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I've voted on about 5 or 6 teams; the rest I really need to sit down and think about...lots of options on some teams, few on others, and some there are no obvious choices
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i think we should just let it play out rather than enacting earlier rules, it doesn't matter and people can just wait to see if anything changes before the 15th
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30 days seems WAY too long if you can't change your vote. Might as well wait till the last day. Anyone want to enact an arbitrary deadline that is sooner?
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Just looked through the teams and surprised at few good vote off candidates there are. I may be registering several "No One" votes this year.
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can you really not change your vote? that's crazy
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and I'm done voting - can I trade now?
Caimans 🐊 on
October 16, 2012 11:36 AM
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Anyone still experiencing that issue? Looks fine to me now, first time I've checked.
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Same problem I'm seeing...
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I don't think its working right now...when I click on Strikes team for instance, it only has Verlanders name sitting there...same thing with about half the other teams and I haven't voted on anyone yet
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Can't change votes once submitted, so no great advantage to voting early...
Eckfords ⚾ on
October 16, 2012 8:23 AM
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Arbitration voting now open...
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That Cards-Nats game was unbelievable. What a choke job by the Nats.
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Harper saving his best for last...
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The Os-Yanks series has featured the worst collective hitting I can remember in any playoff series, so I like Detroit's chances at this point.
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DET looks poised to stay strong after that 5 game series vs. OAK. Three weeks ago I didn't think DET would make the playoffs. They could be that team that gets "hot" and steamrolls to victory...
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3 losses in a row at home. Pretty sad.
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Reds get bounced...
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Meanwhile, a $20 Headley is to your benefit even if you don't want him because he makes every other player in the pool relatively cheaper for you.
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A $45 Cano bid from you is still a cheaper Cano for Strikes than he is now. That's not helpful to anyone except Strikes.
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so using my vote off to throw him back in isnt helping me try to get someone that "I NEED" to help me better my team next year
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I would rather pay $45 for $45 of production in Cano than risk voting off Headley and trying to guess at a value....I want to vote off guys I am willing to pay for and will have a more stable future. I don't think Headley will be worth $25 next year
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trey gets $30 production for $5.
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If you don't think Headley is worth his market price, then don't bid on him. There will be one owner who thinks he is and he'll be forced to pay. Meanwhile, by voting him off, you get protection against the case that this wasn't a career year and
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The same is true with Moore
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In that case, voting of Hosmer was the right move. Not only did it protect against the case that Hosmer was the first tier prospect he was supposed to be, every team except for the one that bought him benefitted from his eventual too-high price.
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Hasn't he made it pretty clear as part of this conversation that he values having big ticket stars?
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Durham...my team had Hosmer voted off last year and he went for much higher than he should have...ESPECIALLY looking back on his awful season. Paying market price for a Headley after a career year is almost riskier
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It's unlikely, but depending on who else is thrown back in the pool he may not be as interested in the significant cost of those guys
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Besides, Strikes could decide that after Cano or Braun gets voted off that he likes the extra flexibility in spending at the auction and not spend that much on a single player...if anyone needs to save some money, it's him.
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(2) making you spend an extra $3. The risk/reward doesn't seem like much when the alternative is voting for someone who can easily return a profit for one or more years at their current price.
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I would rather pay $47+ for Cano rather than $57+ for Braun
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It's possible. My point is that someone would have to drive the price up to $47 just to make Cano the same price as he is now for you. Even if someone is willing to bid up to $50, they'll end up either (1) overpaying for Cano or
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Won't other owners be driving up the price because of that though? I think that happened last year
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If someone will pay $40 for Cano, you can bid $41 and get him for $6 cheaper than he costs you now.
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Durham, not necessarily - it may just mean you want to pay $40 for him, or it's worth your vote for a chance to remove him from my team and add him to another. I think that's where I see the strategy come into play
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WGW said exactly what I've been expecting - that Cano would get voted off my team because Headley likely had a career year. Same as my Aaron Hill vs. Votto/Miggy argument.
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I just don't understand the premise of voting for someone who is already being paid a fair market price. If you're voting for Cano, you're assuming that someone is going to spend more than $47 on him next year.
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for instance, I will probably use a vote on Matt Harvey at $6 instead of on Felix at $47 on FMW's team
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that strategy may not work for everyone though...I just don't think Strikes's best deals (Headley) are worth a vote off because of their likelihood to repeat.
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while we are talking about vote-off strategies, I am voting off Cano over Braun because of position scarcity...Cano is probably twice as productive as a free agent 2B over Braun and his FA replacement
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also, yesterday was a frustrating day of baseball...none of the teams I wanted to win actually won until after I went to sleep...maybe that is telling me something
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I agree with Crying on the pitcher slots...use your innings how you want, but I dont think that SP should be able to take up RP, or vice versa, slots
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Haven't checked in here in a while, but I've basically already told Trey that I'll be voting Braun off his team. I'm in agreement with him on the strategy.
Eckfords ⚾ on
October 11, 2012 8:28 AM
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Today should be a great day of baseball...
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I'd also be fine with no distinguishing - but that necessitates 10 "pitcher" slots, not 5 SP, 5 RP.
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I agree with Knights - RP/SP eligibility is quirky, but "in-practice" SP innings vs RP innings are concrete. The big sites should implement that in H2H formats.
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To me it's dumb to distinguish sp from RP -- you had 1500 innings play whatever pitchers you want just like mlb
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May need another poll...
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A thought: Like last year, we could internally set an earlier deadline for league arbitration and afterwards I could process trades "as commish" before November 15th. Thoughts from the league?
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Saw that too - I actually like it. Not a big fan of workarounds like that, even though I took full advantage this year with Wade Davis and Andrew Miller.
Caimans 🐊 on
October 10, 2012 6:22 PM
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