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This is like throwing a grenade and running....check out Nate Silver's 538 blog post about Miguel Cabrera...
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Niv is on vacation, or I'd tweet him asking.
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My question too. Not sure if tonight at midnight is the deadline, or tomorrow midnight...
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With you bro.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 11:19 AM
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so is tonight at midnight when Arbitration ends or is it at the end of the 15th? I'm dying over here
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Wins per dollar only goes so far with the fans though...and they are paying the bills
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Another reason Miami will have no problem signing free agents is that it is such a tax-friendly state. I agree with Nate that they can't really get worse from a wins-per-dollar perspective than they were in 2012.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 11:13 AM
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It helps Toronto win in 2013-14, but will help Miami to be competitive over a longer term.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 11:13 AM
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No getting around the fact that the team on the field last year was expensive, healthy (largely), and awful. The move does reflect a commitment to winning, even if short-sighted fans don't see it.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 11:12 AM
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I do like the trade from a pure baseball perspective though...but its going to be hard to appease Stanton and keep him from asking for a trade
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And apparently Loria signed a 10 year ownership agreement as part of the new stadium financing so I'm not sure how easily he could sell it if the City has to get involved in negotiations
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I saw a news item last night that said the public funding was going to end up costing the city of Miami and its taxpayers upwards of $2 billion in total costs when it only cost less than that to build
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though moving these should make the team easier to sell, I'd think, so maybe this is a precursor
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its definitely the right move to dump them purely from a baseball perspective, but coming on the heels of a new stadium and a supposed commitment to winning is just a black eye that I'm surprised Bud isn't blocking
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The Red Sox wouldn't tolerate them because Boston is a legit baseball town. Are we really to believe that Miami is up in arms/indignant? They don't care about baseball! Ticket sales don't lie.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 10:44 AM
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Hanley and Reyes are bad clubhouse guys. Johnson is injury prone and thus unreliable. Bueherle just plain sucks. Sounds like addition by subtraction to me.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 10:42 AM
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Miami being a bad baseball town should surprise no one. The fact that they dished out big and bad contracts....happens to the best of organizations. At least they have the fortitude to call a duck a duck and treat those investments as sunk costs.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 10:42 AM
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not all that different from what the Red Sox did, but I don't fear the Red Sox tolerating fire sales every couple of years
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Selig took over the Expos before moving and selling them, I can't believe we're not approaching that point with MIA
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Agree; they may not sign another free agent again until Loria leaves. Their farm system is ok, not great. Highly doubtful Stanton signs a long term deal now...
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But it's fun to poke at their "stinginess."
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I agree, I don't get the whole "Poor Stanton" handwringing - the team sucked last year. Will they really win less than 63 games without those guys?
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I would think they're going to have a problem with free agents from here on out
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Even after that trade that organization is stronger top-to-bottom than NYM, PHI, and ATL.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 10:02 AM
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If you have bloated salaries that don't create wins on the field, you dump them ASAP. That organization has a bright future if they hold Stanton.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 10:01 AM
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Well make no mistake this is a very smart baseball move by Miami. Don't let Buster Olney tell you otherwise.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 10:00 AM
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Maybe they know Lebron is planning to make the switch next year...
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It kind of amazes me Selig is letting this happen right after the stadium got built, I mean what does the best interest of baseball clause mean?
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I could field a more expensive team than the 2013 Marlins with a small business loan
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except that they probably see a window with their team and the fact that BOS is way down
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so seems like a lot of talent but from an asset perspective, I don't think its necessarily a great move for TOR
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Reyes turns 30 next season and is owed $92M over the next 5 years and John Buck is John Buck
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I don't know how much market value a lot of those assets had -- Buehrle is owed $51M over 13-15, JJ is a free agent after $13M in 2013 so he's either gonna be hurt or in for a big payday
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Hell, why not Gose AND Marisnick. For a talent swap of that magnitude your initial demand should be "give me your top five rated prospects." And you should get them.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 14, 2012 9:05 AM
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actually more than that since you need $1 for every empty space too
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and somehow at least $166 needs to come off the books
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I think EE will be touchable once arbitration voting ends . . .
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marisnick has more fantasy upside than Gose . . . agreed they ought to get Syndergaard. Wonder how long until Stanton demands out
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Wishful thinking if you think I'm cutting all of those pitchers on my block. And yea, Chipper is as untouchable as EE.
Caimans 🐊 on
November 14, 2012 1:19 AM
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Chicago Chiefs's trading block has been updated!
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Holy crap! Just got out of seeing Skyfall and I see the sky is falling for the Marlins. Wow. WTF?
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WTF, they didn't get Gose or Syndegaard?
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 13, 2012 7:22 PM
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Now THAT'S a trade.
Eckfords ⚾ on
November 13, 2012 7:21 PM
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I think the Marlins just made a trade with Trey....wow....
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maybe we can just post a league message that all the players that are getting cut before the roster lock in Jan are available
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yeah the thing about that though is that everyone knows that all of those guys are available anyway...no shockers if traded
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Durham Tobacconists's trading block has been updated!
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You know our league is good when teams pre-load their On the Block pages at least 48 hours before trading can begin...
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Take note, Branham: Chipper isn't listed on Knight's OTB. He's untouchable, and should be...
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Knights's trading block has been updated!
Caimans 🐊 on
November 13, 2012 2:50 PM
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