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No point in waiting if approved. Bad rule, great rule change. Everyone has and will be playing by the same set of rules.
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I really, really hate the vote-off system. But I think I'm with EP on this one regarding timing. The main issue is NOT a bunch of specific things one might have done differently, but the process for rule changing; I think a full season's notice is fair.
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plus you are guaranteed to keep them at still "below market" value or trade them for more pieces
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Your total increase is only going to be $33 which is the net of what you would have had to pay to keep Trout at the auction. I don't see how that is any worse than say $20 of that going to Trout and the other $13 allocated over the other 5 guys you have
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I kinda see Enrico's point, but wouldn't advocate waiting a year. What exactly would you have done differently throughout the year? As soon as this season is over, you can begin trading some of those guys for many more pieces to spread out your increase
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if people really want this, then great, let's make the vote now, and then implement the change at the end of the 2013 season
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the biggest issue I haven't isn't necessarily the substance, its this idea that we can change the rules with no notice and without regard to the disruption that it causes, that is complete BS IMHO
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in essence, this changes the rules so that the advantage I gained by sacrificing a year to rebuilding is smaller than it should have been. I mean, I guess that's ok, but then what change happens next year after I play by the new rules prior to the change
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My views of Stephen Strasburg, Buster Posey, Jay Bruce, Chris Sale and others all were based on the fact that I knew exactly what their price was for next season. Now any or all of them can increase significantly while Trout's also increases significantl
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than complain for years to come
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I think Enrico is right that it would have affected some of our trade strategies...I know for certain it would have for me. That being said, I like this rule much better for the long term and would rather make the change now and get it over with rather..
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My initial reaction, going into 2013, is that this new rule really helps those teams with one "obvious" vote off candiate, and really hurts the most for the those teams with multiple vote-off or bargain candidates. Those teams will feel the pain much more
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Again, this is all early analysis on my part...Haven't really had a chance to review the landscape with the potential for this new rule in mind yet...
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Another benefit: It makes the "obvious" vote off candidate more valuable. Trout is now a guy I might consider trying to trade for in the off season now knowing he won't get voted off my team. Means he should be more valuable to you, too...
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To clarify, just asking how it would impact your thinking about trades. If anything, it should make you more aggressive to acquire cheaper, younger players.
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Let's assume for a minute that we're already under the new process - how would it impact your trades? Aren't you still trying to acquire the best players at the best prices in an effort to win?
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it is not even close to the same, now we have the potential that multiple players are affected by unexpected price bumps, and of course trading throughout the rebuild process would have been processed very differently if that were a possibility
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Players act as a "shield" under the new rules just as they did in the vote off; they just don't get voted off your team in this process and allow you to make that decision, not the rest of the league, which makes sense to me.
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As for how the change might impact the way you've built, I can see that argument, but it doesn't make all that much difference. For Enrico, it makes almost no difference - Trout was going anyway, and he still protects all the other players.
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We can certainly put it to a vote, but just based on the initial feedback I've seen it's likely to be accepted.
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league owners, whether they're competing for this year or future, shouldn't have huge rule changes implemented that may have affected the way they built
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and second, this idea that being able to keep Trout at $53 is some kind of windfall is kind of silly in my opinion
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Is it a foregone conclusion that this league is switching? As I've said before, I think it's horrific precedent to have teams build on a set of assumptions, and then with no notice change that set of assumptions, as this kind of change would be
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If I'm Enrico, I'm thrilled with this news. Trout was as good as gone, and guaranteed to go for $50+. Now he knows he can keep Trout at market (or below) price along with everyone else and know exactly what he can spend in the draft.
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You wouldn't have gotten Trout for $79....
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Yeah, this is definitely great news for Enrico...
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Now I can't buy Mike Trout for $79. Not sure if that's good or bad news.
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 18, 2012 9:01 AM
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Love it, makes me very happy!
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I love it!!!!!
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HUGE News: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/new-and-improved-ottoneu-arbitration-process/
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The Rockies are such a confused team. No leadership from the front office whatsoever. The team has some good bats but has no idea what to do with them.
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I will never own that guy on any fantasy team ever again.
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 17, 2012 8:00 AM
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I just lost a game that would have put me in the playoffs by six points. Started Tulo over Aybar.
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 17, 2012 7:59 AM
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Some big points all around today. Will have a "points playoff" update tomorrow.
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It has the ring of some kind of machismo thing, like he's trying to prove something to somebody. It's really just symbolic/pointless.
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 16, 2012 12:51 PM
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I like Tulo, but agree...what's the point of playing like five games to end the season. What a horrific season for the Rockies
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I had him stashed in two leagues for months.
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 16, 2012 10:24 AM
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Just read that Tulo is aiming to return for the final week of the season. What a five-letter-female-anatomy-word that guy is.
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 16, 2012 10:24 AM
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Huge night for Knights
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How sweet of a promo day is this: https://twitter.com/Royals/status/246753043880759296/photo/1
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 14, 2012 8:12 PM
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When Torii Hunter and Coco Crisp get hot, nobody's safe.
Eckfords ⚾ on
September 14, 2012 3:08 PM
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I passed him in IP while he blew back by me in points - exactly as I saw it happening, really.
Caimans 🐊 on
September 14, 2012 11:05 AM
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Still surprised how WAR has held on minus CarGo, Felix, Pujols
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2-4th place a jumble right now, Strikes still in striking distance if one of the three teams gets hot.
Caimans 🐊 on
September 14, 2012 10:15 AM
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I need a 0-0 tie with 25k no hitters for both sides going into the 10th tonight in Yanks-Rays game.
Caimans 🐊 on
September 14, 2012 10:14 AM
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Ottoneu just posted on facebook that the 60-day DL is a pain in their neck, don't cut anybody, they'll fix it shortly.
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Unfortunately I have no access to "fix" lineups due to this 60 day DL issue. It's got to come from Niv - tweet him.
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Yes, that error message is getting pretty annoying.
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Is everyone getting the invalid team thing again?
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if I spend like I did this past auction and hit on a few guys like I did with EE, AJax, and Willingham and not decide that 400 points back in May is too much and sell off, then I should be fine
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