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He has every right to fill out his roster, man. The cap penalty rule is the check/balance and he's paying the price. Games start in five days. I'm sure there's ample opportunity for him to make his roster right.
Crone Zone on
March 15, 2019 9:58 AM
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Guys this will be my only message I promise. Just would like an explanation why verlander bud on another players? Some are at $4? Did I miss something after he was warned?
The Harvest on
March 15, 2019 9:57 AM
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Hell's Replacement Players's trade block has been updated!
Crone Zone on
March 14, 2019 11:46 PM
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Thanks for getting legal so quickly, Verlander.
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You’re right about some of your points though Astros, I bid high and planned to pick and choose who to keep. Had the flexibility to even use cap hits if needed. Really was pretty sloppy in my execution, nominated way too many guys and that just backfired on me costing a nice chunk of my cap.
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Trading from the excess isn’t even an option, Ottoneu doesn’t allow you to make trades, set lineups or do anything if your roster is in an invalid state. Whole point was to fill my roster for opening day.
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Why didn’t I drop until I was “forced”? I always planned to make necessary cuts after the auctions. This morning was the first time I had been on since I went over. It was like 12 hours after the fact that I made cuts. I am the guy who literally forgot and missed the auction, 12 hour turnaround is not too shabby.
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Honestly wasnt trying anything too clever. The winning bidder wins for $1 higher than whatever someone else was willing to pay, and then that’s cut in half so it’s not raising the price of anyone. For the guys who should be a $1, they’ll still be a $1.
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CE the players go to waivers not rebid. Look under players/waivers big difference
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 3:38 PM
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Look, Astros, my patience is wearing thin. If there is continued complaining on the message board I will reach out to Niv to get your money back for the season and remove you from the league. I have had to do that once before, but it is a last resort. Other teams have been messaging me asking me to make you stop. I tried ignoring you, but the fact that you have posted 40 plus messages on the board in the past 24 hours plus countless direct messages is absurd. Please move on. Thank you - Steve
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CE- the players he drops go to waivers and have minimum bids- so for example Lou Truvino is $5 minimum because he waived him. You cannot renominate these players. So verlander set the bar for all players he dropped. Totally unacceptable what he did. Like I said he bid on 60 players and half we after he had 40 player max. To not think he wasn’t trying to bid on as many Players and only waiver them after he was told to. He hurt 11 owners here and he should have additional penalty his actio
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 3:37 PM
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The cost would be 4 to him. If he cuts, I can restart the auction for 2. I was already prepared to pay 3, so him going over me isnt giving anyone an advantage... in my opinion.
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Houston, can you elaborate on how Verlander adding players increases the price for the rest of us? My thoughts are that if he opened 30 auctions, and bid more than a dollar, he is risking his cap space and roster slots. If he cuts them, the cap hit is bigger. Yes, that player would be more expensive if someone else starts an auction on them later, but the only cases that would happen are if somebody else bid on the player also. If I am interested a player he put up, and i bid 3 and he bids 100..
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Sorry, my last message was posted late, I didnt see new responses, including Verlanders.
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Good point, guys. I am fine with the auctions going through, as long as he gets legal soon
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Yikes
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Verlander also had $2~6 bids on most of his players. If he knew he went overboard why didn’t he have $1 bids? His intentions were malicious. He also kept nominating players after he had 60 players. Why do that? Well so he could pick and chose who he wanted to keep. Pretty sleazy verlander.
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 1:02 PM
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Dont believe verlander. Why didnt you drop the players until the commish forced you? Your actions indicate your were going to hold onto them and make trades. 80 players is excessive and I understand u are a veteran in ottoneu. You now drove up prices of players you dropped. Pretty crappy way and no consideration of the results .
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 12:57 PM
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Yep, definitely went overboard on putting guys up for bid lol but was just trying to fill the roster out. No malicious intent
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It's his cap space. If he wants to burn it this way, that's his prerogative, so long as his roster is kept in good standing.
Crone Zone on
March 14, 2019 12:49 PM
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We never heard from verlander on his sad stunt he tried to pull on the other owners. Now we have to pay minimums for players that should be $1
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 12:46 PM
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Thanks Verlander. I can feel the tension in the league slowly dwindling.
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Verlander? I Hardly Know Her!'s trade block has been updated!
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All set
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Yep, actually agree with hells. Painful lesson to learn but that is the rule in ottoneau
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 11:30 AM
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Hold on there. Click the auction button, you pay the price. Best thing anyone can do with a looming, potentially unwanted, auction is to set the bid to a buck and cross your fingers someone else takes the player. Otherwise, the player will have to be acquired and then kept or dropped at the appropriate price points. The rule on cap penalties is clear for dropped players. This needs to be factored into every auction one starts.
Crone Zone on
March 14, 2019 11:13 AM
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Cool, it sounds like we have some agreement. 50, are you able to see who started the auctions currently running? I imagine its Verlander going all in with this strategy. Can you stop the new ones?
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Thank you, commish.
Crone Zone on
March 14, 2019 10:51 AM
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I sent an message to him asking to cut down to his limit by midnight. He hasn't been on today, so it is most likely that he has other things going on. I have been in leagues with him in the past and have never had issues, for what that is worth.
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Yes bud reasonable
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 10:20 AM
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Does anyone have contact with the owner in question outside of the league? I know he said he's been very busy lately, and so perhaps isn't watching as actively as, say, I am.
Crone Zone on
March 14, 2019 10:18 AM
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Houston, does that seem reasonable?
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Agree last 40 should be dropped whomever they are. He now knows how all of us evaluate players and the price we want pay for them.
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 10:12 AM
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I think he should need to be legal within 24 hours (or something reasonable) or the last 40+ players should be dropped.
This is another ottoneu rule that is open to some league interpretation and I agree that it should not go unenforced.
And, as we did with Houston in the draft (by warning him to not miss another nomination), this conversation should be considered a warning to him to cut it out and get legal.
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The commish should rescind all these bids. A person who.does this knows exactly what he is doing.
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 10:03 AM
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The biggest advantage he has if he does not get legal soon is he is locking interesting fringe guys out of the universe during the most crucial point in most of their seasons- spring training. He is able to learn more about each of their role for the season each passing day. He potentially is able to add more closers (and for less) because when the auctions started there was more uncertainty and the rest of us bid accordingly. He would be making a more informed choice in who to keep.
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I think he should not be allowed to bid on any more players. He has 80 players now double the limit. We now have to pay his price when he cuts them to claim them. Not fair.
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 10:00 AM
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I tend to agree with Astros on this, in so far as this is a form of roster abuse. Though I doubt it's done as a strategy or to game us. Verlander us going to burn his entire cap just in drop penalties. I believe he won't be able to set up lineups until his roster is cleaned up, amiright?
Crone Zone on
March 14, 2019 9:58 AM
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I think most likely he was unaware of the rule and was looking for any way to get to a competitive state before the season starts. He gained a lot of information by doing this, he knows who bid on whom and for how much. He also could be hoping to free up players on our rosters by bringing up prospects for auction. I made a lot of bids, and ended up in an illegal state. That made me cut a player I would have rostered until at least April. Although, I'm not sure why I was holding $6 Avisial Garcia
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You bring up a few good points. He should not be intentionally going over 40. That would be similar to intentionally missing nominations to gain a perceived advantage. Of course, he could be unaware of that rule or have made a mistake. Maybe he thought he wouldn't get so many of them.
There are checks in the system for this type of manipulation. He wont be able to bid on any of his cut players for 30 days, and of course will have a huge amount of cap hits.
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You guys dont realize that what verlander is doing will hurt all of us. He will have to drop 30 of his 70 players for the price he paid for each player so you would be able to bid $1 on any players he paid more than $1. I know we had issues with musicals is disagreeing but how is this cool? He knows he can only have 40 and dont think he can even trade any of then since the program forces you to drop players to get to 40. Understand?
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 8:59 AM
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Rule 1C says you can face penalties if you willingly go over 40 man rosters
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 7:14 AM
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Part of me wonders if the No show at the draft was done at the draft on purpose with this strategy. Just an opinion.
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 7:04 AM
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If you guys are smart don't trade with verlander. Hes going to have to cut most of these players and you can bid on them again.
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 7:01 AM
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No the commish and league did not treat me fairly. Musical was unlocked before a vote. That is owed an explanation from the Commish. 2 sets of rules
The Harvest on
March 14, 2019 6:49 AM
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In other news, Verlander has been kind of busy. He didn't use his money at the draft, but that won't stop him from spending all of his money. Bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for him.
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A majority of the league voted in the chat to unlock Musi(c)al. Then again to lock you. I think commish treated both fairly and listened to the league, while also using his judgement. I truly hope we can all move past it. I admit, I may have been a bit rude in the draft room to you. Heat of the moment, I suppose. For that, I am sorry. If you want, we can talk more in DM, but I think I have expressed my view on it clearly. I think the league as a whole has spent enough time discussing it.
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Please guys.....let's stop this. It's not healthy PLEASE
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How were you attacked by me? I stated my opinion that I think you need to get over it. That's about it.
Crone Zone on
March 13, 2019 10:44 PM
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If the commish can committ to treat every owner the same I will drop this.
The Harvest on
March 13, 2019 10:39 PM
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