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Lol ask and you shall receive!
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I am open! Lol just going to be pretty picky.
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You should be open to the idea of making major moves, literally right now.
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Not really looking to make any major moves right now. But am always open to ideas.
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Lol just made a big one with Jeff in our other league
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Happy new year! Seconded Uncertain's comments. (also we're all waiting for your next trade, Geoff...)
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Happy New Year, y'all! I like having an active league message board that includes respectful banter and a few rants. Much better than quiescent inactivity. And I'm looking for any excuse to talk baseball during the off season. So keep it rowdy, Geoff!
Black Swan 🦢 on
January 1, 2020 5:27 PM
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Happy new year to all, don't worry Spirits, you were right, I regret that trade since I made it but I guess what is done is done, I just hope Casty and Santana will have career years and Adell and May don't make me look too bad.....can'ty wait for the baseball training camps to begin
Double Up ✌️ on
January 1, 2020 1:55 AM
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Happy New year to everyone. Hope my message board antics haven't caused everyone to hate me lol
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Thanks for all the work guys and Happy New Year to all, health, peace and love to everyone and oh yes many RBI's and HR
Double Up ✌️ on
December 31, 2019 12:45 PM
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Hey All! A couple notes: 1) make sure to re-new your team so you don't get automatically booted from the league 2) ONE MONTH LEFT in trading season! let's get dealing 3) wishing everyone a happy and safe NYE. we look forward to our 2020 season!
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Seuly Matias has been dropped from MiLB list by Big Papi
Double Up ✌️ on
December 14, 2019 9:12 AM
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hey all! in an effort to be fully transparent, we just wanted to let everyone know that we are willing to move Soto, but would have to be blown away by an offer. he's been added to our block, but wanted to make our expectations of moving him clear. thanks!
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I think more communication is always better. If I'm shopping players, it's always best to update my trade block or even send a message that players are available. Then it's shame on everyone else for not communicating. But that can be hard when you receive an offer. If someone sends an offer that I like, I risk losing the deal if I start openly messaging to the league searching for a better deal. It can be tricky at times.
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Thanks for chiming in, Serge. It's always useful to hear the logic behind the deal. For all owners, just a reminder to maintain open communication with the rest of the owners on the assets you're thinking about moving, as you never know how a guy will be valued. Thanks all for the discussion, we're looking forward to a continued active offseason!
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I need help, think I'm on a dynasty destructive path, traded Biggio, Adell and May in the same week.....nah just joking gut a bunch of players I like (Soler, Abreu, Casty, Santana (a little less) and a few SP). The future will say...........this is fun......... I think
Double Up ✌️ on
November 26, 2019 12:07 AM
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After reading all of your comments, my turn to give my input on my trade with Beliebers. First of all, I am not a big fan of Adell (I know I'm going against all experts but that's what I feel, we will see in the future....where is the speed.....where is the power). On the other hand, I really love Casty. Actually, I should of kept my stand on the 4th player that I asked for in this trade. May / Adell for Casty, Gonsolin and Santana.....hum, would I do it again, probably but for one more guy
Double Up ✌️ on
November 25, 2019 11:59 PM
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And agree overall, more communication can help. But it's ultimately going to come down to individual engagement mixed with personal quantitative/qualitative assessments. Will always be challenging to get consensus on value but good to point out ways to improve the league and make it more competitive for future moves.
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Discussion around the trade is definitely good. And if someone felt it was veto-worthy I wouldn't have issues. The different valuations/preferences are important in making trades happen though (and keeping the league fun) otherwise we'd all be trying to win the same way. The majority of trades as one off transactions don't really shift the league in significant ways and are almost impossible to evaluate real time anyways. I could see the Casty side out earning my return this season.
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Jeff/Drew, your suggestion is really a good one. We could solve a lot of these issues if we all used the trade block to signal the league when we are taking offers on a key asset (e.g., Jo Adell). Everyone uses the trade block a little differently (if at all). But perhaps we could flag players that we are actively taking offers on with an asterisk (*), or use the general notes at the top of their trade block post…? I think we should strongly encourage this type of communication. Thoughts...?
Black Swan 🦢 on
November 25, 2019 4:08 PM
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I'm probably being unnecessarily salty because I highly value Jo Adell and Dustin May and it's my own fault for not acquiring them. But I do think it's nice to have at least some critical evaluation of trades as well.
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as commissioners, we definitely appreciate the active discussion on the message board. like prospect theory started to get at, we don't want to get in the habit of vetoing trades as we never want to discourage moves. i think moving forward we just encourage more intra-league communication and feedback on proposals so that teams do know what the market for a player is like.
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I’m not one to complain on trades, and don’t believe in vetoing unless truly egregious. But I’d be lying if I said my stomach didn’t sink when I saw that trade. Let’s be honest, many of us would have given a lot more surplus value to land Jo Adell at $9--but we didn’t offer. And again, Adam, well done. You’ve exhibited some mad skills on trading for talent. It’s just discouraging to those of us chasing you, that’s all…
Black Swan 🦢 on
November 25, 2019 2:24 PM
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I own a $25 casty in two other leagues and if I get that type of return for him i'll be the first to let you know.
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It's fine, I don't mean to sound like a dick. I'm just trying to point out that lopsided offers move leagues in the wrong direction and think it's worth offering feedback when I see a deal i think is quite lopsided. I guarantee if you move adell and may separately you'd get more in return.
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Casty has been a top 20 outfielder one time. And had 8 ppg with the cubs over 50 games, if you think he's going to be 7 ppg next year the deal is ok. If he's 6 ppg you're basically giving up two really good assets for the type of player that can be found in the auction without giving up two of your best assets.
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I don’t think it’s that bad
Vacant Team ⚾ on
November 25, 2019 12:26 PM
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Fair enough, I can see it that way. Just pointing out other perspectives, particularly it's not a given that prospects realize potential and that if you want to pull your competitive window up this may not be so awful a trade if it addresses needs. Also had quite a bit of interest in Casty from other leaguemates.
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If you think danny santana is going to be that again get me some of what you're drinking.
Basically you just traded a good OF probably market price who had his best season ever for two really good assets for the next 3 years. I think any of the other teams in this league would take your side in a heartbeat. Even when considering league dynamics.
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I think our league dynamics come into play here a bit. Casty may not have huge surplus, but he's somewhat underrated as a top 20 OF and is a consistent performer in his prime (16th in total points, surprisingly shallow position). Santana is a useful piece if he can repeat at even 5 PPG. Adell looks awesome, but $9 for a prospect who isn't in the majors yet. May is a solid prospect as well but also fairly unproven. I wouldn't necessarily call it an awful trade, just depends on needs/perspective.
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Beliebers comes out way on top on that. You need to shed salary and just got two of the best young players in the game at surplus. Casty is fine but not at a surply. Danny Santana is coming off a career year and has no ceiling compared to Adell and May. And then Gonsolin at 10 is just a straight up cut.
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In which regards? Constructive feedback please...
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That's an awful trade.
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Hey all, happy post-arb offseason! We are looking forward to an active offseason of trading. Just to give some guidance: planning to do our offseason MiLB draft after the January Keeper deadline, but before our real draft which will once again be in Feb/March (only one session needed this time). Just as an FYI, the January 31 cut date will also act as our MiLB cut deadline. As always hit us up with questions, but more importantly hit us with trade proposals :)
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Reminder to everyone to get their arb finalized by Thursday!
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Thanks for all the good work you guys did
Double Up ✌️ on
October 30, 2019 10:35 AM
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It's official. All of the managers from season 1 will be returning for season 2 of Bat Flips Encouraged! That's probably not something that happens too often, so thanks for everyone being committed to the league and we look forward to a fun and active offseason after the arb period ends. Now enjoy game 7, get your arb dollars spent, then get the trade proposals ready!
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I'm in, can't abandon my selling everything for next year team!
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I'll be back.
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If any teams are not planning to return for next season, please let us know ASAP as we will need to find new managers prior to the arb process. Thanks!
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Congrats to the Adam, Mike, and Nate for taking the top 3 spots in Season 1 of Bat Flips Encouraged. As Drew mentioned, there were some hiccups this year and I want you to know those were all him (kidding). Thanks for being patient with us as we learn how to build this new league. We want to make this last a long time and one that people continue to enjoy each year. We are open to hearing feedback over the offseason, just don't be too mean bc Drew and I are sensitive :) - Jeff
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Thanks to everyone for their continued participation, activity, and involvement throughout the season! It was my first time being commissioner, and while there were some hiccups, I really enjoyed it and look forward to another fun season next year. Appreciate everyone's patience through the season. Looking forward to an exciting offseason!
- Drew
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Agreed, congrats Beliebers! Now on to my favorite part, cutting half of these scrubs....
Vacant Team ⚾ on
September 30, 2019 10:32 AM
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Congrats Beliebers. You put this one away at the trade deadline.
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Same from me, congrats to the winners for a great season and thumbs up to Jeff and Drew for this exciting league with a MiLB option, really fun league
Double Up ✌️ on
September 30, 2019 8:24 AM
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Congratulations Adam, well-done on a strong inaugural season! And Mike, too, great team and great season. I’d also like to second Adam’s shout out to Jeff and Drew—thanks guys for running a super-fun league. Whew! On to the offseason…
Black Swan 🦢 on
September 30, 2019 1:18 AM
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Thank you very much drew and Jeff. We get a break now but can't wait to start trading and arb!
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Thank you thank you. And congrats to Jersey and Uncertain. I think a serious shout out to the commissioners is deserved right now, really fun season and excellent job putting together and managing the league! Also, great job across the league, everyone stayed competitive and active to the end. I think we had one of the best spreads in Otto. Looking forward to an active offseason and taking on all you challengers again in 2020...
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Congrats to the beliebers.
Pomme Frites 🍟 on
September 29, 2019 8:07 PM
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Congrats to Adam he really worked the buy sell dynamic to the max. Looking forward to 2020
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