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I don't really see how this is a terrible trade for SEA except that they have five or six 1B/DH types. I'd rather have Morse than Jaso, all things being equal.
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The Yanks are going to give up Granderson for Jaso?
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Which Razzball would no doubt dub a "blahtoon."
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:37 PM
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They should use a Joe Girardi / Gary Sanchez platoon.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:37 PM
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if they wanted a big bat with only a year left under contract I'm surprised they didn't try to go get Granderson the Yanks desperately need a C and desperately need to unload salary (according to them)
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But the Morse and Morales acquisitions send the impression that they are trying to make a 2013 playoff run. Good luck with that. That team blows even with all the acquisitions.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:30 PM
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so they have to settle for the Mike Morses of the world.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:28 PM
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I like Morse as a bat pure and simple but yes, he can't field, and they are collecting goonish 1B/DH types at an alarming rate. In their defense their park is so ridiculous that they have no prayer of signing a legit superstar in free agency,
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:28 PM
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I'm not saying Jaso is untradeable, but jesus go get more than Mike Morse one year before FA when you've got 7 other 1B/DH guys already
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Jaso can't hit lefties, but he's a catcher with I think 3 years left of team control and a career 125 wRC+ against RHP
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Morse and Jaso are both retreads, but they got the retread who hits home runs.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:19 PM
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His track record is every bit as suspect as Morse's.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:18 PM
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Power is a skill that Morse has while most other Mariners don't. They have like two of the decades top-5 catching prospects what do they need John Jaso for? Dude is a scrub.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:18 PM
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Haha! Love that you are so excited about this, Enrico!
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I do agree the M's must absolutely believe that Zunino is up at the Super2 deadline at the latest, if not on Opening Day
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Uhm, okay.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:15 PM
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Morse has hit more than 18 HRs once, and at some point health is a skill. Also, here is the wRC+ leaderboard: http://tinyurl.com/alw6ax4. Jaso's 143 just ahead of Adrian Beltre, Josh Hamilton and David Wright
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While on the subject, has anyone ever met Morse? He's a monster. Not relevant at all, but he still haunts my dreams...simultaneously making them wonderful.
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Seattle got a player capable of hitting 30 HR without giving up a prospect. Pretty nice arrangement for them. Trade is a huge endorsement for Zunino, they must feel he can catch 50-100 games at a minimum.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:10 PM
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That's a swift kick in the balls to Morse's fantasy value.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 8:08 PM
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also, who is catching for them? I haven't seen too many observers thinking Montero can catch 100+ games at the ML level
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Zunino isn't ready anyway. He's close but there's no way they are bringing him up to play this soon.
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Are we sure Morse delivers more offense than Jaso?
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But if you're SEA, you need offense. I'd rather give up Jaso for Morse than Walker/Franklin+ for Upton. But let's face it, they aren't in contention with either Morse or Upton
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i will also laugh when Billy Beane turns around and trades Jaso to the Yankees for something better than Mike Morse
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even if Zunino is ready right away there's no reason to give Jaso away for an oft injured 31 year old with only 1 year of control remaining; they would have been better served merely to get AJ Cole if they insisted on trading Jaso
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Oh, and forgot 'DH days' for 42 yr old Ibanez, too. They have more defensively ineffective players than the Yankees. That, my friends, is saying something!
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Well, if Zunino comes up this year, it's a little odd configuration unless you are absolutely sure you put Morse in OF. Otherwise you have Smoak, Morales, Montero, Morse all vying for 1B/DH slots.
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Twitter really tearing up "Jaso for Morse" trade. Is it really that bad when you have Zunino waiting in the wings?
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These next two weeks are a long stretch till the cut deadline, and that's just one arbitrary, exciting moment before another 30+ days till anything close to interesting happens. Ugh.
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Looking forward to seeing Greinke pitch for the Dodgers...excited to see how Kipnis matures, he has star potential if he matures a little.
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I'm pretty excited to see what Salvador Perez can do with a full season.
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I am most excited about Rizzo and Middlebrooks....Bill James' projections are overly optimistic probably, but I'm ready for their continued development
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I'd honestly be surprised if shelby didn't have a nice impact this year. Branham couldn't give him away a few months ago.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 9:54 AM
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They won't match the hype, but very excited to watch Wil Myers and Shelby Miller grow up on my team this season. Both have the skills to thrive as early as this season, but likely several seasons away from real impact. Growing pains but fun to watch.
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On the pitching side, if he can find a way to stop mutilating himself, I can see Cashner being one of the best pitchers in the NL West. Bill James projections are rosy and I'm a believer as well.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 9:11 AM
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Expecting big things from Jonathan Lucroy. Catchers tend to be late bloomers with the bat, as evidence by Yadier and Ruiz. Think Lucroy is poised to break into that top tier.
Eckfords ⚾ on
January 16, 2013 9:10 AM
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Big season: Justin Upton. I think he's primed for it. Highest expectation: Ike. I'm expecting (hoping, maybe) him to take a step towards 1st tier NL 1B. Given his much improved 2nd half performance, I think he's poised for the next step.
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Today's topic: Which player(s) on your team are you most excited to see step up with a big season in 2013? Which players do you have the highest expectations for on your squad?
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The Syndicate's trading block has been updated!
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1) Felix, 2) Greinke, 3) Fister, 4) Kennedy, 5) Cahill / Kimbrel, Hanrahan, Rodney, Perez, Balfour - Yeah, I'd say the Syndicate has built one of the best pitching staffs in the league ("on paper"). Impressive.
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can someone do a search and see how many posts of Lucky saying "I'm done" there are?
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While no one is off limits, I've pretty much traded away every piece I could this off season. Feel free to make any offers but (gulp), I'm likely done. If anyone wants Joyce, he'd be cheap.
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The Nats are going to be very, very good in 2013...
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I like that trade for Branham. Until Upton/Kubel is dealt, Eaton may not have a home
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How insane was Grady Sizemore's fall from grace? Three season over 1,000 points and now isn't worth $5
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Phew! Happy to see Soriano not sit this season out...
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I'd love to get Verlander for $45, but I don't think he lands anywhere close to that
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Full disclosure: I plan to bid aggressively on elite guys and trade them (or keep the) for more pieces at the deadline. Once the season begins their salary matters very little to me since I'm not competing for 2013
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Not trying to drive up prices; I fully plan to be genuinely in on the bidding for guys like Kershaw, Verlander, etc, and their final cost matters less to me than any other team
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