for current production in favor of future production. If they choose to change the strategy or would like to get a bigger for now, then trade to a team who loves potential/hope.
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I think the merit in this overly discussed point here is the same argument you use, Lucky. Talent is talent. There will always be someone looking for MLB-ready biggers to win this season. For the rest, though, they are looking for the next bigger.
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Taken away without my knowledge and I was forced to take over a cellar dweller...2014 wasn't a rebuild year I just didn't win this year. Thankfully I'm not both not winning and forced to rebuild from scratch
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But of course to correct the time lines which are characteristically incorrect, I rejoined the league in jan 2012 after my team was
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What merits? I've yet to hear or see much evidence that keeping 18 y/o prospects at prices clearly above market value is a winning strategy. There are tons of different ways to win in fantasy, I just personally don't believe this is one of the best ways.
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Lol. Attack the messenger when you're wrong on the merits. All good .
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Shots fired!
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EP now has 3-4 years of rebuilding experience (https://db.tt/MbFKWpeV), so it's entirely possible my outlook, strategy, and evaluations are way off on this subject.
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It just doesn't seem worth the risk or wait time if your goal is to compete as soon as possible. I'd rather use that $10 to outbid someone else for Hanley or Tulo if I'm trying to win.
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It still comes down to evaluation - what kind of fantasy player are you expecting Nick Gordon to become to consider keeping him at $9? His peak might be S. Drew, but at $10+ by his debut, he'd have to be Drew right out of the gate.
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There are maybe 4-5 (Cole, JF, Rendon, Springer, Gray) that have had a meaningful impact to the point where they are legitimate players on a contending fantasy team today. That's a lot of risk and wait time for little payoff.
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I just went back to look at the 2011 draft class - 3 years ago - and I count maybe 11 of the top 60 picks that have gotten at least 1 AB or IP in MLB.
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"Your projections of minors to majors are notoriously wrong on the conservative side". Really? You're expecting two high school draftees in Gordon and Jackson to have any meaningful MLB impact before 2017 (let alone even debut)?
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If somehow he would be a huge trade chip at $5, but utterly worthless at $8 or $10 is crazy. There's not a player in the league whose value I would view wildly differently $5 either way
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And, of course, the idea that we can nail value down to the 3rd decimal is crazy. The concept that, for instance, Nick Gordon would be valuable if his price was "reasonable" but since it's "not reasonable", he isn't is laughable really.
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the point that X may score more points in 2015, 2016 or whenever than Y is certainly a factor, but in many cases a very small factor in whether X is more valuable. That argument just makes no sense.
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Alexei Ramirez, Asdrubal Cabrera and Alcides Escobar are all currently FA within about 20-40 points of Rollins, so basically comparable, so clearly you could have them for free (ie don't have to trade), so its obvious what more valuable given the league
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Depending on trajectory, an overpriced prospect in July can be a huge trade chip the following April. Just ask Kris Bryant.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 18, 2014 12:38 PM
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Rollins is more valuable to my team right now. That's obvious. But given that 10 teams are out of contention, Buxton's trade value is probably higher. But who knows. A player's trade value is only what another team is willing to pay for him.
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Do you seriously think there is a single owner that wouldn't trade Jimmy Rollins today for a $10 Buxton? $15? $20?
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The idea that Alex Jackson would be valuable if his salary was $4 but is useless bc it's $8 is beyond laughable as it presumes, among other things, precision into both player valuation and the future that you don't possess
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And your Projections of minors to majors are notoriously wrong on the conservative side, especially when dealing with players on other teams
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You could say Gordon and Jackson could be trade chips in 2016...if their salaries were reasonable
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I would be interested in hearing from Chiefs on that but I guarantee you're wrong on that -- you can pick up a SS comparable to Rollins, or if you feel like you need one, you can certainly turn Buxton into one via trade
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Who was worth more? Doesn't that depend on who you're asking? Pretty sure Chiefs would prefer rostering Jimmy Rollins right now to Byron Buxton
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I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that Nick Gordon and Alex Jackson won't contribute meaningful points to a contending team's 2016 roster, if any at all. They will still be in MiLB.
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On April 1st of this year, Derek jeter was obviously projected to score more 2014 points than Byron Buxton. Who was worth more in this league?
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And, again, one of the fallacies in your argument about 2016 is that you can rank players contribution to winning in 2016 by projected 2016 points scored. Obviously false.
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I'm not arguing the NOW about Rodon; I'm arguing that his current price makes him very risky to keep past January. His price now has no impact on the 2014 season and there's little risk to Jed. All the risk is 2015 at his current price.
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I definitely don't say that. But you're not telling me what Jed should have spent on, that he is now prohibited from spending on bc of Rodon. If the answer is "nothing", well then it certainly wasn't wrong to spend on Rodon
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