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whiskey opinions could get more heated than Strikes and EP over prospect value.... not arguing about Blue though
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I think it was undervalued and worth acquiring at $20, but at $45 I would've passed.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 11:49 PM
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It's like a deal in the past. You decide to keep or cut Johnnie on the current merits, right?
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Fun going though old trades. Think my favorite was the deal I got Sale for absolutely nothing.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 11:47 PM
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Oh geez, are we talking whisky now? Blue is a rip...
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I can do a breakdown of the "biggest" trades (# players, salary, points) shortly after the keeper deadline.
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I might miss that $60 though.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 11:43 PM
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Hotel I'm at had glass of Johnnie Walker Blue for $20. I couldn't pass up a sale.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 11:43 PM
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Pretty sure there is a 12 player trade on the books. I think Syndicate was part of it.
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I like that Kohl and Kole are included on opposite sides.
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Crying is the go to guy for trade history stuff
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I believe me and Trey had a 9 or 10 player deal with much bigger names halfway through the first season
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 11:40 PM
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Calendar year? Because that's less impressive. Or maybe more. Not sure.
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no just the first one this year
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And I would be happy to trade teams with Durham. I think I actually proposed that.
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that's almost not worth dissecting
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That can't be the first 10 player deal in this league. If it is, shame on all of you.
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holy moly.... why not just switch team ownership?
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And I'd also like to say I support LeBatard.
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Apologies if I send any ridiculous trade offers out this evening.
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Haven't tried the whiskey tonight. But I'm several beers deep and just realized the movie 'Perfect Pitch' is on TV. I might have a new team name soon.
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mmmm....whiskey
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regression - damn autocorrect again. Or Whiskey. That one could've been whiskey.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 10:39 PM
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If Bill James sees any progression it's a problem haha
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 10:39 PM
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but in Bill James' projection world nobody's OPS is under 800
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Bill James doesn't see that much regression: Carpenter - .309/.395/.469/.864 w/ 13 HR, 49 2B's. Donaldson - .273/.351/.455/.806 w/22 HR, 34 2B's
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Yea that's true I did base that on empty slots but he obviously wasn't going to do that. I'd say net gain of 400-600. Still significant.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 9:41 PM
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Looks like he exchanged Kendrick for Carpenter and maybe Joyce or Crawford for Donaldson, so that's probably a net of about 400-500 points, which is still significant. But he does have more depth, which is key (assumes a healty Machado plugged in at 3B)
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He didn't add that many points unless he planned on starting nobody at 2B and 3B.
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Enrico just took an enormous 2014 jump up the standings I think - at worst he just added about 1500 points, with possibility of 2000, for almost no extra $ and for guys with little chance of big 2014 impact
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 9:32 PM
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I really do like this trade for both teams...not a ton of risk based on price for EP, but definitely selling high for Knights as I personally don't think they will get much better but possibly not a lot of regression
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I don't think Buxton gets increased that much on that roster...also, let's not forget that 2013 Donaldson could easily turn into 2012 and 2013 Headley
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My roster is very different than it was a week ago
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 9:13 PM
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arb, not Sen - damn autocorrect
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 9:12 PM
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I have enough young talent to spread some of that Sen money around I think. Info regret adding arb money to Buxton now though.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 9:12 PM
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Only thing I don't like about that trade is that this league format will punish Buxton into a $20+ player entering 2015 if Buxton even has a decent year in AA or AAA. That hype attracts arb dollars like crazy.
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I think that was a really good trade for Enrico. I still think both Carpenter and Donaldson are valuable. Buxton is obviously the centerpiece, and while setting the bar at Mike Trout is unreasonable, McCutchen 2.0 is also a great player
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I think it was CC
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 8:42 PM
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What was Trout traded for originally? I tried to look it up but it must have been done manually because I don't see a trade history for him.
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Even Jabari Blash.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 9, 2014 8:38 PM
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Yea, I regret that move
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 8:37 PM
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Trout has single-handedly increased the trade value of prospects across all fantasy leagues in the universe
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I remember getting ripped for trading for a 20 Trout, who was 4 years away from relevance according to some
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Yea I'm the guy who gave Trout $20 at 1st auction, so you can see where my thought process is.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 8:32 PM
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But who knows. Nobody thought Mike Trout was going to have much 2012 fantasy value.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 9, 2014 8:27 PM
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Fair enough. I think it was smart to move Carpenter and Donaldson prior to the start of the season, but if 2015 is the goal, Carpenter and Donaldson will have more 2015 value than Buxton.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 9, 2014 8:26 PM
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And with this deal, as if it wasn't official already, I am completely out for 2014. There are other pieces available if they increase my chances in 2015 that may increase yours for 2014.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 8:25 PM
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I completely understand if some of you think I could've had more or that I would've been better off holding these guys - at this point only time will tell.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 8:23 PM
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I tried to get two of Buxton, Taveras, and Correa but Enrico held his line and Lindor was very close to that level.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 8:22 PM
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And as much as a lot of you may disagree, Buxton was my #1 target overall out of anyone. You can say you would've topped it, but based on the value I have for Buxton that was unlikely.
Caimans 🐊 on
January 9, 2014 8:21 PM
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