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Agree with that last point but I don't understand the resistance to MLB doing everything in its power to punish drug users. Sounds from most accounts I've read that even the majority of players agree.
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And it raises the question of whether a legal drug that cannot be detected by MLB testing is worth punishing at all. For me at least.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 23, 2013 7:59 AM
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guilt by association. Not arguing that Braun is innocent of drug use, just saying that their prosecution methods are way dirtier than the escalated suspensions for positive tests that are supposed to happen.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 23, 2013 7:58 AM
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MLB may have a mountain of evidence, but evidence in the form of trainers and other drug users talking about a player's drug use is not worth all that much, as we saw with Clemens. Their testing policy doesn't work, so they're resorting to slander and
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 23, 2013 7:56 AM
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In other news, Yasiel Puig overthrew first base tonight...from the warning track. Never seen that before.
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Yeah, I can agree that everyone has some egg on their face here. Braun's righteous indignation sure seems shitty now. And MLB has been terrible at handling this stuff for so long we have to measure it in decades now.
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I certainly was not justifying Braun in his handling of the situation after he "won"...simply that MLB acted very strangely in this whole situation just to try to save face for decades of mishandling
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And apparently the evidence again Braun pales in comparison to what they have on ARod...
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Totally agree. With how hard Braun "worked" to clear his name last time, his willingness to plea suggests MLB had enough evidence to bury him this time
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its one thing getting off on a technicality and saying nothing; he went further and straight up lied and demonized the investigator that's why people are pissed at him
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Shoeless Joes's trade block has been updated!
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MLB has a horrendous record with their punishments being referred to independent arbitrators. So they probably went to obscene lengths to get Braun to cave.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 22, 2013 8:21 PM
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They could not ban him for 100 games because it would not have withstood arbitration / appeal. So he had nothing to plead down from.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 22, 2013 8:19 PM
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They likely threatened to hound him and defame him indefinitely if he didn't agree. So you have a league office intentionally leaking defamatory stories about its star players. Dumbasses.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 22, 2013 8:15 PM
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They do have a mountain of evidence... But apparently not enough to suspend him by cba rules.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 22, 2013 8:13 PM
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The real story: https://twitter.com/NOTSCMLB/status/359455381891719168
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I agree with that characterization.
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He agreed to the suspension, that's why it's different. They had so much evidence he plead down to just 65 games
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It's basically just vindictive witch hunting to make up for their epic Bonds/clemens fails. And they have no HOF inductees. Whoops.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 22, 2013 8:11 PM
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Seems to me, given how.. differently.. Braun has reacted this time around, MLB must have a mountain of evidence from Bosch.
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I'm with WAR 100%
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It's amazing to me that MLB was able to strong-arm a suspension of a star player with no positive. Amazing that they would want to do that.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 22, 2013 8:09 PM
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They suspended EVERYBODY
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Are tonight's games like exhibition games or something?
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 22, 2013 7:54 PM
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They should strip away his MVP. 65 games is nothing. Owed $117 M thru 2020, on the back of roids
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Scratch that - I see he admitted it (finally)
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he agreed to it. no appeal
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I just saw about Braun. It's gotta get appealed, right?
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for those contenders, Jay Bruce is another guy who may be on the move so let me know if you are looking for offense
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What I read is that (a) he agreed to this (ie no appeal) and (b) for some reason the 50/100 stuff only apply as penalties for a positive test -- here there's no positive test, but overwhelming evidence of some violation...
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No one said Lowrie was a throw in, but I remember being unable to give him away last year b/c of his injury history. Considering he just now amassed his career high in PA as a soon to be 30 y/o, I'd say this may be his best...
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I thought the penalties were specified - 50 games,100 games, etc. Don't see how "remainder of the season" fits.
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re: Braun - Wow. Proposed a deal for Braun earlier today. I don't understand the suspension by guess we'll hear more about it soon.
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as a Cubs fan, I am pretty excited about the rumored deal for Garza with the Rangers
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there goes Braun
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I love that the 7th highest scoring SS in the league is a throw away. Sometimes I feel like I don't understand anything
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Taking final offers on Corbin as I have a deal on the table that I'm strongly considering accepting.
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Lowrie has been a top 12 MI for $6, don't think he's just a throwaway part of the deal. Depth I already had plus getting Utley made it doable for me, but Lowrie is a solid keeper.
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Great trade for Durham. Love the aggressiveness. Lowrie has been solid but that's basically Cespedes for an army of guys that help now. Should be a fun race to watch in the 2nd half...
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Opportunity cost of about 0.5 WAR foregone
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How much of that came from hitting Quentin?
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Amazing stat from today's FG post on Greinke - his hitting has been worth 0.9 WAR this season.
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@ottoneu 2m Looks like some DB errors are cropping up - investigating.
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Some weirdness still occurring for me.
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I had similar bizarre login/404 errors going on
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Shoeless Joes's trade block has been updated!
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Lucky Strikes's trade block has been updated!
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Durham Tobacconists's trade block has been updated!
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Anyone else having strange issues with the site this morning? Keeps going back and forth between normal and offseason mode for me.
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Wow, I guess Colon is matchup proof. Until I start him, that is.
Eckfords ⚾ on
July 21, 2013 7:23 PM
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