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Roy Halladay Renaissance's trade block has been updated!
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November 22, 2016 3:50 AM
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LT Cascade's trade block has been updated!
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November 22, 2016 1:09 AM
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Fake Girlfriends's trade block has been updated!
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Clash City Rockers's trade block has been updated!
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Just want to have fun's trade block has been updated!
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Fake Girlfriends's trade block has been updated!
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Clash City Rockers's trade block has been updated!
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LT Cascade's trade block has been updated!
LT Titans ⚂ on
November 20, 2016 1:37 PM
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Clash City Rockers's trade block has been updated!
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Fake Girlfriends's trade block has been updated!
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Very interesting trade with three big bullpen arms and Mazara! I'll be really interested to see how that plays out with roles, health and whether Mazara can reach his ceiling.
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Regarding his power improvement at age 32, it's important to realize that he didn't even play a full season in the majors until age 27 (1990). Today it would have been unheard of to let a hitter like him toil so long in the minors. In 91' and 92' he hit 14 and 18 HRs, arguably adjusting to MLB pitching. Then in 93' he suffered a bad hamstring injury, only managing 4 HRs in 42 games. In the strike shortened 94' season, he hit 13 HRs in 89 games (20+ pace?). In 95' we arrive at his age 32 season.
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November 19, 2016 2:07 PM
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LT Cascade's trade block has been updated!
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November 19, 2016 1:44 PM
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I agree on Martinez. Guy was an OBP machine. What a weird career trajectory with regards to power, though. The guy doesn't hit for more than 18 bombs until his age 32 season, then goes on to hit around 30 every year thereafter. Had he found his HR power a little earlier, he probably gets his career OPS close to 1K. He's was a considerably better hitter than Ortiz on a rate basis, and it would be a shame if Ortiz gets in, but not him.
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Han Solo's Blaster's trade block has been updated!
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Clash City Rockers's trade block has been updated!
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That has to be a record for most award winners on one team! I was very fortunate to sneak a win last year with the squad you have.
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Five of the six major award winners on my squad last year and still couldnt win! Damn you FG!! lol!
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November 18, 2016 3:10 AM
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LT Cascade's trade block has been updated!
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November 17, 2016 7:54 PM
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Roy Halladay Renaissance's trade block has been updated!
Coastal Empire on
November 17, 2016 2:31 PM
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LT Cascade's trade block has been updated!
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November 17, 2016 1:46 PM
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I agree with Roy on Ortiz and Martinez- although I'm not as certain Ortiz gets in the 1st time. It will be a shame if Ortiz does get in to the hall before (or without) Edgar getting in. While I am biased as a Mariners fan, I feel one only need to look at Edgar's career .418 OBP over 2,000 games to see he deserves to get in.
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November 17, 2016 12:21 PM
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On numbers alone, he seems pretty borderline. By WAR even with the DH penalty, he's comparable to Will Clark and Fred McGriff. But his postseason resume and 5 straight top-5 MVP finishes get him in. I don't see him getting in on first ballot though. He'll get penalized for being a DH and for PED allegations.
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He's definitely voted in first ballot, but only because everyone loves the Red Sox. In my view, Edgar Martinez deserves strong consideration which he hasn't gotten only because of the franchise he played for, the Mariners.
Coastal Empire on
November 16, 2016 9:55 PM
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I mean, it's quite possible that in a world with no DH, he flames out after his Minnesota days.
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So fellas, now that Ortiz has officially retired, how do you personally view his career? To me, while he is a HOFer, he is NOT a first ballot type. I feel this way because if the DH had never been invented, I think his career wouldn't have been quite as good. With no DH, I think he retires a while ago and never passes the 500 HR mark.
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Thanks for the update, Rockers.
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Danny DeVito's trade block has been updated!
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I'm going to consult with Niv about this situation, but I do feel we should lay some ground rules for next offseason. It seems everyone is in agreement about roster sizes at the end of the season....I'm just surprised a) it's not enforced by ottoneu, and b) the loophole hasn't been exposed and closed. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Clash City Rockers's trade block has been updated!
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Big Al's trade block has been updated!
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Sorry if anyone else wanted in on the Cabrera bidding. I guess Roy and I were ready to deal! Feel free to make me some offers or send messages as you can. I'm open for business.
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Han Solo's Blaster's trade block has been updated!
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Fake Girlfriends's trade block has been updated!
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I agree 100% with The Exponentials and think the commissioner should clarify now that this rule will be enforced next offseason if he does not believe it should be addressed now.
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Just want to have fun's trade block has been updated!
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And also my two cents.
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I think rosters should be legal at all times, really, but definitely at the end of the regular season. I don't think we should have to monitor activations and real-team roster moves in the postseason and beyond. My two sense.
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I had some catching up to do on this discussion. I fall slightly toward the side that advocates HK cutting the extra players, with the idea in mind that we make expectations clear next year. And definitely, there should be flexibility for rosters with guys coming off DL.
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HK has won Ottoneu championships. He knows the rules. And I don't blame him for adding extra players. I'd do the same as him if the league chose to not enforce certain rules. But that doesn't mean it's a good precedent. The best leagues, including the Ottoneu Champions League, enforce this rule and there's no drama or debates or unfairness to any owner. If you still feel bad for HK, let's at least take Han Solo's suggestion and agree to enforce all the rules next season.
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I'm fine with Han Solo's solution. But I think having 6 extra trade chips is an advantage. If you think it's not, there should be no reason not to have him cut them. I guess I also don't understand the sympathy here. HK has been for years one of the best players in this league. He plays in at least 4 leagues and was in the top 4 in every one. He hasn't voiced any disagreement with enforcing this rule and it is enforced in at least one of his other leagues. Everyone else followed the rule
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I don't really mind for this year. I'ts already behind us. In this year's case, It's hardly a measurable "advantage" anyway. I do think that next year we should enforce owners to have legal rosters on the last day of the season. What FG is saying about 100-150 player auctions/rosters 20 players over limit is a possibility, and in that case it would be a sizable advantage for those teams.
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What's that I hear? Crickets? The league doesn't seem to care.
Coastal Empire on
November 13, 2016 1:24 AM
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Thanks Roy, but I'm done with the discussion. If it's unfair to enforce the rules, then they don't really mean anything. I'm asking that we put it to a vote and if the league doesn't care, that's fine. At least then we will know what rule our league wants to play by going forward as well.
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Mark your calendar for week of September 30, 2017 and remind the league then not to load up heading into the offseason.
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No need to Police teams. Just set an expectation and everyone will gladly comply next season. What happened this season's end has already passed. Does HK have an unfair advantage? To hell with that idea. Next year isn't this year. No one has an 100 man roster. No. I don't disagree that this is the rule, I just disagree with punishing HK: he probably comes from Ottoneu leagues where this rule isn't enforced. There's not a problem here. Making this retroactive would be unfair. Wait til next year.
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No, that makes no sense. It's the first rule in the rulebook to have a legal roster. Why should it even be a discussion?
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Is that fair or is that fair?
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