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Haha, amazing.
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why rockies.. why? http://deadspin.com/noble-strongman-trevor-story-undone-by-his-own-dumb-sta-1770957247
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Schwarber :(
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FYI - a couple of deals in the work involving Stanton. so if you are interested, bring your best offers my way
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4. Stats are stats, but we all know this is a game of chance, not of certainty. I feel as though the deal set me up better in the future as my team wasnt in much shape to compete this year. The fact i'd even have to defend my deal in any way shape or form is kind of annoying. If some of you want to have more input on my decisions, feel free to send me some of the entry fee :). We can co-op it! but for those of you interested. Stanton is available.
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Alright... so here are my thoughts on the whole thing 1. I may have sold short on Thor, but that should not result in a veto. 2. I dont think a trade should EVER be vetoed, unless it is breaking the league. It is not our responsibility to tell other owners how to run their teams. This trade does not break the league or leave one team in shambles. 3. It was my choice to not announce my shopping of Thor because he came to me with offers first. Anyone else could have done the same.
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One of the fun things about Ottoneu is how everyone values players differently. My last thought: in real baseball, you guys are right. But Sonny Gray isn't a stud in Ottoneu because he lacks the strikeout rate. .2 P/IP is a lot. And Buxton may be a great player, but power is his most iffy tool and it's the most important tool in Ottoneu. So while I'm not vetoing, I don't think the deal is close and I think YH would have gotten a lot more had he informed the league that Thor was available.
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April 5, 2016 9:29 PM
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It's fair enough to me. I personally would take Thor but not veto worthy
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In an era where the #1 prospect rating is yielding mega stars on a consistent basis, I think Buxton and Gray isn't a bad offer for THOR. It's a stretch to say That gray isn't a proven studd, because he is and by all accounts. Buxton will be a star player in the major league's. Fair trade. IMO.
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Are we really going to discount Buxton based on 138 PA in the MLB? He is just 22 and was pushed pretty quickly through the minors for a HS prospect. There is a very long list of superstars who also struggled in their first 150 PA. You are entitled to your opinion, but be wary of the precedent for the league you are setting by throwing out the V-word.
sabrsplit on
April 5, 2016 2:36 PM
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Todd Van Poppel once said that the 'top prospect' label is not a substantive argument.
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That said, a trade of Gray+Buxton for Thor isn't one I'd make, but you can see how it may work out, however unlikely given Buxton's bust potential. The over the top pet of trade is including Santana, who is both currently better than Buxton and may well be better in the future (especially in fantasy, where Buxton's defense doesn't matter.) Santana's inclusion actually means Young and Hopeless is giving up the 2 best players in the deal, and that merits a veto IMO.
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If Buxton completely hits his ceiling, that trade could be even. But if you're trading a stud, it's always better to let people know and shop him around. Even if you end up liking the original deal best, clearly there are several people who really like Syndergaard and may have offered more.
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April 5, 2016 2:20 PM
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Being low on Gray is correct, he doesn't score as an ace in a FIP-based points system, as his FIP is in the mid-3.40s the past 2 years. Additionally, as K's around the game have risen, his have fallen off, leading projection systems to be even more bearish on Gray. At the same time, Buxton K'd 30% of the time in the majors last year, and that performance continued this spring against weaker competition, suggesting his high prospect status may lead to a Dom Brown future.
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Exactly. While I'll agree, i probably should have asked for a lil more, Getting a cheap Gray/Buxton plus a flyer on Olson were worth it in my eyes
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Syndergaard is the best player in the deal, however I think some of you are low on Gray because of Steamer projections. Even with Syndergaard's lights out performance last year, he only finished with .2 P/IP more than Gray over a smaller sample size. On top of that, Buxton has been the top prospect in the game the past 2 years and is second this year behind Seager. A breakout from him could end up tilting this deal differently than you are expecting.
sabrsplit on
April 5, 2016 1:54 PM
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Yeah, that's selling Thor really low. Windfall deal for SABR.
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April 5, 2016 1:01 PM
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Mine?
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Could at least get a top prospect back...like the ones he gave up previously.
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April 5, 2016 11:12 AM
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That's such a clearly veto-worthy trade
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So far, so good. Cardinals lost, Jays won. Just need the Royals to lose now, haha.
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Happy Opening Day!
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Hey guys, check out the 301 Slack channel in order to see the league charter I created for us this year
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just an FYI -- I am not ignoring trade requests or messages.. just been super busy the past couple week. hoping next week i can get things rolling
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