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my vote is for same structure as last year - LeagueSafe, only those who pay in can collect as winners, but with an increase to $50
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I like the $20 option as well, but open to suggestions
Alton Giants on
February 23, 2015 10:50 AM
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Would rather go for a $20 pay in as opposed to $50... if possible.
Proud Soyboys on
February 23, 2015 10:43 AM
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What are the suggestions for the payouts? And the pay in?
Alton Giants on
February 23, 2015 10:23 AM
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I'd vote LeageSafe as well since it's a higher payout, but I'm cool with whatever and will pay wherever I have to pay.
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I previously said let's pay through Ottoneu, however, lets just pay through leaguesafe. That seems to be the easiest way for us to go. And it means potentially bigger pots.
The Bad Whiffs on
February 21, 2015 12:13 PM
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I don't think there was much of a consensus. I will gladly start up leagusafe but not sure if I believe everyone is gonna pay. Going through oTToneu would ensure payment though I'd hope we don't lose anyone in the process. Kind of at a loss on this one as far as direction...
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i say we start it right at 12:30 central, otherwise there is no incentive to be on time.
Have we decided what we are going to do about payment? Are we going to use OttoNeu or something else?
Alton Giants on
February 20, 2015 5:31 PM
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Are we starting the auction draft EXACTLY at 1:30 pm Eastern on February 28, or, will we allow a grace period of let's say 10 or 15 minutes to allow people extra time to make it?
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I'm in the all or nothing camp. I'm also cool with handling the money outside of ottoneu, especially if it means bigger payouts. As for the payout structure, something resembling how ottoneu weights the payouts would be fine. If altered, would rather 2nd and/or 3rd get more weight than 1st. I hate winner take all markets in fantasy and in the real world, haha.
Dreamweavers on
February 14, 2015 1:53 AM
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I have to admit OOTP looks interesting, but I doubt I'd have the time to devote to being competitive on both sites. I'm here a lot already.
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As much as I would like to play in other fantasy baseball leagues, I'm hooked on OttoNeu and will stay here. This is by far the best fantasy baseball format available.
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http://files.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0155/index.html
Alton Giants on
February 13, 2015 12:54 PM
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I'd love to, but I have no idea how it works.
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We ought to get an OOTP league going as well.
Alton Giants on
February 13, 2015 12:49 PM
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I play while I'm at work and it makes me VERY unproductive.
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Does anyone play OOTP baseball? I highly recommend it. I am going to put our opening day rosters in their system and run a simulation. Of course it will be based off of last years statistics, but it should be fun.
Alton Giants on
February 13, 2015 12:36 PM
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I'd be cool with just paying ottoneu
The Bad Whiffs on
February 13, 2015 10:21 AM
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And they provide a "trustworthy" service
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Fine with those allocations but oTToneu really only profits $30 more than they otherwise would bc we already pay 10
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Ottoneu does it 300-100-50, so they can make a profit of 150. If everybody pays, I believe the winner should get more money, something like 400-150-50, or, if everybody doesn't pay, then we'd go with percentage of the pot something like 65%-25%-and 3rd place gets money back. Any thoughts?
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Oh yeah I guess the 50 would be on top of the 10 though all this money get paid out. Before only like 7 people paid and we only did 20 so it was something like 100-40. We could structure payout however we want once we know what the pool is.
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Sorry, I meant in the way you guys did it before.
Dreamweavers on
February 12, 2015 9:52 PM
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I'm not sure about the ability or logistics of changing tiers but I'd imagine 40 on top of 10. Payouts per rules are 300-100-50
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So, would we pay 40 on top of the 10 for a total of 50, or 50 on top of 10 for a total of 60? And what would the payouts be?
Dreamweavers on
February 12, 2015 9:49 PM
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Montreal we actually give ottoneu more money but upping to $50. 10x12=120 vs 50x12=600-payouts(300+100+50=450)=150. However if it makes everything easier I'm fine with that. Certainly easier for me and eliminates the mandatory pay issue.
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Since there is money involved in this league, I believe everybody should pay. I only know the person who invited me to this league, so without money, its not like there is huge motivation for me to finish ahead of other owners. Money makes things more interesting because you are willing to make a wager to prove you have a clue about baseball and how to manage a team. If part of the league is going to pay and part of the league is not, why should I be here? To me, its either all or nothing.
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I had just assumed that the league would be upgraded to the $50 tier. That way, you can't join/renew without payment. Also takes care of the payouts without need for separate system. Otherwise we're just giving Ottoneu free money, no?
Dreamweavers on
February 12, 2015 3:06 PM
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it always does that for some reason. I always switch screens after posting something just in case.
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not sure why refreshing my browser posted that again
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Well obviously we prefer that everyone pays but thats kind of the point of my question - is it mandatory. Your answer suggests it should not be, which is fine. In that case I will make sure to post who is in and who is out - mostly for shaming purposes lol.
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I vote for the same system as last year - non-mandatory payment with the consequence of non-payment being no ability to win at the end. I also vote for the increase to $50 each.
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Well obviously we prefer that everyone pays but thats kind of the point of my question - is it mandatory. Your answer suggests it should not be, which is fine. In that case I will make sure to post who is in and who is out - mostly for shaming purposes lol.
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I would prefer everybody pay the $50, and those that don't just don't get any money at the end of the year. No reason to penalize anybody if they don't want to pay. The shame of knowing they're women is penalty enough.
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In the event we give the new guys the option to wait a year (which I agree with) they would obviously not be eligible if they choose not to pay.
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Payouts tbd based on answers to the below.
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I just need to set up leaguesafe again - $50 was the consensus amount. The question I have for you all is do we want this to be a league requirement aka will we "punish" those who don't pay & if so how (ie lock teams from making moves or straight up trying to replace them after the season. Something else?)? If not we will just have to keep track of who paid and who didn't and only those who did will be eligible for the prize. Also should the new guys should have the option to wait a year to pay?
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what's the money gonna be again? $50?
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Never mind about the draft question, I see now that it is posted here on the site. But, what about paying in?
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Has the commish officially sanctioned our draft date and time, and when are we going to put up money?
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Has the commish officially sanctioned our draft date and time, and when are we going to put up money?
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Is it the 28h yet...... How many times can I look at my roster organizer before I have some sort of epiphany haha
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sorry - I said 1/28 but I meant 2/28 - 12:30 pm CST on 2/28 is perfect
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I can do the draft at 12:30 pm CST on 1/28 (just not before that), and I vote to keep our current system
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since we are having strong objections to changing the arbitration system, we'll keep it as Vote Off
Alton Giants on
February 6, 2015 2:07 PM
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that is 1:30 ET, so 12:30 central
Alton Giants on
February 6, 2015 2:05 PM
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How about just push it back 30 min to 1? That should work right?
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I also object to changing arbitration. If Grids can't make the time I say we switch the time.
The Bad Whiffs on
February 6, 2015 12:53 PM
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No objections to the 12:30 pm Central draft time on 2/28. But, I strongly object to switching from Vote Off to Arbitration. If I understand the rules, the most a team could have added to it would be $33, which in essence would rise salaries and cause salary dumps. But, with the Vote Off system, you'll always have 12 high quality RFA in the auction pool each year. And, you can bet your ass this year that I'm going to be bidding up the price of Johnny Cueto just so the commish will lose him.
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I can handle 12:30 pm - earlier than noon would not have been possible, but 12:30 is OK
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