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Alright, y'all. All keepers have been added to Couch Managers. It only threw me an error on one player, who I added manually, so hopefully everything looks up to snuff. Please let me know if there are any issues with your team so I can remedy them ASAP.
If things look solid, we will plan on starting nominations on March 1. Thanks again for your cooperation!
@BuntSingles on
February 17, 2024 10:46 PM
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Still need two more managers to join the auction so I can port keepers over to Couch Managers. Please do so ASAP so we can address any potential missed keepers. Thanks!
@BuntSingles on
February 15, 2024 5:19 PM
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We are still waiting on four managers to join the slow auction.
Also, for those who haven't done so, please go into Couch Managers and change your team's name to your Ottoneu team name; this will make it easier for me to import our keepers before kicking the auction off.
@BuntSingles on
February 13, 2024 9:35 PM
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The password to join the auction is:
PD2024
@BuntSingles on
February 12, 2024 3:29 PM
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Once keepers have been assigned, I will post here again and ask each of you to ensure all your keepers have been imported correctly. I can manually assign any players who may have fallen through the cracks while importing the info from Ottoneu.
@BuntSingles on
February 12, 2024 3:26 PM
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Hi all,
Please go to couchmanagers.com and create an account if you do not have one yet.
After your account is created, please follow this link to join our auction draft:
https://www.couchmanagers.com/auctions/?auction_id=740
Claim any team you'd like: Once all managers have joined, I will import keepers and assign them to each team.
@BuntSingles on
February 12, 2024 3:24 PM
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Sorry to hear that, Jordan.
A slow draft is A-OK here. Looking forward to it. Thanks again for trying to make it work for all.
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Sorry to hear that, Jordan.
I'm looking forward to this draft. This could be my year.
Diamond Girl on
February 11, 2024 11:36 PM
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Yikes. Sorry to hear that unfortunate news, man. — I will echo that slow draft sentiment. It really, really is a lot easier than I expected when I did my first one for another league. The “ability to research a $1 bid guy” might be a drawback for sure, but the time commitment part is pretty manageable at least. I checked it like 30 minutes a day out of addiction to baseball, but you can get by with like two 5 minute checks a day probably. Let’s make the best of it on our way to another fun year!
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I will do my best to respond to any questions about this decision, but I also lost my job yesterday, so I hope everyone understands if I'm a bit slow to get back to you.
@BuntSingles on
February 11, 2024 8:16 PM
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Alright, everyone has submitted their responses, and we still do not have full availability for that weekend. We will be moving forward with a slow auction this year, and setting a firm date each year beyond that.
For those concerned about the time commitment for this: You will simply need to check the Couch Managers page 2-3 times a day to keep up with all new nominations. I would estimate that it will be about 15-ish minutes per day.
@BuntSingles on
February 11, 2024 8:03 PM
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I think Walk Off's idea re: the future is a good one. Speaking from experience, I'd also make the point that being a commish is a truly thankless role (for zero gain whatsoever!), so I would encourage anyone who thinks sorting this stuff out is straightforward to volunteer to assist Jordan. (Because it most definitely ain't.) If we can all make a date work, great, if not, one year of a slow auction before setting a date in stone doesn't seem like the end of the world to me. Just my two pence.
WAMCO Geckos on
February 9, 2024 3:00 AM
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https://forms.gle/C9sfTsssESrmeaMX6
Alright, if there's going to be this much pushback, the two dates in this poll are the closest we originally came to a consensus for a live auction.
If we cannot agree on one of these two dates then we will be moving forward with a slow auction.
I am doing my best here, but we have people spread across (I think) 5 time zones and two continents.
@BuntSingles on
February 8, 2024 9:14 PM
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As an 8% stakeholder I vote for setting a live auction next year, and every year after, on the last Saturday in March. I believe this ample time to request PTO or what have you. Also, consistent with years past and close to Opening Day where we are most up to speed. I am good with the couch managers for this year and understand there’s an underlying component of being engaged twice daily, which is similar to having success in this league anyway, because meeting position limits is time consuming!
Walk Off on
February 8, 2024 8:58 PM
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That being said I totally understand this is a difficult thing to arrange, and I appreciate all the work you put into this Commish.
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I agree with 7IS that this seems like a whole different kind of commitment. Setting aside a weekend day or weeknight to draft is one thing, but I've got a lot going on right now between more than usual work craziness and planning a wedding, I'd rather y'all draft without me than go through this ordeal. I'd hate to drop out of the league after all the time I've put into it lol, but I'd honestly have to think about it if this is the direction we're going in.
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I, too, understand if not. But I would like to reiterate my stance that I'm willing to use a proxy any of the days I can't make it. Couch Managers seems a little messy and a month-long draft could swallow my world whole. I don't want to come across as difficult I just want to express my flexibility and commitment to making a live draft work, with or without me.
Diamond Girl on
February 8, 2024 1:45 PM
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Are we definitely unable to make the original draft work then? Understand if not, but this seems like a whole different kind of commitment
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Those are the notes I made after my other league finished its draft last year. We drafted 170 players and it took 9-10 days with that structure. I'm not saying we should do the same or whatever, but that's just a reference point.
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**Draft Last Year Example**
Start: March 9, 9 am
Ended: March 18
Rules: 2 noms per team
12 hour time limit
Reset on new bid. No night pauses.
After ~50 players were drafted, we moved to 3 noms per team.
Limitations:
Position eligibility doesn't always match. And CM requires you to fill starter spots. So you might have Mookie to play SS but need to draft another if he isn't eligible on there.
CM has 40 man limit, so IL60 spots wi
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Perhaps a way to combat that is have more players nominated for auction at any given point? I did some brief reading and saw you can do 5-10 players at a time (or I guess more?). Changes the stakes somewhat — might mean folks need to be more strategic? I dunno.
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Thinking about loud here, but I think where the slow draft changes things a lot is towards the end of the draft where owners who are looking to build around cheap dollar guys and sneaky value, it changes the game a bit because, like, oh, who is this nobody someone is nominating for a buck because an owner did his homework? Let me look him up. Oh looky here, not on my watch brother: TEN BUCKS! :P
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It would be great to have some kind of benchmark from other Ottoneu leagues around how long a slow draft typically takes. Is this a 3 week thing? 2 weeks? 1 week? Probably impossible to gauge but would love to have a sense of what we're up against.
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Allo, allo! I'm curious to see how this plays out, especially with regard to starting before/during/after Spring Training. Is Manoah in the best shape of his life?!?! I NEED TO KNOW. Just want to chime in that I think we should get protocols in place asap so that we're all confident we understand how this will work and can prep our draft strategies with plenty of time to spare. And I think we should account for any unforeseen hiccups we will undoubtedly run into and start sooner than later.
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Thanks for being flexible, folks. I will follow up soon with details on how to get yourself set up inside Couch Managers.
@BuntSingles on
February 6, 2024 7:38 PM
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Thanks for this, Jordan. Makes sense to me — but as you say maybe formalizing an annual Auction Day so we can all plan around that in the future isn’t a bad idea. (Unless we all end up loving the slow format.)
WAMCO Geckos on
February 6, 2024 1:06 AM
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As someone who basically missed the draft last season (I think I drafted 1 player), I support the decision. I know we all love the draft day experience but it makes it rough if you have previous engagements. Hopefully this will be a whole month of draft day fun! I would also support a yearly set draft day, so we can get back to the live draft
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In the future, we could standardize the auction date so it’s a set number of weekends before the start of the season—maybe 2 weekends, or something like that.
That way we will be able to pinpoint the date the instant the following season’s schedule is set, and pivot as necessary.
@BuntSingles on
February 5, 2024 6:09 PM
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I support the decision. I very much would like us to try and find a live draft weekend for next year, but I don’t think it will be terrible to slow draft for one season.
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Alright, I’ve taken the afternoon to give it some thought:
To make sure everyone is able to participate, our auction this year will be a slow auction hosted through Couch Managers.
I understand the passion that those have for the strategy of the live auction, but think that you’ll find a slow auction offers engaging strategy of it’s own, while increasing accessibility for all league members.
Tentatively, the slow auction will start on Friday, March 1. More
@BuntSingles on
February 5, 2024 5:52 PM
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I do and I once again can’t read a calendar correctly. Or count.
@BuntSingles on
February 5, 2024 4:11 PM
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Just double-checking the dates, Jordan: do you mean Saturday, March 16 and Sunday, March 17?
WAMCO Geckos on
February 5, 2024 2:57 PM
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Good point, I didn't think of that. My vote remains strongly in favor of a live draft. I'm on a ski trip from the 10th to the 18th of February, which is why I said I couldn't do those weekends. However, I'm willing to skip a day of skiing to participate in the draft if I'm one of the people holding it up. Additionally, the other weekend I said I couldn't do it, I would be willing to find a proxy to draft for me. Thanks for your work on this Jordan.
Diamond Girl on
February 5, 2024 2:27 PM
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The dates of March 9th, March 15th, and March 16th are the dates we have the closest to complete availability.
If the folks who are unavailable for those dates can make it work we could still do a live auction; if not, I think the best path forward will be the slow auction.
@BuntSingles on
February 5, 2024 2:26 PM
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The issue with weekday nights (and why I feel it was a mistake to suggest them, on my part) is we have a manager in the UK, and I *really* don't want to tell them that they have to be up until 2 am to do the auction, as 6-9 pm EST is an 11 pm start time.
To add to that, I also just found out I may be changing jobs soon, and my schedule may require me to be available for events in the evening.
@BuntSingles on
February 5, 2024 2:21 PM
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I would really prefer a live auction. I would be interested in opening up weekday nights, as well as revisiting my schedule to make things work if I'm one of the issues.
Diamond Girl on
February 5, 2024 8:14 AM
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Sounds great, Jordan -- but would suggest we err on the side of starting earlier so we're definitely done in time (that said, I haven't done the math on open roster spots / how many days we'll likely need so...)
WAMCO Geckos on
February 5, 2024 2:01 AM
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Also, each manager will be able to nominate 2-3 players at any time (unless their roster is full, of course) meaning that we will be able to start this thing much closer to the first games of the year in Seoul.
@BuntSingles on
February 5, 2024 12:53 AM
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Durations for each auction would start at 12 hours, and every time a new high bid is placed, the timer would reset to 12 hours.
This should provide everyone ample time to put in bids on players they are interested in adding.
Once the clock runs out, the player will be added to the roster of the high bidder.
@BuntSingles on
February 5, 2024 12:50 AM
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May I ask what the bid durations are for a slow auction? Also, if we added Friday afternoon/evenings to the poll would it make any sort of difference?
Walk Off on
February 4, 2024 10:27 PM
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I love the live auction and I’d be happy to flex to make it work. But no worries here if we go the slow auction route. Thanks for organizing, Bunt.
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I’ve never done a slow auction — and would definitely miss the tension / fun / strategy of a real-time one — but think it would be interesting in a different way. And if it’s impossible to find a time when we’re all available, it’s probably the best option there is?
WAMCO Geckos on
February 4, 2024 3:38 PM
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I like doing a live auction for this league, but after being the one who almost had to miss last year’s because of scheduling conflict, I understand if we move to slow auction. I think it slightly changes dynamics (another league I am in does slow). So I am open to the slow auction as it does make it more manageable for everyone if there are scheduling conflicts.
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I'll give it a couple of days to gather opinions here before making a final decision, but please feel free to share any thoughts/concerns you may have.
@BuntSingles on
February 3, 2024 11:27 PM
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Hey there folks,
After receiving most of the league's responses for availability--thanks to each of you, by the way--it seems there are far too many scheduling conflicts due to work schedules, time zones, etc. to find a consensus on a date/time for a live auction.
If it would ease the pressure, I propose that we do a slow auction to fill out our rosters for this year. This will allow for a more drawn-out auction process that is easier to access for all parties involved.
@BuntSingles on
February 3, 2024 11:23 PM
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Sorry for the delay everyone!
Please copy + paste this link in your browser to fill out the Google Form so we can set our auction draft date:
https://forms.gle/BPfji2NK8xARWywAA
Once all responses are recorded I will follow up as necessary. Thanks!
@BuntSingles on
February 2, 2024 9:44 PM
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Alright, folks. A little less than 5 hours until the keeper deadline. At that point, rosters lock until the auction draft. If there's a player currently on a roster that you want to deal for, now's the time!
At some point tomorrow, I will post a link here on the message board with a link to a Google Form to help us set the date for our auction draft.
@BuntSingles on
January 31, 2024 7:11 PM
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Thanks for clarifying guys!
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appreciate the information! not the answer I was looking for, but at least I know the deal. TY!
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From someone in the know:
“The 60 day doesn't kick in until AFTER the auction. Even if you have a late auction and the 60 day is in effect for MLB, you can't go over 40 in the draft”
@BuntSingles on
January 30, 2024 3:41 PM
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