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• Short week since it's All-Star week. Deadline for deals is Thursday.
  Gyro Step at Feb 12, 2024 12:06 PM
• I should have suspected something. It was stupid to have both the basketball trade deadline and the baseball keeper deadline on the same day. Turns out, they weren't. Deals are deals. I would vote to not reverse them.
  Otto Twenty-Two at Jan 31, 2024 9:21 PM
• Good to know but I doubt many of us scroll through the rules page to find the trade deadline date when it's plastered across the top of the home page
  Trust the Process at Jan 31, 2024 8:28 PM
• The banner was wrong but the date didn't change. The calendar and the rules pages both had it as the last day of February
  Tatum's Taters at Jan 31, 2024 7:53 PM
• Wow hadn’t even seen the change. That is not a great look. What a mess.
  Trust the Process at Jan 31, 2024 7:44 PM
• Sorry busy day today. That's quite the chaos changing the date. Open to cancelling our deal.
  Gyro Step at Jan 31, 2024 7:29 PM
• So many leagues thought the deadline was today. Tons of premature deals.
  Otto Twenty-Two at Jan 31, 2024 7:12 PM
• double oops my brain had it right, deadline is not today. more time for y'all to get the rest of my players :) https://community.ottoneu.com/t/basketball-trade-deadline-incorrect/13904
  Tatum's Taters at Jan 31, 2024 2:23 PM
• Not me not realizing that the baseball and basketball deadlines are the same...oops
  Tatum's Taters at Jan 30, 2024 7:50 PM
• I'm still open to moving Porzingis, Tobias, Garland, and Dinwiddie. However, I'm not particularly looking to make a 4 for 1 deal right now as my roster is pretty full of prospects. Anything there would have to include an upgrade on my prospects (am open to sending someone back to balance it out that way). Mostly looking for guards as I'm pretty flush with forwards and solid enough at center.
  
  All that said I probably won't get much done here until after the ottoneu baseball keep / cut deadline that's Wednesday night lol
  Tatum's Taters at Jan 29, 2024 6:29 PM
• I can see the frustration from Pacers but have no problem at all with the trade. Definitely makes it feel hard to win, but I also feel that's the beauty of otto. As rubble said, the two ways to win in this are to really fire sale for the future when your team is out of the playoffs or to be highly active in the trade market. Anyone can trade and draft studs with high price tags, but the way you win are the senguns for 20$ or jalen johnsons for 2$, which in my opinion are the most highly sought after trade targets. Trust the Process will be a major threat next year, and nothing but for respect for Rubble. imo, trading is the most fun part of fantasy
  Bahston Accents (pts) at Jan 11, 2024 6:26 AM
• This was a good discussion. Pacers voiced what everyone first feels when these types of trades occur. It is fair to question when does a trade become lopsided? Sure, there is future value coming, but what if a 4th player had been sent back? A 5th?
  
  And then the involved parties calmly described their rationale (all valid) and included data.
  
  I would like to validate both parties: Pacers for raising the questions and Rumble and Trust for providing the rationale. It is this type of dialogue that will be the best defense against lopsided trades.
  Stick Men at Jan 11, 2024 6:02 AM
• I’m 29-15 in the first two seasons of this league and this will be the first season I don’t make the playoffs, so I don’t think the issue is that I don’t know how to compete.
  
  Unfortunately this season, for a variety of reasons, I find myself with the 7th best team in a 6-team race, a few weeks out from the trade deadline. The rational thing to do is to trade present value for future value.
  
  In my opinion there have certainly been a few terrible present value for future value trades over the course of this league’s first three seasons, but I have a hard time seeing how this is one of them. As far as I can tell, Sengun is the most valuable asset ever acquired by a “selling team” in one of these trades, and I am happy to acquire Ja and Cody Williams as secondary pieces. I’m giving up three very good players, but I was unlikely to keep any of them for next season and I did not believe I would get better value for them in the offseason when I could not offer a loan. (Note that a loan, when used correctly, is as beneficial to the rebuilding/selling team as it is to the competing/buying team - it is just the mechanism that facilitates exchanges of present value for future value in Ottoneu.) If anyone would have offered me a better package for my three guys, I’d love to hear about it.
  Trust the Process at Jan 11, 2024 3:58 AM
• I’m sorry you feel that way. Sengun is gonna average 50/pg next year at a huge discount. I’m still sad about giving him up. Ja can easily do the same healthy and Cody Williams is a top 10 pick who’s older bro is Jalen Williams. No one ripped anyone off.
  
  Walter and Kweth both are dominating this year due to the fruits of their prospects and/or acquisitions of low cost studs.
  
  Green Altoids and Stick Men are frequently trying to access the trade market as well.
  
  I know I overdue it with trades a lot of the time but I love that aspect of playing. It makes you feel like you’re constructing the team of your dreams. That’s just my tidbit. Take it as you wish.
  Gyro Step at Jan 11, 2024 1:55 AM
• How do you ever expect to compete in these leagues if you guys loan money(really increasing their salary cap) to these guys who are ripping you off, and everyone else? They just drop the high price players in the off-season and start doing it all over again the next year, or they drop this league and move to a new bunch of rubes. We just keep donating to them.
  Rebuilders at Jan 11, 2024 12:39 AM
• What a start to the season! Five 4-1 teams and all close in points as well. Should be a competitive ROS. Good luck to all!
  Gyro Step at Nov 27, 2023 1:44 PM
• Update: We are good to go for the season! Everyone has renewed!
  Gyro Step at Nov 7, 2023 2:58 PM
• Looks like everyone renewed except for Rumble Kongs who also hasn't been on since Halloween. We might have a spot open if they don't renew by today's deadline, just FYI to all.
  Gyro Step at Nov 7, 2023 11:01 AM
• Season starts tomorrow!
  Gyro Step at Oct 23, 2023 11:11 AM
• Just FYI, moved us to just 2 conferences, not that it really changes anything since the top 6 still make it, but for cosmetic purposes feel like it aligns more now with NBA standings page we most typically see.
  Gyro Step at Oct 10, 2023 2:54 PM
• Anddd were done! Good luck all and thanks everyone for attending!
  Gyro Step at Oct 9, 2023 10:39 PM
• Yup today in just under 2 hours.
  Gyro Step at Oct 9, 2023 6:20 PM
• I'll be there!
  Bahston Accents (pts) at Oct 9, 2023 5:55 PM
• Draft day!!! We still set for 5pm PDT?
  Tatum's Taters at Oct 9, 2023 4:06 PM
• Yup, new owner messaged me on the community and will be sending me list in couple days of players they'll cut.
  
  Also looks like Oct 9 at 5pm PT is the time that works best even after more teams filled out poll. Sorry KS.
  Gyro Step at Sep 27, 2023 4:35 PM
• Looks like grassroots filled and we have a full league?!
  Bahston Accents (pts) at Sep 27, 2023 7:21 AM
• That was the time that so far everyone that filled it out worked. I just set it at that as of now to give everyone an idea. I updated the poll and will email soon to make sure everyone fills out.
  Gyro Step at Sep 26, 2023 7:36 PM
• Is the current date and time for the draft set in stone? I'm probably not free until 6 pm Pacific Time on that Monday. Sorry I didn't fill out the thing until today.
  Livin LaVida LaVine at Sep 26, 2023 6:14 PM
• Let’s see if this works…. Link for draft date time… https://whenisgood.net/kymj7k7
  Gyro Step at Sep 22, 2023 3:52 AM
• Definitely.
  Gyro Step at Sep 17, 2023 4:18 PM
• Can we offer penalty-free cuts to an owner taking over Grassroots?
  3-point Layup at Sep 16, 2023 4:19 PM
• Woo! Looks like everyone got under the cap and made their cuts. We do have one team open however so hopefully we can fill before draft sometime next month.
  Gyro Step at Sep 16, 2023 3:07 PM
• i'm in. Might be my last year. I'm terrible at these Ottoneu auction fantasy leagues. But I'm in for this year.
  Livin LaVida LaVine at Sep 14, 2023 3:41 PM
• Sent Salmon a message, we'll see if they are coming back. No word on a replacement. I've been posting to reddit but no takers so far. If anyone knows anyone. Feel free.
  Gyro Step at Sep 12, 2023 1:43 PM
• is king salmon still in? looks like hasn't looked since march
  Bahston Accents (pts) at Sep 11, 2023 5:37 PM
• It looks like Grassroots abandoned their team. Any word on a replacement?
  
  https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/basketball/available_teams
  Tatum's Taters at Sep 11, 2023 4:50 PM
• Don't forget to make your cuts before Friday's deadline. We have 4 squads right now that are over the cap.
  
  I'll be sending out a poll soon to see what day works best for drafting.
  
  Thanks!
  Gyro Step at Sep 11, 2023 3:33 PM
• Would love to make some deals before the deadline next Friday! hmu
  Tatum's Taters at Sep 8, 2023 2:27 PM
• In
  Gyro Step at Jul 15, 2023 12:01 AM
• Also in
  Stick Men at Jul 11, 2023 2:39 PM
• in
  Tatum's Taters at Jul 11, 2023 2:08 PM
• Ready to roll
  Rumble Kongs at Jul 10, 2023 10:42 AM
• also in
  Bahston Accents (pts) at Jul 10, 2023 10:37 AM
• I'm in.
  Otto Twenty-Two at Jul 10, 2023 10:11 AM
• Do we have 12 active owner commitments for this (off) season?
  3-point Layup at Jul 10, 2023 8:17 AM
• I'm in a new startup dynasty bballl 30$ league on sleeper. Hopeful to start slow draft this Thursday. Message me if interested.
  Bahston Accents (pts) at Jun 26, 2023 9:37 AM
• One more day of arb! Let's have everyone do it...ottoneu leagues are a lot more fun when it gets done, imo
  Tatum's Taters at May 30, 2023 5:32 PM
• One week left of arbitration!
  Gyro Step at May 24, 2023 12:35 PM
• Arbitration Season! Make sure to take advantage! Also if you don't plan on returning feel free to message me and let me know. Happy Offseason!
  Gyro Step at May 3, 2023 12:47 PM
• Thanks all! Great season for sure. I just saw the updates thread and Niv plans to shorten to a 20-week season next year instead of the entire NBA season. It really made endings super weird with this final week of the season playoff battle. Hope to see everyone next season! Take care!
  Gyro Step at Apr 10, 2023 11:54 AM