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This is something to deal with a week before the season's end, not after the fact.
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Let HK be and stick this in the back pocket for next season.
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My other leagues have just seen that as an issue they don't want to deal with and just enforced the roster limit. I think it's easier and cleaner, but could be interesting to play the other way I guess. Just can't be mad if someone has every possible prospect on their 100 man roster next offseason!
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No you're right, it's not that big of a deal. It just gives HK 6 more guys to trade with than everyone else for this offseason. But if the rule is not enforced this year, no reason for everyone in the league not to auction as many extra guys as they want on the last day of the season next year. No reason not to have 100-150 auctions on the last day and rosters that are 10-20 men over limit going into next season. If that's what we want, that's fine. Just recognize it.
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I don't really see this as a big problem right now. Teams that are over will need to make cuts between the end of arbitration and the Keeper Deadline. Pretty certain you cannot keep more than 40 and must be under the cap.
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I'm an eternally butthurt/bitter owner with a chip on my shoulder that's just not gonna go away
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This is a top-heavy league IMO. We're coming for you.
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LT Titans ⚂ on
November 3, 2016 2:03 PM
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Napalm Bombs on
November 3, 2016 8:33 AM
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Looks to me then that every team was legal at the end of the season except for Hello Kitty, who won six players the final day. Big Al just had Devin Mesoraco come off the 60 day DL this week.
It's just a much better and clearer policy to follow the Ottoneu rules and ask all teams to be legal. Looks like HK would have to cut six guys to get there. In season and out of season, the basic requirement is to have a legal number of men on your team.
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I'd argue that allowing that type of behavior would promote competitive balance- not hinder it- but that's a different discussion completely.
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Yeah, I agree with you Han Solo. I think if you're legal going into the offseason, that's what's important. I think the main goal is to prevent teams from auctioning extra players the last couple days of the year and loading up their roster for offseason trading.
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Just speaking for myself: I feel that if the team was legal after the last game of the season, then the team should be fine until end of arbitration, regardless of how many players on said team come off the 60DL. Of course, if the team was just hoarding players illegally on the last day of the season, that's different.
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And it seems kind of dumb that an owner would have to cut players before the season ends just in case a 60DL player comes off the DL before the end of arbitration.
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So this is kind of a weird rule right? If a team has 40 players + 1 60DL when the season ends, the team is legal. But, if during the playoffs, a player comes off the DL, the team is then considered illegal? However, you cannot cut players until after arbitration. So...? You are just stuck with an illegal squad then, at least until arbitration ends.
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Yeah, it goes unenforced often, but that gives teams an unfair advantage. You're right, didn't notice I was over the limit. I'm fine making a cut. I was legal at season's end, but I guess Zack Cozart was brought off the 60 day DL this week.
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That rule often goes uninforced around Ottoneu I gather, but it is a rule although I disagree it should be condemned to be a few players over the 40 man limit while other teams are a few hundred dollars over the salary cap. Players are reinstated, loans expire, what's the difference? But, the rules are the rules. You too FG need to make a cut.
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Yeah, really easy to go over the limit without realizing, especially a situation like that. And in the offseason, these cuts usually won't be painful. All of us likely have guys on our rosters that we know aren't keepers for next year and don't have much trade value either.
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Commish, go ahead and cut Corey Gearrin from my team.
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Hey guys, I'm happy to make a cut. In my defense I had both Schwarber and Greg Bird who didn't play during the regular season. I kind of figured both were on the shelf, but my fault for not double-checking their 60-day DL status.
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No, legal in the offseason just requires having the correct roster size, which is required at all times by the Ottoneu rules. Lots of teams will have too much salary due to the automatic increases and that's allowed until the cut deadline. Having too many players on your roster isn't ever allowed under the rules.
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Legal roster implies under the salary cap, no? I don't mind if guys are illegal heading into the offseason and if the league decides to crack down, nothing should take precedent until next season.
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One of my leagues is also asking owners to pay before allocating. Basically allows another owner to step in if the existing owner isn't able to commit for next year. Looks like we have a good group of committed owners, but just in case someone wants out, this seems like the best time for a new owner to jump in and really participate in the offseason.
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Pretty impressive that everyone has already allocated! None of my other leagues have done that.
I am wondering if we want to address some teams having illegal rosters entering the offseason. Looks we we have two teams with more players than roster spots (40 man plus 60 day DL). Seems like a good precedent to make sure that everyone is legal and on a level playing field in regards to allocation and offseason trading.
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also, I'm from Chicago..... but NOT a Cubs fan ;-)
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November 1, 2016 11:35 AM
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Looks like I got the full $33 thrown my way, although i was expecting that.
Napalm Bombs on
November 1, 2016 11:35 AM
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Anyone else a Cubs fan in this league?
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Yeah, thanks a lot guys for the $31 coming my way. Ya'll are the best, haha.
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Thanks everyone for doing allocations. We've had laggers in the past, which can make things skewed and less than fair to everyone. Also, the opposite of thank you for allocating $30 to my team (tied for most) even though I finished in 5th place :p
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I believe that's a typo in the rules. IIRC you cannot cut players from the end of the season until after arbitration (11/14).
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Does our league have specific rules? The rules I see say players can be cut from the end of the season through the end of allocations but my roster is currently locked. What am I missing?
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October 26, 2016 9:09 PM
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October 26, 2016 12:46 AM
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October 25, 2016 3:12 PM
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Napalm Bombs on
October 21, 2016 4:37 AM
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Unfortunately I'm more of a contributor to the success of Fake Girlfriends and a detriment to the success of our league.
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http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/ottoneu-power-rankings-final-2016/ we are the 5th top SABR league and pryguy has two teams in the top five of SABR teams.
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October 13, 2016 9:02 AM
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Just want to have fun's trade block has been updated!
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Clash City Rockers's trade block has been updated!
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Hello Kitty's trade block has been updated!
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Danny DeVito's trade block has been updated!
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Haha thanks guys!
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Congrats "pryguy", we all know who you really are.
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Congrats FG!
Napalm Bombs on
October 3, 2016 2:18 AM
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Hey everyone - took over hello kitty. Happy to be on board ! -Rob
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Scoring a $1 familia last year has been the pinnacle of my earthly existence thus far, though I'm still holding out for greater things. Haha.
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Of course some prospects will bust relative to their salary, and not be worth it. Seems like this league is in part of the cycle where hitting on prospects is of the utmost importance.
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Totally agree it will correct itself. Once the surplus values run too rampant, the market will purge itself and we'll start over, haha. The prospects we had to pay top dollar for now will mature and will probably cost about the same as what a new league would pay for them 5 years from now.
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