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Well.... that was quick! Congrats to our playoff qualifiers. Next year I really will make sure to expand out the playoffs to include more teams. So far I've really enjoyed the season. It has been cool to play. Please let me know if you know you don't plan to play next year. Otherwise I hope everyone comes back. ~ Hops
The Hopsmackers at Mar 21, 2022 4:27 PM -
Horford is available before the deadline if anyone interested.
We’d also be open to moving Giannis or Davis. But, someone would have to overpay as we’re planning on keeping them.
Let’s have a fun end to the trade deadline!
Juicy Fruit at Feb 27, 2022 6:53 PM -
Cosby Time's trade block has been updated!
Juicy Fruit at Feb 27, 2022 6:47 PM -
I too see nothing improper going on. The ottoneu economic system is proven to work well in baseball. The top heavy roster strategy seems to be working best in year one of basketball. That is making 10 or 15 of the roster spots into dead weight. The talk online is that next season, each roster slot will have 4 games per week instead of the current 3. So a total of 36 games versus the current 27. That will reward deeper balanced rosters a lot more than the top heavy teams, thus bringing value to all the slots on your roster.
Chip Baskets'Balls at Feb 20, 2022 4:17 PM -
Interesting thread below. My only add-on is that this feels much more like Ottoneu Fantasy Football as opposed to Ottoneu Fantasy Baseball. (I play both as well.) In our league’s first year in fantasy football people WAY overpaid for guys: Zeke Elliot went for $125 and Mahomes went for $115 for example. I snuck in and got A. Rodgers for like $15. Then in year two there were some MAJOR cuts and some compression. Now in year three it has settled down quite a lot. The prospect piece really comes in on year 2-3 because those guys start to have an increased value.
In terms of the Beal/Durant/ Lillard stuff that never seemed like cheating to me; just guys cutting high-priced stars to save $. (If I thought those guys were worth that much I would’ve went for them at auction. But I thought they were priced too high anyways.)
And as far as the 25 man rosters go I agree, it’s a lot. But I guess I’m thinking I just have to stash like 4-7 guys and play with 17-21 guys in a regular rotation. Plus that COVID-19 patch in and around mid-Dec to mid-Jan threw everything for a weird loop.
I’m enjoying this league. Fun way to spend some time at work playing fantasy.
The Hopsmackers at Feb 20, 2022 2:24 PM -
For sure. After this initial season we’ll go to six for sure next year.
The Hopsmackers at Feb 20, 2022 2:11 PM -
Personally I don't think any player should be "returned" or dropped because of these transactions. None seem to be collusion, just tough decisions being made in an inflated market. I'll reiterate that PG was mostly like to be my first drop in the off-season, I mismanaged my salary cap and was playing with fire most of the season, I finally have some breathing room. Team Wood has been the most savvy in all this, scooping up these players for good prices and gearing up for next year, love it!
Side note, Commish can we up the playoff slots to 6 next season? 4 seems a little too exclusive imo.
Bob Ross in the Paint at Feb 17, 2022 11:25 AM -
I really don't like being accused of collusion or working out "deals" under the table when no such thing occured. However, if the league feels winning a bid on a nominated player that everyone had the opportunity to bid on is collusion, then I will drop Beal before the keeper deadline next year.
All of these moves have been the result of legitimate transactions. Durant was dropped so the team could compete for a playoff spot and championship this year (similar to PG). These are reasonable and tough decisions I am sure the owners had to make. Sacrifice next year for a shot this year. Once Durant was dropped, six teams made bids on him and none of the six teams had the cap space to take him on without needing to drop a high priced star or half of their roster. Zion just happened to be the highest bidder and also had a high value guy out for the year so it was an easy decision who to drop. I wasn't the only one to bid on Beal I just had the highest bid. Beal at $40 or Dame at $80 when both are out for the season wasn't a hard decision to better my team next year. Anyone could have bid on Dame, Zion just won the bid again. To say Zion and I colluded to exchange Beal and Dame just isn't accurate.
If Zion just randomly dropped Beal without a corresponding move, then yes that would be pretty bad, but that isn't the case. Or if I randomly decide to drop Trae young for no reason (or anyone dropping a star who isn't injured) that would also not be good for the integrity of the league. However, all players involved have been out for season and also aren't going to impact what should be a very tight playoffs. Sexton and MPJ were dropped earlier in the year too when they were declared out for season. It is pretty common in a competitive league.
Team Wood at Feb 17, 2022 12:04 AM -
Just for clarification I dropped beal to make room for Durant. The money I got back from beal getting picked up allowed me to get Lilliard. Why would I keep him for $72 with him out for the season? Beal at $40 is a better contract than Dame at $80 for Team Wood. Heild helps with a playoff push over PG. All these moves have reasons behind them.
With only 4 playoff teams, teams are either going to be all in or playing for next year like in any sport. Every team has the same salary cap to spend how they see fit. I purposely constructed my roster to have cap flexibility to get guys on favorable contacts for next year with guys I drafted, traded for, and have picked up.
Zion the Prize at Feb 15, 2022 4:37 PM -
zion and team wood in reality traded beal for lillard but both got a 50% reduction in salary. if some other owner drops his high salary player and he picks up pg and you pick up his player, I will not be surprised. It is collusion only with the audacity to throw it in our faces knowing we can't bid or do the same by working out a "deal" with another owner. If this is how you play the game in Ottoneu, I'll gladly go somewhere else. CBS and yahoo and probably most sites don't allow star players to be dropped for this very reason.
PACERS at Feb 15, 2022 3:24 PM -
I think what you are seeing is a product of a new league in a brand-new format. I feel like most 'star' players' salaries are pretty inflated, especially with such large rosters. Take PG for example, I dropped him, not sure if that sparked your post or not. I'm happy to walk through my thinking if that helps. Right now, the rumors are he is done for the season, I am in the thick of the playoff hunt and don't believe he will be back until next season, I'm pretty much in win-now mode. I added Buddy Heild who after the trade to Indy has increased usage, should be helpful down the stretch. I needed to shed about $20 of salary after the Buddy addition, the way I constructed my lineup of stars and scrubs I either drop half my roster of cheap and over performing players (sacrificing depth) or I drop one bigger name/bigger salary player and hope it doesn't bite me in the ass. I opted to drop PG, from the looks of the last few 'star' players that were dropped; all were similar situations as PG, lots of question marks for the rest of the season and tough roster decisions. If I were to guess we will see a mass exodus of most rosters after arbitration this off-season, and a pretty substantial draft next season as players' salaries will start drop down to more reasonable numbers. We are all learning Ottoneu Basketball at the same time, I personally still think 25 players is too many for basketball, but we'll see how the rest of the season plays out. Just my two-cents on the whole thing, it will take a few seasons for salaries to even out and big-name stars to remain on teams after they aren't productive any longer in the current season, more mirroring Ottoneu baseball.
Bob Ross in the Paint at Feb 15, 2022 2:07 PM -
I will not be renewing next year. I will not play in a format where you guys drop your star players and then pick them from each other at half price.
PACERS at Feb 15, 2022 11:58 AM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Feb 7, 2022 8:44 PM -
Interesting article was posted on the community board: https://pointsabove.com/2022/02/07/ottoneu-basketball-power-rankings-january-2022/
Power rankings! The Benchwarmers and The Big Fundamentals are in the top 10 teams for traditional points leagues. And our league is 3rd our of all (10) traditional points leagues.
Bob Ross in the Paint at Feb 7, 2022 5:51 PM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Feb 3, 2022 9:24 PM -
I have one spot available in a 16-team dynasty baseball league on CBS. $100.
PACERS at Jan 30, 2022 5:50 PM -
Cosby Time's trade block has been updated!
Juicy Fruit at Jan 23, 2022 5:03 PM -
Willing to listen to offers on Trae Young. Also, if any contenders are interested in Dame Lillard in hopes he comes back for the playoffs, shoot me an offer.
Team Wood at Jan 22, 2022 1:49 PM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Jan 21, 2022 8:10 PM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Jan 16, 2022 1:34 PM -
Team Wood's trade block has been updated!
Team Wood at Jan 14, 2022 5:54 PM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Jan 5, 2022 10:09 AM -
Cosby Time's trade block has been updated!
Juicy Fruit at Dec 31, 2021 6:06 AM -
Welp. Looks like Covid has killed our playoff chances. We’re willing to trade our biggest/high price stars for cheap keepers for next year. Send us a message or offer if interested.
Juicy Fruit at Dec 24, 2021 10:06 AM -
Fun Bags's trade block has been updated!
HALIBURTON Corp. at Dec 18, 2021 8:22 PM -
I'll trade Giannis for whomever can give mer the biggest return for the future.
HALIBURTON Corp. at Dec 18, 2021 8:22 PM -
The Hopsmackers's trade block has been updated!
The Hopsmackers at Dec 8, 2021 3:26 PM -
The Hopsmackers's trade block has been updated!
The Hopsmackers at Dec 2, 2021 11:49 AM -
Team Wood's trade block has been updated!
Team Wood at Dec 1, 2021 10:11 AM -
Bob Ross in the Paint's trade block has been updated!
Bob Ross in the Paint at Nov 26, 2021 7:31 AM -
are we planning to update the division to "Cripto.com Arena"? And while you're at it can you move the two juggernauts out? :)
Juicy Fruit at Nov 19, 2021 11:29 AM -
Bob Ross in the Paint's trade block has been updated!
Bob Ross in the Paint at Nov 14, 2021 10:28 AM -
Another reminder for the slack server if anyone is interested, a few of us in there now!
https://join.slack.com/t/ottoneuhoops/shared_invite/zt-xo5hyf5f-651nqNH9_v9z7SvfOw4Zmw
Bob Ross in the Paint at Nov 10, 2021 11:25 AM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Nov 8, 2021 11:25 AM -
Team Wood's trade block has been updated!
Team Wood at Nov 7, 2021 11:44 AM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Oct 26, 2021 11:00 PM -
Hi All: Fun start to the season. It has been a little different than expected but again, we're one of the first so.....
College guys appear to be "in". So, let the fun begin!!
~Hops
The Hopsmackers at Oct 26, 2021 5:01 PM -
Cosby Time's trade block has been updated!
Juicy Fruit at Oct 25, 2021 5:40 PM -
Looking to trade a F or C for another guard. Shoot me an offer
Zion the Prize at Oct 23, 2021 7:35 AM -
Here is a link to the slack server for our league: Join my Slack workspace! https://join.slack.com/t/ottoneuhoops/shared_invite/zt-xo5hyf5f-651nqNH9_v9z7SvfOw4Zmw
Let me know if you have issues getting in. I added a few different channels if you want more let me know!
See you all there.
Bob Ross in the Paint at Oct 22, 2021 4:54 PM -
I think it's something wrong with a lot of the guys that have made 2 starts. Look up Giannis, it says he's only played in 1 game, but it says his brother has played 2. Giannis started both games, his brother did not.
Chip Baskets'Balls at Oct 22, 2021 2:11 PM -
Looking at your matchup page for those nights it looks correct to me. Maybe reach out to Niv in the community forums if your seeing an issue, he has been really responsive with ongoing issues so far.
Bob Ross in the Paint at Oct 22, 2021 12:28 PM -
I PLAYED D GREEN TUES AND THUR. HE SCORED 17 POINTS EACH NIGHT. WHY DOES HE NOT HAVE BOTH NIGHT'S STATS SHOWING. HE SHOULD HAVE 34.
PACERS at Oct 22, 2021 12:10 PM -
(Just an amateur poet :)
Twas the day of the start of the NBA season
And all through the house,
Not a ball could be heard dribbling
By the ghost of Jerry Krause (even though he’s dead the old Bulls team still seems to talk about him a bunch)
And I with my computer, And ma with her phone,
Had just settled down , Next to King James and his thrown.
When along came A.D. wondering about Space Jam 3,
“Lebron” he said, “should come and ask you.
Could Russell Westbrook be in it
And maybe Bam Adebayo?”
I replied, “I was no film director, I could hardly make a frozen pizza.”
But if I could cast the film, I thought,
I’d make sure to add Trevor Ariza.
And with that he vanished, like Kyrie at a vaccine clinic
Giannis and Jrue and Khris could win it again.
Buddy Heild may be traded,
Bill Laimbeer was no one’s friend.
Or like a Bogdanovic family reunion (did you know Bogdon and Bojan are not related?)
The Hawks and Jazz could surprise
Or the Spurs and Derek White, Myles Turner will block ten shots in a game,
I saw it with my own eyes.
And to all a fun season,
The NBA a nice reason,
to play some fantasy sports!
The Hopsmackers at Oct 19, 2021 1:11 PM -
ok with me
Slamflower Seed Finger ☝️ at Oct 14, 2021 11:12 AM -
Would anyone be interested in a slack server for the league? We have one for one of my baseball leagues, its easier to stay in touch, talk trade or general league discussions than the message board. If there is enough interest I can create one for those that want to participate.
Bob Ross in the Paint at Oct 14, 2021 11:03 AM -
Team Wood's trade block has been updated!
Team Wood at Oct 13, 2021 1:58 PM -
The Hopsmackers's trade block has been updated!
The Hopsmackers at Oct 13, 2021 1:33 PM -
Zion the Prize's trade block has been updated!
Zion the Prize at Oct 13, 2021 1:02 PM -
Well, we might not be the 1st Ottoneu hoops leagues but we are definitely "top three". Let's stay active and help the system work through any kinks. For example, I'd already lobby for 20 man rosters given the size and scope of what we all did. Stuff like that. Talk soon. ~~ Hops
The Hopsmackers at Oct 12, 2021 10:11 PM