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I’ll also say it was reasonably possible that someone would’ve claimed Machado. This wasn’t dropping an injured player. I had zero doubt he’d either get claimed or picked up within 72 hours (24 waivers, 48 auction). I really think those roster restrictions are extreme enough that it doesn’t make sense to lock up your team much beyond 72 hours.
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I do think the benefits are overstated. No one would be holding out for a month: if you’re competitive, you lose too many ABs/IPs no matter how far out you set lineup (days off, rain, injury, etc.); if you’re out of contention, you blow your chance on rebuilding your roster. The restrictions are extreme—nothing, total lockdown.
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He gets short term loan without having to make some very painful cuts to his roster, which imo is a HUGE benefit. That benefit far outweighs not getting 3-4 games from Lindor.
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It is a salary cap. I could set my lineup for month, bid $26 on Machado, get him, and and be at $429 out of $403 for month? Then at the end of the month, if my team hasn't improved, I could just called it quits, function above the cap for the rest of the year and have a $26 Machado for next year.
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If there was no advantage, he wouldn't be in an illegal state. The temporary loan is the advantage. There are fewer advantages to being illegal for competing teams, but more to non competitive.
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It would seem to me that the rules allowing a team to be illegal indefinitely doesn't really give the team much of an advantage. In this case, gaussian can't play lindor until his team is legal so he's getting no benefit from the acquisition until the Machado auction is complete. He runs the risk of not getting those stats plus making any other moves and is hamstrung until someone puts up Machado. If he were able to play Lindor right away it would be another discussion but that's not the case.
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I agree, but just trying to make sure I understand what the current set of rules are.
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Maybe I do care. I don’t think at the owners discretion is in the spirit of the rules or a good idea. I go back to the red box that says fix immediately.
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So I could go over on Machado and stay illegal for a month?
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In other words, each owner can stay invalid at their discretion, correct?
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Kc and I are a few leagues together. My position on this at this point of the year is that Ottoneu locks the roster til it become legal. The team currently in question has a player acquired in the pickup on the bench with their roster locked. If anyone tho wants to make a motion for a change or amendment to the current way Ottoneu handles this situation we can put it up for a vote. Anyone with anything they want to try and change we can always vote on it. This league is run by all 12 of us.
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I have not cut him, partly because he would not be claimed at $85 and I was operating under the assumption that I couldn't wait for him to be reauctioned. Even though I am bringing this up, I don't have a strong opinion on what the league decides. I just ask for a decision, and I will abide by that decision.
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To be clear, this situation is fine. But this is a competitive league with lots of money at stake. In my opinion, the parameters need to be clear. How long are we going to allow a team to be illegal. The notice says to fix this immediately, and I think each league retains autonomy to make the decision. If we are going to allow big bids like this, and then cut a big contract, let the player clear waivers and then be re-auctioned, I want to know. Especially since I hold an injured Trout.
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Kc, u and I are both in a lot of ottoneu leagues. Some leagues have come up with additional rules in addition to the rules set forth by Ottoneu. This league is starting its third year and if anyone would like to motion for additional rules to be added for next year I will gladly put it up for a vote. I would just request a unanimous vote for any rule change during the year. Majority for the fall.
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I’ll comply with whatever the league decides, obviously. But it’s not against Otto rules and still carries some risk/cost. I’m blocked from bidding on Corbin, for instance, and would’ve liked to.
Am I understanding that all right?
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I am wondering about how long this league allows a team to stay illegal? My other leagues normally allow 48 hours, so that is the number I have used in here. Machado’s auction will end beyond that, obviously. Just wanting to know the limit because it can be a favorable strategy. So if you tell me I can stay illegal for 3-4days, I would use that number in the future. Thanks.
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Gaussian owes someone a thank you for that bailout.
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MY goodness we got a tight race going. Cheers to everyone!
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Taking Offers On JT, SNell and Luzardo if anyone is interested.
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I'm always buying if anyone is looking to sell
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Thanks for having me.
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Hey everyone- Just a quick heads up. We have a new owner that has taken over the Inebriated Conquistadors franchise. Welcome to the league!
LFGM ⚾️ on
April 9, 2021 4:06 PM
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What happened Florida everything ok?
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How did Rizzo and Bryant go for less than schwarber? Bananas
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Is it already over? Sorry I missed it.
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Daylight Saving Time Started today just a reminder for the draft. See everyone in 7 hours!
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Draft time is moved to a start time of 715 EST. If anyone has an issue with starting 15 mins later message me please. If not see everyone at 715.
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Any chance we could start tomorrow at 7:15? I'm sorry but I have something at work that ends at 7. Otherwise, I'll join you all when I can. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Date and time for the draft is set. I locked it in early to accommodate those who have multiple drafts. See everyone on the 14th....
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Florida man glad u are back and I think I speak for all of us when I say we are waiting for your team reviews. We have 6 weeks til we draft get writing Florida Man!
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sorry guys, i just paid. please continue sending awful trade offers
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We have one team that didn't pay. I am trying to reach him to see if he is coming back. He was ottoneu today. Hopefully I get him.
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Welcome! We play in 1010 together happy to have you!
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Hello everyone. I think I play in a few different leagues with various owners in here. Everyone on my team is available at the right price. I am particularly interested in deals that net me +1 pitchers. A hitter for a pitcher or one of my aces, Glasnow/Castillo, for 2-3 mid tier starters. If something like that peaks your interest, let me know. Glad to be in the league and hope to get know you all.
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Welcome to the league!
LFGM ⚾️ on
January 11, 2021 4:35 PM
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New Owner has taken over team Marv......Welcome Balboni!
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Marv was messaged on Nov 13 and it was read concerning Arb. Messaged again on the 14 and the message was unread as of today......No arb was filed by Marv.....
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Looking for a league opinion......Marv did not do Arb and I have not been able to get in contact with him. Do u think we should find a replacement now or wait til the Jan 31 deadline? Please post an opinion if u have one on the issue......
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I’m pretty flexible so good with anything
Pretzel on
January 9, 2021 1:33 PM
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This would be the first draft placed on my calendar so whatever works for the group is fine with me.
Do we have any potential time zone issues in this league? (east coast bias!)
LFGM ⚾️ on
January 8, 2021 9:53 AM
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Anything other than likely March 21-28 works for me.
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Draft day...Open to ideas Feb? March? I would like to set a date to help those guys who have multiple drafts the ability to set a schedule...Open to any date. Please post what u think works or message me.
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2021 Hall of Fame Vote
Hey Everybody, I setup a HoF ballot for this year to compare how my friends/family that are serious baseball fans vote compared to BBWAA. If you would like to vote, ballots are due January 9. More info here: https://forms.gle/pKLb5rbDACKdRbR6A
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If anyone is not coming back please let me know.
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I think u left $1 that u didn’t allocate. No worries.
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Uhh, I really apologize guys, I went through and did all my arb yesterday, no idea why it didn't stick in this league.
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Arb end in four days.... Just a heads up.
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Anyone not coming back please let me know. Looking forward to 2021.
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Thanks! Also huge props to vibber for taking over an empty squad and turning it into a contender in 1.5 seasons. Looking forward to a fun offseason.
LFGM ⚾️ on
September 28, 2020 2:42 PM
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Crazy, for sure. LFGM fending off the frantic comeback effort. ... Great season, all, and congrats to LFGM! Hope you're all safe and healthy and that we get something more typical next year. ... Go Brewers!
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