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Honestly you and your bro are the only people I ever heard thinking league payouts, dues and / or fees could influence an owner in season or in the offseason. The argument makes no sense. You aren’t paying to play a great fantasy baseball game as a hobby if there wasn’t risk of losing said money. It’s a bonus you get a chance to win money. Not a detriment. If there was no bonus then everyone would play in free leagues and I can guarantee no one in this league is putting time in to win not
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Idk, my feeling is that Niv’s making money regardless on each league. I’m against the kickback and for the side pot. I think there should be some sort of incentive for the amount of time we all put into managing a team. For the most part I think the Ottoneu infrastructure has been put in place. If it wasn’t, I’d be more in favor of not having a side pot. If the rake was 10-20% I’d be okay with it, but 50% is ridiculous IMO. I do think it will discourage owners from buying and selling i
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I do not have an issue with the kickback at all. In fact, I think it's necessary because we are paying for a great service and platform. We are paying for what we get. The site may be simple but the utility is great. Niv is constantly improving the site and has made vast improvements since 3-4 years ago. He always answers emails. He accepts and utilizes feedback. And let's not forget he incorporated rotowire onto player pages last year and we have access to Fangraphs which is $20 a year.
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I don’t think we should kick back any to niv the scoring strategy and aspect of ottoneu is awesome. But this website is honestly terrible in my opinion
The Fish 🐠 on
November 27, 2019 4:53 PM
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lol. We knew that but thanks for clarifying. I’m with Moerder on this.
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Just to clarify for anyone catching up on this conversation...everything AB said is wrong lol. 2nd and 3rd always get paid out in any format, but $100 fees (without the side pot) is a pretty fair cut, with Niv taking 25% of the pot (as opposed to 50% in a $50 fee structure). So...my vote would be $100 without side pot, because I believe kicking a reasonable amount of money up to Niv only benefits the *~*~Ottoneu Experience~*~*
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I don’t mind kicking money up to Niv because he’s been making really solid improvements on the platform the last few years, but if people want to keep the side pot I won’t object too strongly
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My vote is $100 buy-in and let him rake $300 to keep making the platform better. $50 league is odd that he takes close to half.
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Here is the breakdown. https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/prizeterms
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I’d much rather do the side pot like we did last year
The Fish 🐠 on
November 26, 2019 9:01 PM
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Yeah I’m open to whatever but the take on the $50 is offensive, he pays out 200/100/50 and keeps 250/600. It doesn’t matter it just irritates me. I’d rather have us be a $20 league and do $100 (or more) on the side and I’m happy to act as treasurer or whatever. Like I said though it’s more the principle of the amount of take than the reality of it
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I'm on the way, and I don't really care what you all do going forward. Just bear in mind that if fewer people are winning money, it would, in theory, reduce the incentive to acquire talent at the trade deadline if 1st place is secure by early May. But just maybe that's what you all want...fewer lopsided, rebuilding type trades at the end of the year. Just some thoughts before I bounce.
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For what it's worth, the reason I arranged the 'side pot' was because Niv takes a huge cut of league fees. I'm not exactly sure of the percentages, but I believe it's close to half of all fees. So, for instance, Niv collects $300 in a $50 league with only the winner being paid out the remaining $50 (no money for 2nd or 3rd). In a $100 league, I think only 1st and 2nd get paid out (maybe $400 for 1st and $200 for 2nd).
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I’m down with whatever. Increases in fees typically drive interest and league activity. COUGH. COOOOOUUUGGHHHHHHHHH!
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I'm down to raise dues to 100 bucks, we need to drum up owner engagement *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGGHHHHHH* (passes out from suggestive coughing)
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It was $50.
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I thought it was a $100... if it’s only 50 I’m fine doing that or talking about going 100.
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- Last, any other suggestions are welcome... I think for the most part everything else is pretty standard, but open to ideas.
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I’m a big fan of the aggressiveness, Commish. Keep it up and you may have a future in this.
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- I'm going to update the commissioners note with some standards for activity in the league. I'm hoping it will give some standard for expectations of the members and maybe even encourage active owners who are looking for an equally active league to join. Open to suggestions for what what would look like... otherwise it may just be a general statement.
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- I'd like to give a little more time to find someone on Slack for the vacant team before we make the team available publicly. I think pulling from Slack would give us a better owner. I also don't want this team to sit ownerless for too long so I'm thinking if we don't have someone in the next 2 weeks(?) we go public. Is anyone in an other league with someone or have a friend they'd be able to pull in?
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Wasn't this league only 50 bucks?
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Alright fellas... a few things here to start my reign as commish.
- I'm changing the pay system so we go back to just a standard $100 league. I'm not messing around with side payments and I don't mind that ottoneu gets a cut.
- Fill out the doodle below for our draft date. If there is no way any of these dates/times work for you, let me know and what other options you'd need. All of March 7pm-10pmish with some morning options on weekends. https://doodle.com/poll/e62ubbfuq9xyvirq
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I’ve just granted White league commissioner powers.
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I think we'll need the league commish to post the team on the claim team page, no? or have AB drop ownership of his team so it appears there? Looks like the commish status needs to be transferred to Bambino
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You can post it on the "claim a team" page too
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I’ve posted about the opening
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Prolly best to find someone on slack. Someone will easily take this team and build it back up fairly easily.
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Hey everyone, After a lot of careful thought, I've decided to step away from Ottoneu baseball. I simply don't have the time, knowledge, or interest in baseball to commit to rebuilding my team going forward. With that in mind, it's in the best interest of the league for me to step aside. White is going to step up and serve as commissioner of the league going forward. I'll hang onto the team until you find a replacement. Pour one out for me fellas.
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In the famous words of David Guetta “fire away, fire away”
The Fish 🐠 on
November 15, 2019 2:30 AM
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The Champ is here! Let’s TRADE
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Arb deadline is tonight fellas
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everyone coming back?
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Arbitration reminder
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Given day...And on that note: Thank You to all the immigrant, now US citizens, I started on a daily basis to dominate you dumb rust belters. Hopefully the Amazon keeps burning so the smoke and oppressive world heat clouds your thoughts and souls in the offseason. All jokes aside, let’s celebrate and grab em by the PUSSY!
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Id like to thank all the “persuaders” in this league for helping me dominate. I’d like to thank Roger Stone. My BFF Vladdy P. Big props to Cambridge Analytica for helping me analyze when to make moves. Hey Loud Contact, let me know if you want their info. Considering this league was yours if you made those deals. Ha! 😉... I would be remiss if I did not mention Facebook. I really appreciate all the personal data they provided on my players so I knew what kind of mood they were in on a gi
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All places have been paid out from the side pot : 1st - Picz ($400); 2nd - Moerder ($150); 3rd - Bill ($50). Let me know if you're not returning next year.
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We're gonna have a hell of a finish here for first...
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Man, not a good look for Chris Archer to get cut the same time as Vazquez. What does KB know???
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You can have Alex Dickerson
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Anyone shopping rental OF?
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Anyone want 2020 Scherzer? I am ahead of IP pace but I"d move him for some 2019 value
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I might as well join the train and say that I'm also looking to buy SP
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I also want SP to finish off this b2b
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Who's selling SP? Ping me here or Slack I need to buy
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Looking for a healthy ACE. Will pay up
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I own the Disabled List 's trade block has been updated!
The Fish 🐠 on
June 6, 2019 5:51 PM
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I own the Disabled List 's trade block has been updated!
The Fish 🐠 on
June 4, 2019 11:51 AM
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To Kill a Marlon Byrd's trade block has been updated!
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Loud Contact's trade block has been updated!
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