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Willing to bet we see a Harper for Longo deal sometime soon; Greinke could be in the mix too
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I feel like I have guys I could give away that could help immediately in 2013. We'll see what happens...
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FMW hasn't given any indication of what he wants for Longo yet that I know. My assumption is that he plans to compete in 2013 and if so have to think he's looking for established MLB pieces or top guys less than one year away
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debating whether to overpay just to keep him from the other contenders - definitel a sellers market right now.
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 9:39 PM
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I'm interested to see what the Longoria market ends up as, I honestly have no idea
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I'm not looking to acquire old guys and yes Teixeira is now an old guy.
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the idea he can be the major piece in a Longo deal seems as crazy as me trying to use Tex.
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 9:04 PM
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I agree with Enrico - not saying Konerko isn't valuable, just that at $22 I honestly wouldn't keep him. You can get that production cheaper.
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 9:03 PM
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I'll play the public trade offer game - I offered a package including Teixeira and Seager, promptly rejected so I don't think the borderline 10-12 1b route is the way FML is looking to go. My issue is I've spent all my chips already.
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 9:03 PM
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Looks like I was one day late trading for Stanton...just hope he doesn't use all his bullets before he finds his way in my lineup
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BP on baseball's new best 20 year old prospect? (Since Trout turned 21): https://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17952
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Looking for a catcher; prospects available
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sure I want him, that isn't the question. The relevant question is what is the opportunity cost of that $22. It differs from owner to owner, but I'm pretty sure I can find Konerko's 37 year old production elsewhere cheaper
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In no way am I saying studs don't matter. Just saying that when you get to the auction and there are four studs for 12 teams, Kinerko will look better when few alternatives remain.
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You don't want the 10th highest 1B starting on your team in a 12 team league with 40 man rosters and a DH slot?
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I get it though, were I fighting for 1st right now I would diminish the value of prospects and studs so that I could acquire both
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by "buy" I mean get teams to trade you players and loan dollars
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why not pay $60 for ALbert Pujols, and then buy expensive players after the draft since there is no hard salary cap?
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The argument that studs don't matter but middling producers at $20+ do is one that I'm not sure I buy
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Konerko is the 10th highest scoring 1B, which means he's barely a starter. The players closest to him in scoring at 1B cost $7, 9, 1, 3 and 14, and include luminaries like Corey Hart and Adam LaRoche
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The misconception is that you can try to "build around" studs in the draft. You can't. Paying $60 for Pujols in next years draft is a straight rental, no question. Picking up a $22 Konerko as you Util or 4th or 5th best bat has value in a pennant race
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That's what everyone said last year. How many 1B will be available? Not many. Looks pretty good at $22 considering what's left
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37 years old on opening day and $22 doesn't sound like a rebuilding piece
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I offered Konerko as the main piece in a more complex offer. FMW doesn't have a 1B
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can we make this a public auction for Longoria on this message board? I will start the opening bid with Lonnie Chisenhall and Rymer Liriano
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Fielding offers for Zack Greinke. Can't trust him the last two months of this year, won't be re-signing him next year. Highest bidder gets him.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 8, 2012 4:33 PM
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So that everyone knows and that nobody is angry that they did not have a chance to acquire him, Longoria is available. I'll take the best deal I have on the table at the end of the day tomorrow.
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I have reconsidered his untouchability since it seems like some of the contenders may be willing to pay for him and he takes up a big chunk of my 2013 budget.
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wait weren't you the one that said he was untouchable? I'm so confused
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Longoria is a $52 player at his best. Obviously he hasn't been a $52 player this season but he has some value to a contender down the stretch. Why not cash that in?
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+1 Crying
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I haven't done a count, but isn't the same thing usually true about 2B? i.e., there aren't a ton of prospects *listed* there, but that's because MLB 1B/2B usually come from converted SS/3B.
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Interesting thing I noticed yesterday: How few 1B prospects there are in the game. Sure, guys like Sano probably destined for 1B, but I think I counted maybe two on several top 100 lists?
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I think at his best he is for sure a $52 player, there's just so much injury risk there. If you cut him I doubt you would have to pay more than $50 to re-win him. But if you like him then why mess around.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 8, 2012 8:36 AM
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of course, I'll make another offer
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 8:35 AM
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don't be talked into trading him, if you see him as a keeper man keep him, you are probably right.
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 8:31 AM
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Since apparently people think I'm an idiot to keep Longoria, I will listen to offers. I'd like some MI types in return.
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Konerko available; looking for SP and MI
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Still seeking a big OF bat. Even if Harper is too pricey for your liking, Carter and Cain both looking like great holds for next year. Baez further away but his stock is rising.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 8, 2012 8:15 AM
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WAR Horse's trading block has been updated!
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 8, 2012 8:13 AM
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Sosa's corked bat had a 10 WAR season...that's in the HOF, right?
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Sosa had a 10 WAR season? That's not something I would've guessed. I rememeber his defense being mediocre at best.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 8, 2012 7:07 AM
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please be realistic - just received one of the most insane offers I've ever seen.
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 3:54 AM
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very motivated to make deal for 1b or SP upgrade
Caimans 🐊 on
August 8, 2012 1:07 AM
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Of those players that have posted 10 WAR seasons, exactly two are not yet in the HOF (ARod in 2000 and Sosa in 2001)
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Mike Trout has 6.9 WAR, on pace for 11 this season. Since 1900, there have been 45 seasons of 10 WAR, one of which was by a player under 23 (Ted Williams)
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Now that I've got Andrus, thinking of moving one of my bigtime SS prospects for a solid 2013 bat if possible send me a message if you're interested
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Knights's trading block has been updated!
Caimans 🐊 on
August 7, 2012 11:46 PM
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you're keeping Longoria at $52??
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Lucky Strikes's trading block has been updated!
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