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I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I have less of an issue about which package he preferred and more shocked that THAT was the package he took for giving up what seemed to be all GOOD, MLB-ready pieces. But, whatever.
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That was 12-24 hours after my final offer. The impression I got was that those players were being discussed with 3-4 teams for several days while I was in the early stages of asking about their cost
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The message board postings show Jed was shopping Ortiz since June 8th, with at least 5 posts about his availability. I can't remember when I started to press hard for him, but Jed told me I'd have to wait 12-24 so he could get his offers from other teams
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I'm sure it's old hearing the same complaint over and over again, but I assure you it's not as tiresome as trying to compete in a league where you have to be in front of your computer 24/7 or you're shit out of luck.
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You're right, I didn't make a concrete offer in the hour and a half between when you asked me what I would give up and when you made the deal.
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Speaking of trades, a little surprised Ryan Braun hasn't gotten moved this season. He's the one guy I thought might get moved early...
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Standings Update: http://bit.ly/1rpBQLO (the one where Jed finishes 5th)
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The other issue was that I didn't want to improve the two teams I am chasing. I'm going to finish third this year, I've decided.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 23, 2014 6:50 AM
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I think in that case that was like the non Taveras prospect I liked better than Winker, so I couldn't think of a plan B.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 11:23 PM
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Agree with the WGW thought; it's just not applicable here can't speak for Durham but I was told deal couldn't happen without Bundy
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It just comes down to actually offering something else in return rather than complaining when you view the final package as less than what you may or may not have given up
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I'm with WAR on this discussion. I have had plenty of conversations with other teams in trade negotiations where nothing was offered in return and I ended up going with a package I was definitely happy with instead
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Given the fragility of pitching prospects these days, a bat in the top 50 can be every bit as valuable as a pitcher in the top 10. Taillon, Walker, Bradley, they all blow.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 7:16 PM
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You guys thought Bundy, Sano, Correia was too steep, which is fine, but you didn't really come back with anything. I didn't "demand" those elite guys, I just started the conversation there.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 7:14 PM
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But part of this is just a willingness to go back-and-forth, right? I had a top-50 (IMO) on the table in Winker. Why not start the conversation with other teams with a top-20, let them tell me it's too steep, then go from there?
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 7:12 PM
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Bundy isn't a top-10 prospect IMO. Maybe top-20 depending on who you think graduated from being ranked. I don't understand dismissing Iwakuma as nothing, he scored 1,000 points last year.
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June 22, 2014 7:11 PM
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I guess it's just weird to hear them described as 3 players useless for next year when I was told moving two of the 3 required a top 10 prospect plus another piece; that's the only point.
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Basically all of the things that take minor leaguers the longest to figure out, he has already figured out.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 7:04 PM
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Trey can attest that I had reservations about making Winker a centerpiece. But I read up on him and figured he was worth three players I can't really use next year.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 7:04 PM
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Just because it's interesting, here are Oliver's 2018 projections for: G. Polanco - .342 wOBA; 120 RC+, O. Taveras - .361 wOBA; 134 RC+, J. Winker - .376 wOBA; 140 RC+
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Winker was a top 50 prospect (http://goo.gl/t0r0Z7), and BA recently said "he's a threat for 25-30 HR/year in his prime. He could be a monster." His OBP skills play up in LWTS.
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The standings ARE definitely broken. I had a 600-point lead a few weeks ago, and now i'm in second. I demand a recount!
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So a skyrocketing prospect and a $3 1000-point pitcher is 10% of Dylan TJS Bundy? I need this explained to me.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 5:56 PM
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I have a theory but I haven't quite figured a way to articulate it
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Anyway, it's not the first time I've had an owner demand a Taveras/Bundy level guy then turn and dump to another team for 10 percent of hunt, I just don't really get it
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So you went with 33 y/o Iwakuma?
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but Trey actually put together a series of real offers to consider. So that facilitated things. I guess I learned my lesson re: building around 35-year-olds.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 4:49 PM
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Fair point I guess....he's not on any top-50 lists. But I felt like his inclusion in midseason top-50s was a foregone conclusion with the year he's having. I also just got very little in the way of concrete trade offers for Ortiz/Lee. Some discussions,
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 4:48 PM
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Not complaining, but which prospect list did winkler make top 50 in? Bc yes I do have an OF in the top 100 lists...
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Plus you wouldn't part with those players, so why are we complaining about a package you wouldn't match?
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 3:31 PM
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Winker + Iwakuma is comparable value to just Sano or just Bundy imo. Both are recovering from major surgery.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 3:29 PM
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OK... I said very clearly that I was getting a top 50 prospect plus a decent piece. If my ask was a top 10 prospect by himself, that's just because there wasn't a Winker equivalent on your roster.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 3:27 PM
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Standings are frozen again, I think...
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Same here
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As far as I knew the ask was a top 10 prospect...
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Ortiz, Lee, and Aramis have value, but not a lot of value to my franchise. So the ask wasn't astronomical.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 12:08 PM
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Though, time can tell who got the most. As an example, since my Werth/Miller trade one is slashing .135/.289/.270 and the other .364/.405/.576. Only time tells trade success. (Says the least competitive, competitive team each year...)
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Damn. Quite a return on that trade...
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My team has the second-best offense in the league. ROFL.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 22, 2014 8:13 AM
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Hey, at least Correa doesn't have to have TJ...
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The Syndicate's trade block has been updated!
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I think I may be close with Lee and Ortiz. If you've messaged me about him, now's the time to put in an offer. Looking for a top-50 prospect and a useful major leaguer (that's what I have on the table).
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 21, 2014 8:21 PM
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June's highest-scoring 1B: Jonathan Lucroy.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 21, 2014 6:08 PM
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OK contenders, trying to give fair warning here, but I'm starting to lean toward moving Ortiz and Cliff Lee in the same trade. Holler if interested.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 21, 2014 1:04 PM
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Getting some interest in Ortiz and Cliff Lee. Both are available. Lee I view as a rental, but I am content to bring back Ortiz next year.
Eckfords ⚾ on
June 21, 2014 10:24 AM
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Lucky Strikes's trade block has been updated!
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Enrico Palazzo's trade block has been updated!
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http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/a-fire-sale-but-not-a-liquidation/
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This surprised me today, from BA: http://bit.ly/UW4fPl
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https://twitter.com/ChrisMuschong/status/479662657277284352
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