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1.99 era .75 whip that's top t in nl
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:19 PM
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Lmao didnt this guy say he would have understood if it was just Marte for Meadows and salary relief?? That would be a complete ass ramming of a trade
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Wait, my logic is insane yet you just called Paddack a top 5 SP? He’s not even close by total points or PPI.
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Marte at $20 isn't very appealling to me, I dont know why the heck that would be vetoed.
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I'm glad the guys involved have weighed in.
This is ottoneu. It's built for dump trades just like this. Paddack is a pitcher and inherently volitile as such. Meadows is a better hitter than Paddack is pitcher. And when building a core, one should always centre on bats first and add pitching at the moment you're able to contend.
Thanks fo speaking for yourselves guys. I hope this goes through.
Crone Zone on
May 19, 2019 4:12 PM
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Both trade partners logic is insane. Dont believe there is collusion but their reasoning for the trade opens up minds. So.suspects gets a top 5 pitcher and marte for a good hitter. To call meadows top 5 is obsurd and just a reason to push thr deal through.
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:11 PM
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I dont think that's an accurate assessment of Paddack... but I understand the logic.
I just don't think the veto should be used to correct trades like this. Not fair to the accepting team, and not fair to let the offering team off the hook. In Steed's opinion, he got the best player in the trade, but he probably realizes he could have given up less to do so.
I won't quit the league if it is veto'd, but I doubt I will be voting to veto.
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Everyone on the pro-veto train is being ridiculous. Paddack's MLB track record is literally a month and change. Meanwhile Marte is a low power-low OBP guy on the wrong side of 30, while Meadows is showing top-5 overall caliber upside. And Musial's point stands Batzuek. You can't complain about trades when you refuse to partake. You alone have caused more BS than all of the teams combined over my past 2+ years in the league.
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Of course its not veto to you since you made the deal. Paddock has been highly regarded for a few years and is proving it. Pretty fishy IMO
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 4:00 PM
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Also, if you’re going to refuse to trade with half the league on “principle”, remember that will throw off trade values. Feel free to veto this, but if you do please have a defensible reason other than “this seems off to me.” For example, even though Martes salary might be keepable, he’ll likely be a cut for me since I am already over the cap with loans. So Steeds will probably have the option of bidding on him next year.
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Meadows has outscored Marte by 80 points while playing 2/3 of the games he’s played. Also remember Meadows is a former top prospect who looks like he finally remembered how to hit. So I got a middle of the pack OF and a SP with virtually no track record for a top prospect who’s raking. This certainly doesn’t seem veto-able to me.
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Sounds good man, hopefully you can send me a sweet offer in a couple days then.
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Marte is still a keeper at $20. Not buying this story and this time others agree.
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 3:44 PM
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Listen if someone will give me more for Paddack and Marte by all means veto away haha— but I was happy that he accepted the deal. I think I turned a profit on Paddack vs when I traded for him two weeks ago, and I think he’s a major candidate for regression, obviously he could be a stud but I feel better about my roster post-trade.
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Let's hope it gets vetoed. Nice try mighty.
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 3:32 PM
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I’m happy to show messages to prove there was no collusion - that was an inbound offer from Steads that I didn’t solicit in any way. I think it’s weighted my way this year but he gets a great building block bat for next.
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Definitely no collusion, maybe should’ve shopped Paddack around a bit more but I offered him in a few deals already and feel confident that Meadows is the better long term bet. For me the trade was Meadows for Paddack, which personally was happy to do, and Marte as an add-in that’s about an average OF in our format and likely not a keeper at that price.
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I hear you guys. This is definitely one that tests my personal policy.
Crone Zone on
May 19, 2019 3:21 PM
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I can see meadows and marte with salty dump but adding g paddack at $6 for a team in 10th place? That's a player you dont throw in
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 3:06 PM
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Hells, I vetoed this time in case you are taing names.
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Agreed
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Yep veto. Marte and paddack? Ok
The Harvest on
May 19, 2019 1:07 PM
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Cienfuegos Elefantes's trade block has been updated!
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WTF's trade block has been updated!
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WTF's trade block has been updated!
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I have a couple of players coming off the 60 day DL in the next month or so. Justin Upton and Didi... I think Didi could be ready to go by the end of May, and Upton sometime in June.
If you are interested in trading for either, now might be a good time to send an offer. The price will only increase as they get closer. Both on 60 day, so they wont be taking up a roster spot until they are helping your team.
Obviously I am looking for players that can help me win next year, and/or prospects.
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Well I'm not saying I'm an saint but the commish has been aggressive with me on several occasions and has made no effort to want to resolve our issues. 2 owners told me personally that his calling me out was not right. Rather than always attack me the commish calls me the victim. If the commish wants to.rsoce this with me then we can move forward. Balls in your court 50
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 7:39 PM
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Well, it would appear, if you guys search the term 'Jamie' in your inbox, you will see messages from what is now Houston Astros team signed Jamie. Looks like he was the commish based on talk of scheduling a draft night; asking the league to vote on a trade he viewed as unbalanced. However, my question was just intended to be fun - not a sausage measuring contest. Haha. Good-word, the vitriol from some quarters. :P
Crone Zone on
May 13, 2019 7:30 PM
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Listen someone brought up about who is in the league since day 1. Asking if anyone knew Jamie or rusty.
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 6:54 PM
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My comment was that the person he took over for was not the commissioner. Honestly, I couldn't care less. I don't know what this guy's problen is. He just stirs shit up and I have had enough. It has made the league less fun and it won't continue.
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FWIW, as much as I hate to admit it, I think Astros is right. We did have a guy who I think was named Jamie who was commish for a while and was really into it until he suddenly and abruptly left, at which point I took over commish. However, he was gone for a while and Astros just joined this year, correct?
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I'm an original 456ers and short-term commish until I went into an offseason slumber and suffered a severe dereliction of duties. Also won our inaugural season with a stars & scrubs team for the ages (OF of Harper, Trout, Stanton). All downhill from there somehow, even though I like my current team even better
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U took over rob's team?
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 6:26 PM
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I don't know what you are talking about. I never know what you are talking about.
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Wanna bet 50?
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 6:16 PM
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No idea who Jamie is, nor was he commissioner of this league if you took over his team.
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Jaime was actually commish from 2014-2016. 50 you still.stand by not knowing jaime?
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 5:52 PM
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Jaimie was former owner of my team
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 4:08 PM
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I have been in this league since 2014 and have no idea who "rusty" or "jamie" are.
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Not me but know rusty and jaime very well who are former owners
The Harvest on
May 13, 2019 9:38 AM
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Touching on what Finders said about being an original member has me curious. How many of us are original 456ers? As some of you may know, this is my second year in the pool. Having a great time, and love the high competition.
Crone Zone on
May 13, 2019 9:03 AM
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Yep exactly
The Harvest on
May 12, 2019 10:43 PM
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... On infowars.com
Crone Zone on
May 12, 2019 10:33 PM
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I'm keeping that private and will be happy to share in September
The Harvest on
May 12, 2019 9:57 PM
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Damn it. Sorry I asked.
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What are your beliefs on this league, Astros?
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This has been a great league to play in. I've been in this league since it began. No one has won the league twice. Very competitive.
HUF! on
May 12, 2019 9:43 PM
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Will be curious in September if my beliefs on this league end up being true
The Harvest on
May 12, 2019 9:36 PM
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Yeah this is the perfect “if” trade - if Berrios can turn the corner, if Stras can keep this up, if Kershaw doesn’t spontaneously combust on the mound.
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That's the sign of a good trade, I think.
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