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It'd be interested to see what Jed, Branham, & Nate have to say, but I feel like I just dominated our Otto Roto draft: Pujols, Fielder, Reyes, Ellsbury, Ruiz ($1), etc
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I mean, I suppose you could just pull all the data out and do it that way, I was looking at the team scoring level
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i couldn't think of a way to back into the P/G numbers, P/IP easy and P/AB easy
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Anyone know what the average (ish) P/G for position players was last year?
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he's an awful fielder and likely always will be, but the bat, plate discipline, speed are there - all that matters from a fantasy perspective
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 5:45 PM
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I still see 290/360/525 batting line, 30/30 potential if RAJ stops messing with him - or even better for fantasy / terrible for real, trade him.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 5:43 PM
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not because of what he might do this year, but the potential. I've seen him live 3 times now (each at a different level), and am completely sold still his ceiling is much higher than a guy like Aaron Hicks.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 5:40 PM
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and Enrico, I get your market price argument - that's the rationale I used in a lot of my cuts actually. I just know I would've gone overboard bidding on Brown and passed that $10 mark if someone went there.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 5:39 PM
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I'll obviously vote for Brown, with Lackey easy 2nd.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 5:38 PM
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It has been almost a week without a single trade! What is happening to us???
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Has anyone been in an OOTP sim league before?
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Have a 5x5 roto draft tonight. Not sure how to really describe it, but feel like Roto is for little leaguers while LWTS is for real men...
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Me too. At least that's what I'm hoping for...
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I'd vote for Ackley, although I would not have kept him.
Eckfords ⚾ on
February 6, 2013 12:01 PM
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Trey if you're down on Aaron hicks I'm all ears... Shoot me an offer.
Eckfords ⚾ on
February 6, 2013 12:00 PM
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Despite my earlier rantings, the answer almost has to be Lackey. The threshold is so low at $3.
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Who is more likely to "break even" at their price: Moore ($41), Brown ($10), L. Cain ($12), Ackley ($18), or Lackey ($3)? Tough call...
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Specifically about Brown, I see his value like I see Aaron Hicks - almost identifical. I'd be willing to pay about $2 for his upside, but Brown is just as much a prospect as Hicks is today, despite a few MLB AB's.
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If I suspect the market values a player at $1 (example), I'm not going to be too worried about getting into a bidding war for him at auction even if I suspect a breakout. If the market value is $1, a bidding war may equal $5, not likely $15
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yes but there are lots of other players who are at least as likely to return that or greater profit, so there's no reason to minimize your profit on him when you could let someone else overpay and get someone else with your saved $$
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what I'm saying is not that I value him at $10, but that I think he can be closer to the $18-22 range - I have him at 10, I very well may have been able to get him at 3 but I also may have ended up spending 15+ - it takes just one other guy.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 11:39 AM
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your argument only makes sense if you can't spend the dollars you saved when you "lost" out b/c one owner went nuts on overbidding to acquire other value. Dom Brown may or may not break out but he would have been cheaper at auction and there are other OF
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But if 10 out of 12 owners value Brown at $1, wouldn't it be beneficial to stick that 12th team with Brown at $15 when the 11th team backs out at $14?
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Micah Owings to the Nationals... as a 1b.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 11:36 AM
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Domonic Brown on my roster fine example - most of you probably value him at $1 or so, but all it would've taken is 1 other owner to think the breakout is coming to push his price to $15. Sometimes you just take the cost certainty.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 11:32 AM
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it's tough to know what's an overpay for sure though unless all 11 other owners give their opinion on the board.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 11:31 AM
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Tulo is only worth $10...
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Just an illustrative example of why overpaying isn't a good idea even if the guy winds up being "worth" the overpay contract
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Who has someone for $50 that they could have gotten for $10?
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I don't think that's true. If you have a guy at 50 that would otherwise got for 10, even if he scores $50 worth that's 40 you could have spent elsewhere in addition
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The value of these contracts is really an opinion at this point - we won't know until season in underway
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 10:40 AM
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There are still several contracts on the books is this league that are worse than Lackey...
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The CARDINALS Chris Carpenter. I make no promises for him outscoring his teammate Chris Carpenter.
Eckfords ⚾ on
February 6, 2013 10:13 AM
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I'll go out on a limb and say that Lackey will outscore Chris Carpenter this year.
Eckfords ⚾ on
February 6, 2013 10:12 AM
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Haha, I probably kept him 75% to stir up shit and 25% on the off-chance he'll be ok.
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You sure can get that on waivers quite frequently, but we're not talking about a $20 investment here. He's catching a lot of flack for a $3 keep.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 10:07 AM
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Big 5 x 5 draft tonight. I have to force myself to care about Wil Venable.
Eckfords ⚾ on
February 6, 2013 10:05 AM
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Give the guy a break....everyone's allowed a longshot homer pick or two. This is the only reason I'm carrying Lucas Duda, probably a more objectionable contract than Lackey's.
Eckfords ⚾ on
February 6, 2013 10:00 AM
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You can get 3.87 P/IP on waivers any time. I'm pretty sure the 61st place ranking was only among qualified pitchers, so likely lower among all SP.
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Harold Reynolds just called Ryan Braun a "nice, young man". Got me researching...Reynolds made his MLB debut 2 months before Braun was born. Didn't realize Reynolds was that old.
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Especially if you play matchups well
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 9:35 AM
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12 teams x 7 SP per team (conservative) - 84 SPs. 2010 Lackey has value, and I think he may be able to outperform that this season.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 9:34 AM
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In 2012, that scoring rate would have been good for 61st best, tied with Mark Buehrle.
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2010 Lackey scored 3.87 P/IP. That's awful.
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HAHAHA! http://l.yimg.com/os/en/blogs/sptusmlbexperts/stantonlongobpvictorino.jpg
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Surprised to see he was actually worth 4 WAR his first season in Boston.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 9:17 AM
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1100 pts - no. 900 - I can definitely see it.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 9:17 AM
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I live in Boston now, and from what I've seen from Lackey himself and local reports, I expect a season more similar to 2010 than 2011-2012. 2010 Lackey actually very valuable at $3.
Caimans 🐊 on
February 6, 2013 9:16 AM
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You're all going to cry yourselves to sleep when I ride an 1,100 point Lackey season to the title.
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Lackey is going to pitch well...he says so: http://goo.gl/wiH5m
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