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That's nice you're counting prospects and we all know you are generally 2-3 years off on MLB eta but whih position are you deeper than me at?
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What depth? I count at least 11 prospects that may not sniff MLB in 2014
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right....my 2013 auction was a prayer too, but I had the money to spend and guys played very well and I was very much in it at the end and had to make some tough decisions down the stretch
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My 2012 team was good but didn't have depth unlike this year. There's a good team this year that I see the same thing on -- solid but everything has to go right
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But it's not just the 260 points; it's that you're keeping 260 points away from the next closest competitor, too. That's like gaining 500 points. If I have a legit shot at the title, a Taveras, Sano, Buxton, Baez, Bradley, etc. are gone. Easily.
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I may not wait until July....but I will certainly wait until in season when I can cover some of the salary....and are you saying you wouldn't trade Taveras for Trout in April/May? Barring injury, that would have a huge effect on your season
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I had a full tear down in 2012, competing in 2013 needed everything to go rights for me, 2014 was always the goal
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I'd be shocked if OF replacement level is 5 P/PG. Only 6 teams averaged 5+ from their entire offense last year. Replacment is probably closer to 4 or 4.25 (Trout @ 8.25). Trading for him in July gives you prob 65 games. That's 260 net points.
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and he had to wait another year....at least it happened early and he didnt have to give up any of his future
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Can't speak for trey, but for me my 2013 teams performance will have little to do with relaying on Taveras to be Trout
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Enrico should be very cognizant of this...If his pitching staff had pitched as solid as they were "supposed" to to begin the year, he would have been in the thick of it the whole way with plenty of trade pieces....but that performance never materialized..
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Over 50 games the difference between elite and crappy is much smaller and very much subject to the vagaries of babip, that's definitely why I don't get why some owners seem to think they're better off waiting until July selling when they're obv rebuilding
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Or you could keep your Sano or Taveras and hope that they are Trout next year or the following year and that the rest of your team performs like you predict or plan on
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within a couple hundred points
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Ortiz is still a great keeper and Greinke netted me Taillon and Cole and Upton was a prayer. If Trout doesn't get hurt this year then he is worth someone who isn't contributing to your team if it is still a tight race
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I traded for guys I thought would be hot down the stretch i.e. Upton/Greinke/Ortiz etc and gave up a ton of young talent. Didn't work out, but how was I to know?
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I'm pretty sure that as late as August last year it was still a relatively tight race where 200 points could have made the difference....then I had some injuries and complete lack of performance/babip issues
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Re FMW, I think it's pretty interesting. When I was rebuilding I sold everything I could and then in the auction bid on players other teams seemed to want just to accumulate assets
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To see why that 150 point move is required.
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And let's not pretend you can decide in July that "that is the difference" for a title, way too many variables that can determine that. Smart MLB teams don't make the trades you're describing; Otto is an attempt to approximate real baseball, I'm failing
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If you trade for Trout at the deadline, you get 50 games, and let's figure he doesn't get hurt so he scores 7.5-8 ppg. What's replacement level in the OF on contending team 5 ish? So basically you'd pay a kings ransom for 150 points?
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little did I know that a waiver wire pick up in Brian Dozier would score 1159 points by year end and ruin everything
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I traded a $3 Gomez, $4 Rizzo, $4 Segura and $4 Archer for major help down the stretch....I only regret trading Segura and even then, I would probably do it again to try and seal up the title
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nobody is saying don't cut your overpriced guys...just not your whole team carte blanche
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God I hope someone breaks the bank in July for 50 games of a $ 70 Trout
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Back to the clearing the roster debate...........If you have a less than stellar roster with some overpriced guys, why not cut them and try to see what happens in the draft?
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I would easily trade a $9 Oscar Taveras for a $70 Mike Trout and an Oscar Taveras jersey.
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You have prospects you wouldn't trade for Trout in July or August if you're in it? There's not one prospect I wouldn't trade for a great shot at the title again. His $70 salary is meaningless in season.
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I can promise you he can't pick anyone he wants if he's selling $70 Trout
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We can debate prospects all off season but when WGW finally sells Trout he can pick any one he wants. My guess is he'll take the best mix of ETA and salary. No one wants to take two years to rebuild.
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Buxton could be McCutchen 2.0, but a big reason he's #1 is because he can do it all, including field. Sano is just unadulterated offense and is ranked highly ONLY b/c he can hit a baseball. I'll take that.
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Ah good it's that time of the year where we rip prospects
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I agree with WGW that less and less premium talent is becoming available in the draft as the league matures.
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Smart owners will care
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I love Sano and love that he's on my roster but prospects are, for the most part, chips. Taveras was thought to be a difference maker last year & he didn't make it up. Still doesn't have a place to play...
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Not sure where Sano is ranked but who cares. I know he'll be the cheapest of the three...
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I wonder if Sano will be ranked behind 3 of my prospects or only two
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this was fun :)
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depending on the talent in the auction pool
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Sano + $65 is a difference maker for 2015...
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If I'm in your shoes I a) absolutely keep Trout for 2014 and b) absolutely trade him as soon as I fall out of contention. Big chip.
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'CAN BE' that important...obviously I had him this year and did not win, but I still think he would go for something similar at an auction so I may as well keep him when I don't think there is going to be enough other talent to spend that same money on
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Trout is too important for a championship run....Sano isn't going to be that difference maker in 2015....maybe there is another out there that will be and I will consider it
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I made the conscious decision when I drafted Trout last year that if he lived up to his hype/performance, that I would be keeping him as long as I am competing or could get a massive haul in return
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Because you will realize in August that you need $65 of that money to put elsewhere for a run in 2015. Trout is a big chip but even with a repeat of 2013 i'ts doubtful he's anything more than a rental for this season
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Trout will be kept barring injury or some other major unforeseen circumstance
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I have no doubt WGW is keeping Trout at $70. No doubt.
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If I'm keeping him at $70, why not $72...I still have money to spend at the draft
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I got Sano for another elbow - traded Sabathia for him.
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i will be giddy if Trout is kept
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