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Nikola Galactica lmao
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 27, 2024 8:45 PM -
If my team was good, I'm sure I"d be furious. But, it isn't so I'm all aboard.
Magnum Rollers at Feb 27, 2024 6:24 PM -
"Chaos is a ladder" ~Petry Baelish
Nikola Galactica at Feb 27, 2024 5:35 PM -
I haven't read all this, sorry. I'm having a great time. After the trade deadline I thought it would be boring and then my team dropped a couple close ones (after previously flukishly winning close ones) so I had nothing going on. Now all of a sudden there are all these players available and teams are having to make decisions about what they want to do about it. I don't know if this is a viable strategy that you'd want to adjust the rules in order to temper, but it certainly creates a lot of decision points in an otherwise bland stretch of the season. That guy dropped Jokic and suddenly he has all this money and there are a ton of interesting free agents. Maybe he's a savant.
Magnum Rollers at Feb 27, 2024 4:53 PM -
Oh wow. Trace Jackson Davis up for bid! Never thought Iβd see the day!
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 27, 2024 3:27 PM -
Totally ok to voice how you feel. Itβs not unusual or anything.
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 27, 2024 11:53 AM -
I don't mean to push back I just don't want to lose another player who's actively involved. I hate when people aren't setting their lineups and are gone in the month of February and March. This owner is actually trying to get better and I feel like we're pushing them out the door that's my only reason for pushing back and I apologize for being frustrated
Rippin Nylon π at Feb 27, 2024 9:54 AM -
It certainly is a very nuanced issue to me (maybe not everyone). So it's pretty tough to state what exactly is perfectly fair or right.
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 27, 2024 9:53 AM -
Thanks for your thoughts, Nylon. I hear what you are saying. I'm not getting the impression that everyone here is super mad or anything. Just differences in opinion. I think things are the way we are and we can all do our best to adjust to what has happened. While it's unorthodox we all have an opportunity to claim the cut players if we are willing to cut stars of our own. It certainly is an unprecedented situation but I think if we all try to take in it stride, we will be ok!
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 27, 2024 9:52 AM -
Ignorance of the rules and non competitive are terms we are throwing out cmon yall really?
Rippin Nylon π at Feb 27, 2024 9:10 AM -
He is 1-5 since he took over. Trae just got hurt! The team was either in third or fourth place when he took over. He's been falling fast what's he supposed to do sit on 144 Joker and wait till auction or get a bunch of trade offers that aren't going to give him the value he could get by cutting him. He is actively trying to get better for next year and youre all trashing him for it. This is particularly frustrating.
Rippin Nylon π at Feb 27, 2024 9:07 AM -
my main issue is with a team sitting sixth tanking. the rest of it is fine.
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 27, 2024 8:57 AM -
Hopefully Jokic doesn't shred his ACL tonight.
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 27, 2024 8:33 AM -
Please reach out if you have thoughts, we will listen but don't expect any reversals at this point. Let's try and battle the rest of this season out and we'll see where we get.
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 27, 2024 8:33 AM -
FINAL LINE: Been texting Hield about this and here's where we'll stand.
1) Because the original Jokic cut was made in good-faith and in an attempt to be competitive, it will not be reversed. Ignorance of the rules is not a reason for reversal in our opinion.
2) I believe it does notify you before finalizing cuts if your roster will be valid or not. Because of that, Galactica, unfortunately yours will have to stand as well.
3) Since the original Jokic cut will not be reversed, the resulting scrum will stand.
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 27, 2024 8:32 AM -
ah. Misread the rule there. Well that hurts the build but a full reset next year with Jokic trade after the draft for everything and more since he's probably worth $180 in this format with limited games a week makes more sense then losing Jojo and Tatum for nothing to cuts.
Nikola Galactica at Feb 27, 2024 8:08 AM -
Hate to enforce this but you need to cut more Galactica. If weβre gonna go through this big reset on we do need to keep our teams valid at the very least.
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 27, 2024 8:05 AM -
Now that I know that the cuts were intentional and done with a full understanding of how the auction system works, I'm in favor of letting them stand. My general preference would be that these sorts of huge cuts don't happen often, because they tend to lead to dramatically below-market prices for the teams that can participate in the ensuing rounds of auctions. And this is a pretty dramatic shakeup so close to the playoffs, especially for a team like mine that has limited options to dramatically shed salary. But I can see Helliburton's logic and just because I dislike these moves (for my own selfish reasons), it doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed. Just my thoughts.
Bennie and the Chets at Feb 27, 2024 4:11 AM -
Iβm genuinely unsure what to do here: I can see it from both sides and seems people feel differently. Should we put it to a vote?
NIV, do you have a recommendation based on league precedent?
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 27, 2024 12:01 AM -
Eh, I guess it is a strategy that could work out. I mean cutting Trae especially makes sense. And yeah, every player on my team might be on the waivers in two days, so maybe it does work out for you.
Nikola Galactica at Feb 26, 2024 9:11 PM -
Trae Young is essentially ruled out for the rest of our season. Realizing I only have a handful of high usage players and would mostly likely start dipping in the standings anyway, my rationale was that 1 player(albeit the most valuable) was less valuable than having depth. So I did it to see if I could claim any players off of waivers that other teams were cutting or just have cash for the next season.
I apologize for breaking everything.
Full of Hell-iburton at Feb 26, 2024 9:09 PM -
Alright, so, if post-hoc Commissioner decisions *are* on the table, then, and we're not purely by the book of the Ottoneu Constitution, then the best move for the league is probably to undo the cuts in all honesty. That's my opinion at least. The move isn't a viable one.
Nikola Galactica at Feb 26, 2024 9:02 PM -
Agreed. Need to get under cap. You also get locked out of even setting lineups so your team is completely useless.
It's Darko and Hell is Hot at Feb 26, 2024 8:58 PM -
when the commissioner wrote " I'm sure no one is considering doing this but just a friendly reminder, if you decide to go after Jokic or Trae, you still must cut until your roster is valid. You cannot take him unless you are willing to go to cut town, population, your team. " i think that means you need to get legal immediately.
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 26, 2024 8:55 PM -
I was always under assumption if you go over cap you immediately have to cut and get legal. That's how all my leagues are except one.
Rippin Nylon π at Feb 26, 2024 8:53 PM -
So yeah, I don't really need an answer right away since I'm going to try to get him for a little less in the auction, but am I allowed to have the team in an illegal state thru end of the season and simply suffer the no-other-auction-add consequences? usually it'd be a bad idea but for Jokic at what feels like a great price... yeah.
And maybe this is all a double bluff to get someone to bid $143!
Nikola Galactica at Feb 26, 2024 8:48 PM -
Full transparancy, I don't think I can necessarily run my team next year with a new job so I might have a foot out already, but I am trying to position this team well in case.
But I don't see anything in the constitution that makes it illegal for, say, me to simply claim Jokic and be locked out of all activities for the rest of the season. This makes... complete sense from my team's perspective. That is not a legal move in this league, it's against kind of an unwritten rule or one I don't see? Right now I'm not doing it because that's the vibe I get but I definitely want to.
Nikola Galactica at Feb 26, 2024 8:39 PM -
I don't know that I have a strong opinion on what we do/don't do. I do agree that even though the strategy in general is in theory sound, it's definitely strange to see it from a team in a playoff spot.
It's Darko and Hell is Hot at Feb 26, 2024 8:10 PM -
I understand what your saying but it's a dynasty league and this is what make it great. Trading star players at the deadline for next year is tanking also. Personally I could make a run at a 100-110 Joker without being illegal and still have a shot at this thing. Maybe I'm in the minority on this so I'll just wait to see what's decided.
Rippin Nylon π at Feb 26, 2024 7:37 PM -
Cutting expensive players is really only viable if the league allows teams to sit in a somewhat illegal state while their cuts are re-auctioned to clear cap space. Since that isn't a thing in this league, I don't think there's any way that Jokic goes for more than $100. Embiid also has risks associated with him, whereas Jokic is a top-3 player in MVP form right now, so I don't know if I agree with that comparison.
I also have no idea why this person took over this team in 7th place, tried to sell players to me (the team in 12th place, to be clear), and then half a game out of the playoffs cut Jokic. Should the 5th and 6th place teams tank because they don't think they are as good as the first place team? I think some consideration should be given to what 'being competitive' means in this league.
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 26, 2024 7:20 PM -
Cutting expensive players is really only viable if the league allows teams to sit in a somewhat illegal state while their cuts are re-auctioned to clear cap space. Since that isn't a thing in this league, I don't think there's any way that Jokic goes for more than $100. Embiid also has risks associated with him, whereas Jokic is a top-3 player in MVP form right now, so I don't know if I agree with that comparison.
I also have no idea why this person took over this team in 7th place, tried to sell players to me (the team in 12th place, to be clear), and then half a game out of the playoffs cut Jokic. Should the 5th and 6th place teams tank because they don't think they are as good as the first place team? I think some consideration should be given to what 'being competitive' means in this league.
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 26, 2024 7:19 PM -
Pretty cool that all the big-ticket guys (besides Embiid) have all been pretty healthy this season.
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 26, 2024 7:16 PM -
Good point. Minimum for Joker would be $72, which would still necessitate $144 in cuts from a team. Let me send some messages
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 26, 2024 7:13 PM -
It is a viable strategy to see how the dominoes fall and try to grab other guys who get cut cheaper. Could potentially be better than the return you'd get trying to trade Jokic in the offseason but it's a gamble of course.
It's Darko and Hell is Hot at Feb 26, 2024 7:12 PM -
2 weeks ago in one of my money leagues, Embiid was cut and re-auctioned for $60. I know he is hurt so a bit different and not uncommon to see this in my experience .
Rippin Nylon π at Feb 26, 2024 7:09 PM -
My bigger interest is cap space. Darko has the most at $12. Even if Jokic hits auction and goes for only $100, that's $200 of cuts the winning team would have to make with penalties. Is anyone prepared to slash half their payroll or are we gonna have a waiver wire Jokic?
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 26, 2024 7:05 PM -
I remember having a huge learning curve when I first started playing, so I totally get it. But my question is if these players were cut due to not fully understanding how the auction system works, is there any chance we can just reverse these cuts and put them back on his team? Otherwise this is quite a dramatic late-season shakeup that could have serious repercussions this season and next season as well (if someone gets these players way below market).
Bennie and the Chets at Feb 26, 2024 6:53 PM -
I'm sure no one is considering doing this but just a friendly reminder, if you decide to go after Jokic or Trae, you still must cut until your roster is valid. You cannot take him unless you are willing to go to cut town, population, your team.
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 26, 2024 3:21 PM -
I'm sure no one is considering doing this but just a friendly reminder, if you decide to go after Jokic or Trae, you still must cut until your roster is valid. You cannot take him unless you are willing to go to cut town, population, your team.
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 26, 2024 3:21 PM -
Fair play Austin, just making a point. Jokic auction is gonna be lit.
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 26, 2024 11:46 AM -
Tanking in an auction league though? Gonna be interesting when Jokic goes back up!
Dunkness on the Edge of Town at Feb 26, 2024 11:44 AM -
Just to give a little grace to Austin, itβs his first time playing Ottoneu and also fantasy in general. If there was any confusion about these cuts let me know!
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 26, 2024 11:39 AM -
Just to give a little grace to Austin, itβs his first time playing Ottoneu and also fantasy in general. If there was any confusion about these cuts let me know!
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 26, 2024 11:39 AM -
half a game out of the playoffs with the best categories player.... "can't compete"....
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 26, 2024 11:28 AM -
Yes, I have some good pieces, but ultimately can't compete this season. Tanking.
Full of Hell-iburton at Feb 26, 2024 11:25 AM -
I'm going to assume he is tanking for the #1 overall pick.
We Shall All Be Hield at Feb 26, 2024 10:33 AM -
Interesting...very interesting π€.
Rippin Nylon π at Feb 26, 2024 10:15 AM -
hey why did the 7th place team cut jokic? this isn't a riddle
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 26, 2024 10:00 AM -
I'm always game for deadline trades if anybody is looking to shake things up. I've got a decent mix of category savants for all your deadline shopping needs.
Magnum Rollers at Feb 13, 2024 12:02 PM -
It was about time to find some prospects for the rebuild
Why do we Tacko Fall sir? at Feb 7, 2024 10:03 AM