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I don’t see anything wrong with this trade. Rizzo, Votto, and Cruz are borderline keepers. ISpiders will be well over the cap when the loan ceases to exist. Rizzo is not on pace to keep 2B eligibility... I don’t need to go on about the trade. I am not sure why Killteam is vehemently opposed to this trade especially given his trade history as Spiders pointed out.
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The Firmament's trade block has been updated!
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Sorry all, I just got back from some errands so I haven't been responding. Firmament is exactly right - I had been negotiating with both teams for the exact same players, and the long and short of it is that while KILLTEAM's offer centered mostly around guys who were good but borderline pitching keepers, IS's were hitters with high keeper upside. I also considered standing pat for the moment, but all it takes is an injury like Miggy's to lose all trade value, so I moved forward.
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The complaint is that it is a league altering trade but I am not sure what is altering the league. The assets being traded are either non keepers or borderline keepers that can help this year and on the other side, the assets being traded are mostly keepers. It seems like this trade is made to fit the purpose of trading future talent for now talent.
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Here’s a quomessage from earlier in the season:
“For the record I don’t know Warlords. My feeling on trades are if the owners are not colluding and trying to win people should not veto.”
Have you changed your opinion or do you think one of us is not trying to win?
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0% doubt I just read that part. I would love to know how I’m colluding with someone I have never met.
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None of that is nessisary. I am aware he was talking to you and no one is cheating. I just find this to be a league altering deal that in my opinion should not process. This isn’t an argument. I gave my opinion and that is all it is just as you did as well. With every deal the league has an opportunity to vote. The league voted on my deals just as they will for this as well. My opinion is just that. Everyone has to make up their own mind
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And just to be clear to the rest of the league: Devil Magic and I have been negotiating this trade for ages because we were both trying to hold out for more. I’ve also contacted at least 1 other owner about trades because I wasn’t completely sold on this offer. Further more I offered DM a way to help mitigate the cap situation and he said he was ok as is. Happy to screen shot all our messages with his permission.
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When I get home from work I’ll publish a net trade between. You and WARLords. I guarantee it’s 1000% more lopsided than this. All 5 players I sent are 2019 keepers. You traded a bunch of garbage for productive players. Just because it didn’t happen in 1 transaction doesn’t chang anything. I backed off then even though I still believe it was nonsense and you should do the same.
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It was never 3 superstars for zero. Again that is my opinion and why I phrased it as such. So I’ll prolly stay.
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If this is an actual position you’re going to take I have 0% doubt the 2 commissioners and WARLords are colluding.
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I mean just LOL if you vote to veto after I expressed the EXACT same concern months ago and was assured it was legit. Go back through all your trades with WARLords and see how you gave up literally nothing to acquire all those players and cap space. I’m giving up almost every bit of 2019 value I have to make this trade. Get out of here.
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So I do not believe anyone is cheating by any means and I want everyone to run their team the way they see fit. However I think the most current trade that is accept alters the league too much to not be vetoed. That is my opinion and I would urge the league to veto it if they feel the same way.
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It's Real Velour's trade block has been updated!
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It's pretty clear that I'm out of the running at this point, and I'm tired of fighting it, haha. Some of my big guns (Kershaw, Votto, Rizzo) are for sale in return for good keepers
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Looking for a 2nd
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I am going to have to drop Corey Seager to be able to make roster moves. He will be able to be kept for $18 after he clears waivers. I Just wanted everyone to have the same shot at him.
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Ozuna and osuna on the block
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Let me know if anyone is interested in Seager as a keeper for next year, as I'm looking to trade him for help this year.
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I'M BACK BITCHES!!!'s trade block has been updated!
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Bulldoggos 2 on
April 25, 2018 1:35 PM
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I’m not asking anyone to change anything. They are your votes just was offered a trade and accepted. I get what Warlords is doing. Just hope everyone asks questions or discusses stuff to keep the league going and fun. For the record loans reset. I do not get 18 of his cap forever. Sorry if I’m posting something everyone knows.
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OK I’ll take you guys at your word that you’re both trying to compete, albeit in different ways, which is the important thing. For the record, I think this trade is preposterous, and if anybody is thinking of doing anything similar, feel free to get in touch with me and see if I’ll offer more! Changing my vote.
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For the record I don’t know Warlords. My feeling on trades are if the owners are not colluding and trying to win people should not veto. Warlords team gets all their cap back at the end of the year. I’m not sure people understand the loans fully, I don’t say that to be a jerk but that’s the impression I get from talking to league mates . No one would have offered anything close to $20 player for cabera. That all being said I get the initial frustration to the trade on paper.
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This is a dynasty league. There are many strategies owners can pursue. Some choose to go all in to compete this year. I am positioning my roster for next year when some of my stud prospects will be up and ready to help me. I've had Miggy on the trade block for nearly two weeks now, and KILLTEAM is the only one to make me an offer. I happen to think Soler is showing signs of a breakout and could be a valuable asset at his $2 price.
Bulldoggos 2 on
April 25, 2018 11:39 AM
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