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Just another reminder to everyone that tonight at 8ET is the draft. I'll give the standard 5 minute courtesy wait, but will be starting after that.
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SOON!
WAR Horse 🦄 on
February 12, 2015 8:21 AM
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TONIGHT
Catz on
February 12, 2015 12:25 AM
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48 hours
Catz on
February 10, 2015 8:39 PM
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Just a reminder to all that the draft is Thursday at 8PM ET.
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I even have a bunch of team name puns ready depending who I draft!
Catz on
February 9, 2015 9:50 PM
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I'm too antsy for this auction. I got my watch list ready, my spreadsheets loaded up, the draft is too far away!
Catz on
February 9, 2015 9:23 PM
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+1
Catz on
February 7, 2015 6:22 PM
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Im pretty uptight about it
WAR Horse 🦄 on
February 7, 2015 4:54 PM
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GIven the responses, it sounds like no one is too uptight about excluding players not in the pool from being drafted. If someone is on a team and you want to draft them (as Tom mentioned, this happens occasionally) please let Niv know and he will add them.
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After going back and forth, I think my two cents is that I'm ok with "replacement" players if the guy being targeted has signed with an MLB team but is not in the draft pool, which has happened on occasion. I'm less comfortable with a player who hasn't officially signed with a team, but in that case, I'd definitely want to stick to Joe's rule of an officially cleared player. That would exclude say, guys still under contract to a NPB team or 16 year old high-school pre-draftees.
Catz on
February 6, 2015 10:25 PM
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If a player isnt in the Ottoneu universe, he cant be drafted. Seems pretty easy to keep that rule straight to me.
Bo Hunters 🏹 on
February 6, 2015 6:22 PM
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Although since I essentially have no money I'd probably be better served if we waited!
One O' Cat on
February 6, 2015 5:01 PM
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I'd love to draft Moncada...and if we want to limit the discussion to him then that makes sense. If, however, we are going to start using replacement names for lots of other players I think it wold be a mistake.
One O' Cat on
February 6, 2015 5:01 PM
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I was only mentioning this in case someone wanted to draft these guys. If no one wants too. Then we can leave them. That's not a problem.
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Yeah, again this has nothing to do with "what other leagues do." I am just mentioning that it is an option in case anyone wanted to draft guys like this. No worries if everyone would rather not have them available. Shields and Moncada are different in that Shields has played in the big leagues whereas Moncada has not. I agree with that. They are not different in that both are unrestricted free agents cleared to sign with any team they choose at any time.
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Um, Shields and Moncada are very different cases. Shields has been an MLB player for a while...but might remain unsigned like Kendrys Morales this. Can we put this to a vote? What other leagues do shouldn't necessarily affect this league...No?
SSS Fluke on
February 6, 2015 3:16 PM
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Yes, we absolutely can wait. This isn't me trying to push a change in any way. I just wanted to make it an option to everyone. (We did the same thing with Soler/Cespedes a few years back). I brought it up to avoid anyone thinking we would do the same thing again, and try to draft a replacement level player as the actual player when everyone wasn't aware what the league stance was.
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I agree with Tanaka, but I see where this is going with so many players flying up in the air right now. I'm sure Moncada will become available 10 mins after he signs...so we can all wait, right?
SSS Fluke on
February 6, 2015 3:15 PM
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Well it's really easy to maintain if the stipulation is "Has to be an MLB Free Agent." Which excludes the guys like Maeda/Olivera. Think of it this way. James Shields is a free agent. He isn't associated with a team. He can still be signed. Moncada is basically the same thing. If it's a couple of players It doesn't bother me (especially because if they are FAs then they are signing soon). In the champions league we are doing a complete off roster MLB system (in addition to the current system).
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I agree with Tanaka, but I see where this is going with so many players flying up in the air right now. I'm sure Moncada will become available 10 mins after he signs...so we can all wait, right?
SSS Fluke on
February 6, 2015 3:10 PM
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I personally don't see any reason we need to be drafting players not on a MLB franchise. If Moncada doesn't sign soon, we'll start an auction when he does. No harm done.
Cow Ripkens 🐄 on
February 6, 2015 3:01 PM
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If for some reason Joe leaves the league there would be no way for new commish or owners to know what the replacement players were supposed to stand for.
One O' Cat on
February 6, 2015 2:50 PM
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Niv has recently changed the rules so that u cannot draft a player unless he is associated with a MLB team. Back in 2011 this rule was not in place, and I drafted Yu Darvish the spring before he posted in the fall. I tried to do the same thing last spring with Kenta Maeda, and when draft time came around I asked Niv to add him to the player pool. He then told me of the rule change. I would STILL like to add Maeda, as well as try and get Moncada, but think we should probably stick w Otto rules.
One O' Cat on
February 6, 2015 2:50 PM
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The situation I am less okay with is the "Anyone not in the pool can be drafted" stance. That's a very slippery slope. Hello random 16 yr olds, Japanese players who may never post, Cubans who may never defect, or college sophomores. I don't want to open that can of worms.
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All this being said, we do not need to use any replacement players. We can wait till the players sign and just treat them as regular free agents. I just wanted to bring this up ahead of time to get out in front of this.
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An example for Moncada: http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/100/playercard?id=13401
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We'll pick someone who no one would ever draft... then whoever drafts "random player x" actually drafts Moncada (or anyone else in this scenario - the rules is not limited to him).
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Which would apply to Moncada. However, by the same logic Hector Olivera would not be eligible to be drafted because he has not been declared a Free Agent by MLB. I would also suggest that all players whom are eligible to be drafted through the "replacement player" method must be declared pre-draft. Thoughts?
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How do we swing that? Who's replacing Moncada for example? Vlad Guerrero who is still in the system?
SSS Fluke on
February 6, 2015 2:29 PM
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Okay guys. Open discussion time. I want to get this out of the way now, instead of risking that we have an issue with this when the draft is in progress. What are your thoughts on using replacement players for players who are FAs but have not signed (Moncada for example). My thoughts are that there has to be a division between who is and is not allowed a "replacement player". I see this division as "The player has been cleared to sign with a major league team."
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All, just a reminder with the draft on the 12th that the auction is open. Everyone should enter the draft and add players to their watchlist.
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Just saw a random tweet "I love Allie." Clearly someone was talking about my Cano trade and not their BFF Alison.
Catz on
February 3, 2015 12:37 AM
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You've Been Friedman'd's trade block has been updated!
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Just a quick shout out, if anybody is into tools and advice like this, the ottoneu Slack group (ottoneucommunity.slack.com) is a great resource. There's a feed with a bunch of useful planning tools, and tons of really experienced owners who can chime in with advice. A handful of us in this league are already on there and it's a really fun and informative group.
Catz on
February 2, 2015 2:56 PM
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Yeah, I don't do all 12. I can guess the "best tier" of teams pretty easily. Plugging them in gives me an idea of what I'm shooting for. Really it's 3-4 teams that I'll enter in all leagues.
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yeah, i think i could do 1 team but 12 seems like a lot
Bo Hunters 🏹 on
February 2, 2015 1:49 PM
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If you just want your own team, the tool still works great. You just ignore other teams rosters.
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If anyone does want to use that tool, I would recommend just using the 3yr Avg. as the PPG/PPIP inputs. Much more unbiased that way. You can either enter every other team, or just your own... I typically just enter the top 3-4 teams I see as competitors in addition to my own.
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we have to manually enter in every teams depth chart?
Bo Hunters 🏹 on
February 2, 2015 1:17 PM
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That uses three year averages for players, but it is close enough to Steamer to get a general idea. You can also input your own PPG/PPIP values from steamer should you like.
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Here's a good tool: https://ottoneutraderumors.wordpress.com/2014/11/26/2015-roster-grid/
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anyone know where to get 2015 projection spreadsheets where we can simulate the season based upon steamer?
One O' Cat on
February 2, 2015 11:50 AM
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Grumble Grumble's trade block has been updated!
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February 1, 2015 4:53 PM
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February 1, 2015 4:38 PM
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February 1, 2015 12:09 PM
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Hector Santiago Gets A Ring's trade block has been updated!
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