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Sorry to instigate. While I concede my roster is a dumpster fire, I've executed a trade with just about everyone in this league, including Berman, since I took over the thome squad last winter. If he was making offers that created value for the other side, I'm sure he would have found takers. I have no issue with rebuilding strategy either, I'm doing it myself to an extent, but the trade was a giveaway that tilts the balance of the league. And I take no issue with Hamel Toes either, I'd do ..
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Interesting stuff about Berman's exploits in other leagues. I think we've got a good core group, and like to think of our top teams as a challenge to conquer ... one day!
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Definitely made the right call commish. Always enjoyed this league, looking forward to the rest of the season as long as Puig doesn't win...
Kemper Fi on
June 16, 2017 9:45 PM
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Turns out ABS is Berman in 2022. I got stuck with that clown in two leagues. Hilarious. What an A-hole. Good riddance. Nice job Commish! Dude needs to get a life. This league is awesome. Screw him!
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I'm actually in a 3rd league where I haven't done anything controversial. At least not yet.
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468. It got 5 vetoes but still passed and I managed to get into it with a couple people on that message board also, though I was on the Peavy side of the argument (just in base you guys thought I was a hypocrite for arguing for my trade in this league). That league is pretty crummy- not active and no one seems to have a clue what they are doing with the same two teams always winning. I'm new to Ottoneu so new to all of these leagues.
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Also insane. What's the league #? I have to see this with my own two eyes.
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Just for comparison purposes, in one of my other leagues I just traded for Amed Rosario. He is $6 in that league (and I also got Archie Bradley (at $1). To get him I had to trade Madison Bumgarner ($50), Ian Desmond ($21) A Ramos ($7) Yu Darvish ($27) and Christian Yelich ($32).
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I just checked into another Ottoneu league I play in and found messages from a problem owner in the league under team named ABS. He tried to trade away Tyson Ross, Sean Manaea, Stephen Piscotty, Amed Rosario for Carlos Gonzalez, Clayton Kershaw, Brad Hand, Kelvin Herrera, Jason Kipinis. Has caused major drama in the league and been a complete A-hole. I'm gonna post his messages in the next threads.
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I don't have a problem with teams that want to tank (think it's a legit strategy), though I also didn't think that was a particularly good trade. The issue here is that I don't think most of us would have wanted to deal with one GM ignoring warnings and insulting the league for the rest of the season. Hope y'all understand.
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I've removed Berman's GM from the league. Honestly would rather have an inactive team than a toxic GM.
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I like being the guy that everyone hates. This is fun!
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I should have known something was wrong with the league when I was able to pick up a team that was already paid for. Yes, this league is so bad that someone paid for a team and then quit before the year because the owners were so bad.
And I'm not looking for approval I just think it's pathetic that people veto a trade when they've rejected similar offers and show a complete lack of understanding of the rules.
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I don't usually take things too seriously on here, but Berman needs to grow up. Hurling insults and lashing out after making an objectively bad trade is not a great look. You made the move, now own it. Stop looking for approval and whining when you don't get it from a group of owners that's been together for 4 years now. Sorry commish, but someone had to say it.
Kemper Fi on
June 16, 2017 6:51 PM
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Ironically making that trade will probably keep me in the league. While this is by far the worst of the Ottoneu league's I joined this year I don't really have to worry about paying that much attention since no one is really interested in making a trade and I can monitor the waiver wire via email.
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I gotta stop reading this message board. I try to keep my cool, but it's making me do a shlo berm.
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Ok, I couldnt resist the last comment but I'm done now. Im sorry. I'm with the commish, will keep it cordial from here. Good luck to all the rest of the season and in the years ahead.
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I have no idea who Rosario is...Berman in 2022! Unless he throws a hissy and quits before then. Anybody want in on that action?
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Oh and Shlomo, I don't ever gamble but if I did I'd love to bet with you on who's team is going to finish higher in the standings this year. I'm pretty sure I could trade Votto, Carpenter and Verlander and still finish ahead of you. Heck, I might trade them away just to see how badly I can beat you with a payroll under $200.
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Shlomo- Do you even know who Rosario is? Or the fact that the only reason he isn't in the major leagues right now is because the Mets want him to avoid being a Super Two (assuming you even know what that is)? I hope the other guys make it to the major leagues one day as well. I never root against any player let alone 20 and 21 year old kids. I'm glad you feel the same way.
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Yes, 5 people vetoed because they do not understand the concept of a keeper league.
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Though a good number of GMs started off here as newcomers to otto, I think most of us have an idea of what the format is. One or two GMs being more experienced/successful doesn't mean it's cool to insults the rest of the league. Please keep things cordial.
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I hope Rosario and the rest of the guys you picked up today make it to MLB one day. What a pleasure to have in a "fun" league.
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Shlomo- your roster is a dumpster fire. In this format, I would rather have Rosario than every single player on your team. I asked you about Tanaka (a guy who is averaging 2 points per inning this year) and you asked for Moncada or Trea Turner in return.
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Berman, you can have anyone on my roster for that haul. Please send proposal...
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It's pretty sad that 5 people vetoed that trade when I've been offering similar deals to every team in the league and they've all been rejected. Do any of you (besides Duda) even understand the concept of a keeper league? From looking at the standings the last couple of years it seems pretty obvious that no one in the league, besides Duda and Puig, have any idea what they are doing. What a joke.
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I agree that the Berman Bombers' trade is a windfall for Hamel Toes, but I won't veto the trade because I think it's a legitimate strategy in a keeper league to tank this year for prospects that can help in later years.
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have OF/1B depth, looking to trade for a SS
Kemper Fi on
June 15, 2017 9:09 PM
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Is that this is what the market allowed me to acquired for those players.
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Dee's Nuts- I couldn't agree more but here's the problem- I've proposed multiple trades that are similar all all have been rejected or ignored. I've proposed trades where I've given up more and gotten less. I've proposed trades where I've given up less and gotten more and I've proposed trades where I've given up a similar package and gotten a similar package back. Every time it's either rejected or ignored. You may think I gave up to much and I may think I gave up to much but the simple fact
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All but two teams have been on the league site in the last day, so we should have enough votes to get a majority on the deal. Don't forget to approve or veto trades!
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Uh.. That's way too much to give up for Rosario. That trade should be vetoed. Need more in return for all of those guys.
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Votto, Carpenter and Verlander (among others) are still available. Looking for young, inexpensive major leaguers or upper level minor leaguers.
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Berman Bombers's trade block has been updated!
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I've always been under the impression this was a fairly active league, not terribly concerned about it
Kemper Fi on
June 13, 2017 11:46 PM
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My basic assumption about trades is that I'm making a mistake. So I'm always a bit shy. :-)
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League seems active enough to me. Players are being picked up off waivers and cut all the time. Never been a very trade-heavy league, though, but I've found a few willing partners over the years. Need to be persistent and creative to find something that works for both sides.
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I've had one team respond to messages, trade offers and trade block updates in the last two weeks. 9 of 12 teams may have logged in but that doesn't mean that they pay attention to this league (this is probably not their primary team). Sorry to say it but this league seems dead.
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Can't speak for myself, but Duda's been asleep at the switch since early April
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9 out of 12 teams checked the league today, so we have 3 inactive teams (one we knew of going into the season).
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Is anyone in this league active at all? Anyone?
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Straight Cash Thome's trade block has been updated!
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Berman Bombers's trade block has been updated!
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Rockaway Driftwood's trade block has been updated!
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Straight Cash Thome's trade block has been updated!
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Felix :-(
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Straight Cash Thome's trade block has been updated!
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Rockaway Driftwood's trade block has been updated!
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Papi Loves Mambo's trade block has been updated!
Kemper Fi on
April 23, 2017 1:34 PM
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Berman Bombers's trade block has been updated!
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