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I don't know, Loney sucks but they gave up two top 100 guys plus assumed most of the cash on the deals? Thats what I don't get, I thought Boston would either eat salary (to get prospects) or not eat salary and take crappy guys
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I don't buy the "freaked out by big market" argument with Greinke. You only get so many chances to buy a talent like that in his prime. As for Hamilton, he will be a bad signing for whoever signs him. But in priggish New England he would be a disaster.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 12:29 PM
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The rotation is a mess, for sure. But now they can buy pitching. I hear the Rocket is available.....
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 12:27 PM
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Greinke and Hamilton would be terrible fits in Boston
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Sox have zero pitching, and that counts Lester. Just don't see it for them. This trade puts them back a few years, but that may be ok. Flexibility isn't bad
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I could see both teams reaching the playoffs for the next several seasons. Dodgers really need to lock up Kershaw though. He is even more important than Kemp playing in that division.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 12:19 PM
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oh you meany the red sox
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Zach Lee and Castellanos are good starts. It's also not like they only acquired a couple aging guys like Soriano or Dunn
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I dunno, Greinke? They have quite a bit of talent, I think that mix of players was just not working.
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August 25, 2012 12:15 PM
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Who are they going to retool with?
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Great deal for Boston obviously but for much different reasons. They now have the $$ flexibility to retool for 2013-2015, and they have a lot of offensive help coming via farm system.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 11:46 AM
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Basically they improved their roster tenfold over 2012-2015 without giving up any highly rated prospects.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 11:45 AM
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5) Dave Cameron is obsessed with the contract obligations, but a) there is no salary cap in baseball, b) LA has an ownership group and a television deal that make salary obligations irrelevant.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 11:45 AM
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4) The best player LA gave up was a player named "Rubby." I mean, come on.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 11:44 AM
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3) Beckett has been bad, but he's too young to be toast. He needed a change of scenery, and I expect a BIG bounceback in that league, division, and ballpark. He could be great for them.
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August 25, 2012 11:43 AM
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2) Crawford was playing extremely well before opting for TJ. He is still relatively young, he's a tremendous ballplayer when healthy, and I always felt he was better suited to the NL. He will be a triples and steals machine in that ballpark.
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August 25, 2012 11:42 AM
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1) They fill a decade-old hole at 1B with a player who is likely to be an all-star for the life of his contract.
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August 25, 2012 11:41 AM
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The Fangraphs crew is really skewering the Dodgers for this, but reasons why I like this deal for LA:
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 11:40 AM
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I think there have been deals with more talented players going each way, but nothing close in terms of dollars.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 11:40 AM
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Not to be outdone by an 8 player Ottoneu swap, looks like Cherington has one of his own. Biggest blockbuster I can remember...
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For anyone still thinking 2013, willing to move few parts that may help: Aramis Ramirez, Beltran, Rutledge, etc. Looking for prospects.
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Lucky Strikes's trading block has been updated!
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WAR Horse's trading block has been updated!
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 8:43 AM
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Yeah at this point it more about who can throw the most IP, not the best IP. Which is why I am effectively done.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 25, 2012 8:35 AM
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not as close as it seems, now over 30 IP ahead
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August 25, 2012 4:48 AM
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not as close as it
Caimans 🐊 on
August 25, 2012 4:48 AM
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Knights quickly cutting into the lead; there's a reason I'm still making moves...
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Interesting. I will be interested to hear who people think the 2013 early leader is at the end of this year
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I need to open up some cap space -- anyone looking for cheap prospects, I would love to deal Choice/Cox/Austin/Cole/Giolito for almost nothing to let me know...
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That's almost as loose a definition of "studs" as my earlier definition of "top 100 prospects."
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August 24, 2012 8:08 PM
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Could be years before I'm this close again. Will really miss Singleton and Cespedes. I have about 10 studs I can trade in the off season to get back some prospects, but goal is to win now. Durham my favorite to win in '13 already...
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Durham Tobacconists's trading block has been updated!
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Well at this point I'm sort of inclined to just hold tight until after the vote-off, but if you see anything you like feel free to make an offer. Looking for prospects or just cheap upside generally.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 24, 2012 6:26 PM
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I don't believe he does
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Does Wainwright have an IP ceiling this year?
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August 24, 2012 6:15 PM
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Yeah that is one hell of a deal for Durham. Apparently Trey believes that his massive lead is in jeopardy...not sure I share that belief, but OK.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 24, 2012 6:15 PM
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I hated to give up Waino but the package was too enticing. Since we're on the topic of prospects, I love my 8 (including Singleton).
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I hate that trade for me though
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August 24, 2012 5:20 PM
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love that trade for Durham
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Yeah I was joking earlier, there's no way I have more than Enrico. You've got 12-15 though, really? a) I'll have to do a quick count to corroborate, b) you'll have to trade some of them to me.
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August 24, 2012 3:09 PM
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get it line...youre still behind my 12-15...I'm sure Enrico has more though
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Good call -- I did not. With Russell and Polanco I'm going with the somewhat liberal estimate of 10 in the top-100.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 24, 2012 2:58 PM
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WAR, did you count Addison Russell in your 8??
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Although last I checked Buxton was off to sort of an underwhelming pro start.
Eckfords ⚾ on
August 24, 2012 2:12 PM
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Yeah those three are certainly top 100, Zunino and Buxton possibly top 50 to open 2013.
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August 24, 2012 2:11 PM
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haha. I doubt it but we'll see, some of my new guys (Zunino, Correa Buxton) haven't been eligible for top 100 yet but I assume will be there when the new lists come out
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I now have 8 top 100 prospects Porter. Have I caught you??
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August 24, 2012 2:04 PM
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Verlander gave up a home run last night and still scored 58 points.
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I wish Lucas Giolito had decided to get TJ about 10 days ago when I picked him up
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The Syndicate's trading block has been updated!
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