League Message Board
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OK Freeman trade goes through Sat morning at 10a eastern. I do see this trade as fundamentally different than the Tucker trade & oughtn't to conflate them. Me and Papi had our reasons but I know that trade isn't that out of the ordinary. On the Freeman trade, maybe Shohei Parlay perhaps said it best, you've got to get some real value back. What is the value of 3 RPs and a Max if you're giving away a free Freddie.
Express Written Consent on May 3, 2025 2:36 AM
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Guess I should poke my head up for a minute. Sorry the Tucker trade upset a few people. I obviously have a view of where my team is at and was going to be with Tucker for the balance of this year and beyond - he is undoubtedly was an elite asset on a very (*checks notes*) non-elite Randy Lahey team at the moment. And none of the prospects may pan out. I get it.
Hope some of you enjoyed airing their grievances on it this afternoon and that everyone has a nice weekend.Randy Lahey on May 2, 2025 6:25 PM
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Me too, abstaining. Carry on, cheers!
Yaz Cats on May 2, 2025 4:28 PM
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I’ll be abstaining just fyi. Cheers
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 4:23 PM
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I messaged that I had interest in Freeman. Offer came in, I accepted it, that's the story. Glad we all got got some Friday entertainment. Veto away, makes sense--no problem, no worries, all good, no name calling from me.
Yaz Cats on May 2, 2025 4:02 PM
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I hate vetoing trades, but $31 of cap space is worth significantly more than barely rosterable RPs. At least trade something that COULD have value.
Shohei Parlay on May 2, 2025 3:33 PM
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Yaz is one of the nicest smartest guys in the world but he should come with a skull & crossbones warning label! Different evaluations are what this game is all about but people are still trading well-decorated delicious birthday cakes for an egg and a cup of flower. Also a bird in the hand is worth two in the bushes. I’m not interested in going down the rabbit hole any further right now and this world has gone mad, mad I tells ya.
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 3:26 PM
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More than anything and hate to do this, Yaz that’s the type of trades you have been sending everyone for a year now. And it’s kinda Bush league. This is fantasy baseball so it aint that serious, but when you send me Casey Mize and Ezequiel Tovar for Mookie Betts you just insult peoples intelligence and prey on owners who don’t know how to play fantasy. That’s gotta change.
The Infirmary on May 2, 2025 3:02 PM
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With this Freeman trade, if you take Freeman out of the trade entirely, then it might be fair hahaha. I still might rather have Tyler Holton and Strahm than the other side of it though.
I'm not Pfaadt, I'm big boned on May 2, 2025 2:52 PM
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(FWIW Tucker's avg pts league salary is $42.16)
Rougie Odor’s Brother on May 2, 2025 2:48 PM
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Haha. Glad the message board chatter is making your Friday workday go by faster!
Who's Your Papi? on May 2, 2025 2:46 PM
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Still off the original topic, but...
In a decade-old league:
Schulz traded at $3: 95.5% rostered, avg pts league salary $3.68
Basallo traded at $5: 99% rostered, avg pts league salary $4.22
Walcott (Fangraphs #4 prospect) traded at $8: 8% rostered, avg pts league salary $4.01 (mean salary is $3, so sure, divisive is fair).
3 top-20 prospects. All of the scouts and Ottoneu players can't be THAT wrong...Rougie Odor’s Brother on May 2, 2025 2:44 PM
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But we're not at the trade deadline. It's one thing for a rebuilding team to trade an expensive star for keepable assets at the deadline. But there's 80% of the season left. (Plus a $53 Tucker isn't even expensive.) And with regards to Freeman, if you don't want his salary, you could just cut now and get $62 back to use the rest of the season when he's claimed or re-auctioned in a few days.
Who's Your Papi? on May 2, 2025 2:44 PM
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(also love some afternoon message board action--helping these meetings fly by)
Rougie Odor’s Brother on May 2, 2025 2:29 PM
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Perhaps selfishly, but I see that trade as fundamentally different. Our disparate evaluations of Morel aside, this feels like a pretty typical Ottoneu prospects-for-expensive player trader. If that trade happened at the deadline or at the keeper deadline, I don't think we'd be having this conversation.
Rougie Odor’s Brother on May 2, 2025 2:20 PM
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The prospects in that trade were already costing too much and tucker and morel are at perfectly reasonable prices. Woollcott is one of those divisive prospects that one must be very skeptical of and Basallo who knows but I don’t think he’s actually been burning up the high minors.
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 2:18 PM
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And you get Tucker and Morel and actually shave a couple bucks off your payroll? Terrific deal for somebody, and the rest of the league can jump in a lake.
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 2:11 PM
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The Tucker trade was the third time. The Tucker & Morel trade from a couple days ago is barely more defensible than the Freeman trade. Recently The Athletic surveyed some MLB players and one question was who is the most underrated player in the league. And one answer was “a prospect, any prospect”. Trading an absolutely elite-hitting OF + a major league contributing young IF to a league-leading ream for a couple of can-miss prospects and a possibly serviceable minor league slider pit
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 2:09 PM
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Yes we’re not talking about illegal, leaving the deeply annoying prospect that no one can do a thing about it. The Freeman trade is the fourth time this has happened in a league I’m competitive in. I’ll be in second place breathing down the neck of first place in mid-summer and then some guy trades an IL-listed $20 Eloy to the first place team for a Soto than was so reasonably priced that he got kept. Just givin it away
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 2:03 PM
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The best you can say for Kepler is he's sometimes rosterable. Hasn't scored more than 5 pts per game since 2019, when he had his best year, with 6.25 pts per game. every other year he's been under 5 pts per game, including this year. last year he scored 3.6 pts and this year he's at 4.59 pts. And Freeman where is he at? So, no.
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 1:40 PM
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I need to come to the defense of poor Max Kepler here--he's been pretty good. I don't think it is a good trade, but I also don't know that it is an ILLEGAL trade. We're new to the league though and every one operates differently, so we'll defer to the group.
Rougie Odor’s Brother on May 2, 2025 1:31 PM
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Yeah, at least the Ohtani trade netted a $4 Carroll and Miller. I don't know what the defense would be for this one. Second trade this week of a stud for...?
Who's Your Papi? on May 2, 2025 1:30 PM
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Well we might note that the team who traded away Ohtani for Carrol & Bryce Miller is cruising and the team that got Ohtani has seemingly thrown in the towel in April for 2025. I didn’t have an issue with that one, myself- but remember we had a ridiculous trade in 2023 and that did get a pretty resounding veto. (I’d never seen a trade vetoed before). The current trade is indefensible as far as I’m concerned.
Express Written Consent on May 2, 2025 12:54 PM
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Almost as bad as that Ohtani trade 2 years ago. Not quite that level. But Freddie for 3 relievers is hysterically bad. Should be vetoed quickly.
The Infirmary on May 2, 2025 12:39 PM
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Can someone explain how this Freddie Freeman trade is fair?
I'm not Pfaadt, I'm big boned on May 2, 2025 12:14 PM
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And yes, that trade is... something. Hoo boy.
Who's Your Papi? on April 29, 2025 11:40 AM
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Haha! But yeah, first place in OPL as of now. Pretty sweet.
Who's Your Papi? on April 29, 2025 11:39 AM
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All that said- wow, quite a trade
The review period is only 24 hours.Express Written Consent on April 29, 2025 1:15 AM
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First, I have no idea why anyone would give a darn about Yaz Cats’ dumbass OPL team. I suspect some gamesmanship in Pfaadt’s buttering up.
However I would like to give a shout out to Pfaadt, whose team is excellent.
And my team seems to have got helium recently too! And we’re not finished! Yet!Express Written Consent on April 29, 2025 1:14 AM
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So far, so good, thanks1
Yaz Cats on April 24, 2025 6:48 AM
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I want to give a shout-out to Yaz Cats for dominating in the OPL so far! Awesome job!
I'm not Pfaadt, I'm big boned on April 23, 2025 11:51 PM
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Y este año, ¿quién sabe?
Express Written Consent on February 16, 2025 2:22 PM
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As we head into the 10th year of the timmy, let's glance at the champions we've had to date. 2024 Shohei Parlay.
2023 Bloominati.
2022 Who’s Your Papi.
2021 Randy Lahey.
2020 Yaz Cats.
2019 Yaz Cats.
2018 The Infirmary.
2017 Yaz Cats.
2016 Shohei Parlay (my team at the time, then called Are You Segura)Express Written Consent on February 16, 2025 2:20 PM
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ok, there being no objections, the draft is set for Tuesdee March 11th 8:30p eastern, 5:30 western. i am psyched, i have abandoned all my other fantasy teams (1) to focus on this hitherto neglected squad. see you then.
Express Written Consent on February 16, 2025 2:05 PM
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Hm, ok, sorry, i've been a bit haphazard here. I don't think Tuesday the 11th has been eliminated as a possibility-- i've got it there. The 13th seems like it might work but let's try the 11th.
Express Written Consent on February 11, 2025 12:26 PM
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13-14th aren't going to work for me. Sorry I didn't chime in because I saw the 8th and thought I would be good. I'll be away at a coaching conference the 13th-15th. I could do pretty much any other weeknight for the rest of the month
Bloominati🌹 on February 11, 2025 9:18 AM
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I cannot do weekends during college baseball season unfortunately. That’s when my games are. Would have to be weeknight for me.
The Infirmary on February 11, 2025 8:55 AM
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I set it for the 14th. Ya'll have a little more than a month to clear away a 2 hour slot on your schedule.
Express Written Consent on February 11, 2025 2:07 AM
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Also prefer not a Saturday and can't do 3/12.
Yaz Cats on February 9, 2025 5:46 PM
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Yeah regardless of date night is gonna be better for us. Weeknights are great, esp if its after 8PM EDT.
Rougie Odor’s Brother on February 8, 2025 10:23 PM
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Not 3-6, 3-5 or 3-9. Any March day besides though.
Waddling Pancreas on February 7, 2025 11:02 AM
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Hi. The auction needs to be at night -- my weekend is Tuesday-Wednesday. I think it's best to do it between the 7th and the 15th, but I could do any evening of the week.
Express Written Consent on February 7, 2025 1:30 AM
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I'd vote for a different day, too. I have another draft at that time.
I'm not Pfaadt, I'm big boned on February 7, 2025 1:16 AM
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Would love to not do a Saturday night for draft
The Infirmary on February 7, 2025 12:40 AM
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I've got the auction set for the 8th right now. (Thought I'd done this previously, but maybe didn't hit the save button).
Express Written Consent on February 6, 2025 11:52 PM
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Prefer a March Draft, not 3-6 or 3-9
Waddling Pancreas on February 5, 2025 9:17 PM
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Welcome Rougie! Great to have you in this league!
I'm not Pfaadt, I'm big boned on January 25, 2025 3:49 PM
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Welcome to our new owner! Great to have you here.
Who's Your Papi? on January 25, 2025 3:35 PM
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New owner a and roster asking for a rebuild. Less than a week until the keeper deadline. Open for business!
Rougie Odor’s Brother on January 25, 2025 10:52 AM
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Yes, please feel free to post. I'll do the same. Thanks!
Who's Your Papi? on January 21, 2025 11:25 AM