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this trade gets me $45
Caimans 🐊 on
March 4, 2013 12:09 AM
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I release him - I get a max of $42
Caimans 🐊 on
March 4, 2013 12:09 AM
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why would I release him when I can get more money by trading him!?!?!?!?!?
Caimans 🐊 on
March 4, 2013 12:09 AM
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So you you're okay with the concept of Pujols bring traded for $3?
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I guess we'll see. I cannot imagine the trade not getting vetoed but I suppose we'll see. Hopefully once it does get vetoed Knights can shop around for a real trade or release
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I was still drafting when you made the deal
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yes, you got $3 more than cutting him. That cannot possibly be the reason you didn't go do a real trade for him that would return you guys that may help you, not FA post draft waiver guys...
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That's the point EP - I got even more money than I would have by cutting him.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 4, 2013 12:06 AM
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One thing not mentioned: Trading Pujols to my team doesn't strengthen one of the Knights competitors...
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I considered cutting him, but got an extra $3. If any of you were willing to provide $45+ of value (in players or space) I would think you would've done it during the auction.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 4, 2013 12:05 AM
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you seem to be pretending that Knights couldn't open up $42 by cutting him, which of course isn't true
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We agreed just after 10 EST. couldn't do the trade till after the draft was complete. I obviously want Pujols, and Knights offered him to me. I guess the league will decide. Knights have very little flexibility without cash.
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b/c by definition any player +40 would basically make you better off than in essence "cutting" Pujols but cutting him to one specific team rather than having him auctioned again
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You really think that nobody could offer you a player while giving you $40 of cap room? that is flat wrong.
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Either way, even if I had shopped it, still likely that would've been best offer. There are still plenty of guys I like out there, and cap space is valuable during season.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 4, 2013 12:00 AM
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it was agreed to at 10:05. I wa sjust waiting on the offer, wasn't going to back out after it had been agreed to. Strikes can confirm that time.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 4, 2013 12:00 AM
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That doesn't hold any water. You accepted the deal after draft.
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I still think that $45 will be plenty of value now.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:58 PM
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Has a lot to do with why I was so pissed when I couldn't.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:58 PM
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I thought I could spend that $45 over the cap limit and make the trade to get under after.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:57 PM
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Deal was done just after 10 pm
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:57 PM
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It did when I made the deal - I didn't know I wouldnt be able to use it right away.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:56 PM
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The issue isn't that Pujols went up in value, it's that $45 has little value now.
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I don't get the thought process that Pujols went up in value by more than $3 in just 4 hours though.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:54 PM
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I would've shopped him if I had waited until after. I still think that $45 would;ve been strongest offer though.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:53 PM
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Honestly, if I knew I couldn't go over the cap during the auction I don't make the deal. I agreed to it with over an hour left in auction thinking I could spend the money.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:52 PM
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I didn't (and still don't) think anyone can offer $45 in value in cap space the players I need within the next week or two, which was my timeline because I need to fill the rest of my roster.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:52 PM
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It's March 3. You font have to take the first offer you get.
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I can only play 2 of Ortiz, EE, and Pujols. Pujols had the lowest points per game of those 3 by a significant margin last year, and was the most expensive.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:51 PM
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a scrolling forum whole people have split attention is not exactly the best way to shop anyone
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There's a market for Pujols. Giving him away without even fielding offers is ridiculous.
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I wish I knew there was this much interest before making the deal - especially because I announced it in a forum where all of you were present.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:48 PM
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Knights could be in a very good position late in the season to pick up cut guys that won't be carried over
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I turned Pujols around for $3 more than I paid for him just 3 hours ago and you guys are flipping out - wow. If anything I thought Trey would be ridiculed for not just bidding $43.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:48 PM
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You don't need $45 to fill your roster
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what are you going to do with $42+ with the available guys...youre probably trying to win this year and that us the worst move possible....trade a $16 Youk for cap space
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Every player didn't just shoot up in value because the auction is over.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:46 PM
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that's a completely ridiculous argument Enrico. The cap space was slightly more valuable during the auction and I wish I could've used it, but I still have spots to fill and need the money.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:46 PM
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you could get a prospect or two, or some major leaguers, or whatever, and still get the cap space
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honestly this deal was done with an hour left in the draft. I should've been able to spend the money at auction and it would;ve made a lot more sense.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:45 PM
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now that the auction is over and you can make loans, the Cap space is essentially (not entirely but pretty much) valueless so handing away a top 10 guy makes little sense.
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I don't get the backlash- I signed him at auction for $42. I traded him and got $45 back, or more than he was valued at just 3 hours ago. You guys confuse the hell out of me sometimes.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:43 PM
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I also did not fill my BP or OF, so whether there is good players left or not I have to do it.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:42 PM
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I assume that all 10 of us disinterested parties will veto. If Pujols is really on the market though I suspect you'll get a good deal. Tehre are plenty of teams with cap space (and more that will create it for Pujols)
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I inquired and was told you had a deal. I have cap space to offer too.
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It's simple - I have 3 1B/DH types and only 2 places. I traded Pujols for $3 more than I paid for him 3 hours ago, so seems like a good deal to me. Any one of you could have had him for less in the auction.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:42 PM
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Vetoed. You can't just trade a top 10 player for nothing right after the draft. Don't tell me the cap space is worth it when there's nobody good to add.
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give me a break Trey, everyone's entitled to their own opinion but you have to be kidding with that
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Bull Durham hates its founder...
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I made him available in the draft room after the EE signing, and Strikes is the only one who repsonded. I need the cap space and have nowhere to play him. Not one of you has the cap space to make a similar deal.
Caimans 🐊 on
March 3, 2013 11:40 PM
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