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💀The Ruffnecks💀's trade block has been updated!
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Getting rid of off-season trading feels like a sure fire way to make owners lose interest.
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yeah I wouldn't be in favor of restricting trading either
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What's the problem that banning offseason trades addresses? If anything, maybe ban between end of arbitration and keeper deadline to minimize trades involving drop players. But I don't think it's necessary.
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What do you guys think about banning offseason trades (after arb, before the draft)? In my other ottoneu league they are banned, and it seems to be the most abused part of the game. I usually like as much action as possible, but seeing as how we have decided we like a regulated market, seems logical we would take this next step. Vote on it?
Blue Jays on
June 15, 2018 6:15 PM
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An Asterisk On All Your Titles's trade block has been updated!
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June 11, 2018 3:40 PM
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June 11, 2018 9:39 AM
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Haven’t been able to match value with anyone on JD, so dangling Pham and Hoskins for a lower asking price. In addition, I’m concerned about Kershaw enough to consider selling low.
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For those of you looking at next year, I’m close to moving a $16 JD Martinez for pitching
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May 30, 2018 5:35 PM
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With Kershaw still out and Shark really sucking, I need another SP. Willing to trade Donaldson or Encarnacion for a good one.
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May 18, 2018 9:04 AM
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Blue Jays on
May 11, 2018 4:17 PM
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I agree that a lot of lines were crossed without purpose. A little decency doesn't effect the overall quality of an argument. I'm hopeful we can all learn a bit about how to treat one another from this, and that goes for me too. Life's hard enough without our game becoming a burden.
Blue Jays on
May 11, 2018 3:35 PM
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This one wouldn’t have been if not for the significant reaction and postings about it. Maybe that means we need to individually pay more attention to trades and be more active in vetoing trades that we believe go beyond the level of a bad trade, to being unfair. I’m not sure what the solution is.
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I'm fine with sharing thoughts on trades, and even some lighthearted ribbing so long as we don't cross the line. Also, I'm not especially concerned with Lando making trades. But there's an issue with relying on the veto system to keep trades in check. In that over the last 5 years, this has been the ONLY trade that has been vetoed. This has NOT been the only bad trade (although possibly the most most lopsided). It's very difficult for a trade to be vetoed.
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Also of note, the community website has a wealth of information for owners of all skill levels.
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I've mentioned it before, but getting everyone on slack can really up the communication level between owners.
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I don't want to start up another discussion here, but I would clarify that you should NOT veto a trade just because "you don't like it". Vetos are for extenuating circumstances - to prevent collusion and to protect league health. 99% of trades go through without anyone even voting. But enough people felt that trade was bad for the league and exercised the right to veto. I don't think it was a personal vendetta against anyone, just a statement on maintaining league health
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This is really a none issue because trades can be vetoed if enough owners agree. There were a lot of harsh words written that were unnecessary and unwanted. We should not try to make each other feel bad. Going forward I suggest just click the veto button if you don't like the trade and move on. Say nothing.
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I'll also try to share some of that information with the rest of the league as well to try to up the competition level. Hopefully that will also lead to some interesting discussions. So for the time being, please refrain from sending Lando any trade offers (he'll continue bidding on free agents). Thank you, and welcome back Lando.
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Okay guys, it looks like Lando was just expressing his frustration when he said he didn't want to continue playing. I've talked with him and he understands the trade was problematic and that we want him to improve. So he is going to take a break from making trades for a couple of months and I'm going to try and help get him up to speed.
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Midnight Gophers's trade block has been updated!
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I want to reiterate that if this trade is vetoed, I"m out. I've had 2 prior trades get reversed without veto, including one where we literally consulted the creator of Ottoneu himself and he said what I did was fine, and I still agreed to reverse even though it was permitted, just to be easy-going. I'm not spending my time running veto campaigns to thwart my opponents and structuring trades to be veto-proof - don't have the time. It's a fun league, and wouldn't be hard feeling. Just won't
Blue Jays on
May 10, 2018 1:14 PM
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I think the only problem just corrected itself.
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To everyone - I'm really sorry that this has gotten so ugly. If the league has a problem with how I've been running things, then I'm willing to step down as commissioner. Otherwise I'm very open to suggestions of how we can prevent a repeat of this.
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You seem to think we're all complainers and sore losers, so I very much look forward to you winning another league and proving all of us wrong. It just won't be this league. Good bye and good luck.
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As far as I've seen, myself and everyone else have directed their complaints towards your gameplay. No one has said anything personal. And that's the way it should be. No one has a personal issue with you. The problem is 100% with your gameplay, and that's where the focus has been.
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This game is very complex, and unfortunately everyone except you can see that you're not very good at it. And that's fine. Everyone is entitled to play however they want, EXCEPT when it threatens the overall league health, and that's clearly what has happened here. Hence all the angry messages and people wanting to quit.
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You were rightfully called out for accepting the trade, and I was certainly not the first one to do so. So excuse me for becoming frustrated and not remaining impartial when the league is in serious danger of collapsing. How childish and irresponsible of me to step in at that point. I'm trying to do the best I can in a difficult situation where I have to serve as both commissioner and competitor.
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In case you haven't noticed, this trade is in danger of tearing the league apart. Players have messaged me and told me that this league is not fun anymore and they are leaving. I can't say I blame them, because this has most certainly not been any fun. Whether you want to believe it or not, this is because of you accepting that trade, Lando.
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I've been commissioner of this league for five years and have remained impartial on virtually everything that has happened in that time - usually while also competing myself, which is harder than it may sound. Your complaint about my handling of the auction is comical. I don't know what sort of powers you think I have over other people placing bids using a common auction strategy. I can start, pause, and stop the auction. That's it.
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I’m hoping a nights sleep may have calmed some nerves. I’ve been reading along but mostly staying out of this because what’s he point? Everyone has an opinion, no one is going to change anyone’s mind. Please let us never discuss politics here…I’m all for debates, but it’s a problem when we start making personal attacks. Anyway, I hope no one leaves over this. And I hope we can all be respectful of viewpoints that we don’t agree with. Stay classy San Diego.
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I am sorry to see you, or anyone who want enjoy a fantasy baseball league feel they need to leave because of the postings of others, myself included. FWIW a phrase uttered by a friend years ago while playing D&D seems relevant here. When other players kept telling him what he should do during the adventure he yelled "You play your character how you want to play your character and I will play mine."
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I own a small successful business, I am on staff at my church, I have four amazing daughters and a beautiful wife. I joined Ottoneu to have fun - this was not fun. So ... I am done
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