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Wow did you seriously reverse both trades for your benefit. Looks that way to me. We have a veto system in place and it should be used. When did this become a dictatorship? The only fair thing to do is to allow the other owners to vote.
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There is a veto system in place. That should be the only way to keep a trade from going through once it has been accepted. I have rarely voted to veto or accept but do try to exercise that option when possible. I have had people vote to veto and accept trades that I have done. Assigning player values, trade values, wants and needs is up to the discretion of each owner. Rallying owners to veto is an option if it is that egregious. Reversal after the fact is a bad precedent.
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Let me guess more crickets because pretty indefensible to run a league this way
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Every piece I have on block for win now stomp Ben and his dad into the ground mode. Oh wait they will just be over turned so screw it. Commish can I get a list of deals you will potentially allow
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I genuinely do not understand how everyone is okay with what just happened. No wonder he’s in first and his team looks the way it does. Has any title you won been legit or do you always throw tantrums and change the rules? I’m contacting Ottoneu and reporting it because it one of the only recourses I have.
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This is seriously unfair
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There is a veto system if there was a need to veto or reversal you would have been contacted immediately
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You can’t just ask for something to be reversed after being badgered on the issue. I was offered a deal I accepted there was never a ask for reversal until you took issue with the deal
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The other team owner who said something on the message board was the team involved in the deal. They asked for the trade to be reversed, both on the message board and in a private message, and I honored that request.
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I was never messaged and no one beyond you and one other team owner said anything and you reverse the deal; again as someone who directly benefitted from that decision.
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Isn’t there a voting system already in place?
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Wait why would both deals be reversed with no league vote of any kind. I do not know the owner of the league in any way and the person has had interest in bellinger all year. Is this how the league operates? No discussions someone with something to gain by the trades not going through has the ability to reverse them so does so?
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For the record, WTF has not offered me any trade with either Donaldson or Blackmon at any point this year.
I will reverse the trades as requested by WTF.
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I received this message from WTF at 9:50.
There is an unread message waiting for BEN AND DADDY in SABRtastic.
1 message(s) from WTF
Hey you can drop me I'm not going to come back so reverse the deals and I'll move on. I'm in the middle of a move myself so I was going to cut down this offseason. Ive been offering up Donaldson and Blackmon and others to everyone including you I think. Either way I'm checking out but will set lineups and not engage in trades.
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Please reverse those deals.
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Corey Seager is a significantly better keeper than Cody Bellinger and you just traded him, to the exact same team for a crappy return. The fact that you’re trying to defend the trade you just made by talking about player ages when you just traded for an overpriced, 30 year old, Jorge Soler leads me to believe that there actually is something fishy going on.
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Age doesn’t mean much if it’s an undervalued asset. Justin Verlander is 39 and coming off TJ surgery and seems like a good keeper at $8.
And Cody Bellinger is a joke at $31. His average price right now is $21 and his last 10 adds have averaged $17 which means he has significant negative value as a $33 keeper for next year. Actually he should be dropped at $31 not getting significant value in return.
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Blackmon is 36 tomorrow and Donaldson is 37 next season I think.
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You'd keep Donaldson, Blackmon and ERod?
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I'm confused. Why is Illumanti (currently in 2nd place) trading an unkeepable veteran to WTF (currently in 8th and clearly rebuilding) for three less expensive and much more keepable players?
The first trade between the two teams was questionable at best but I guess if you squint you could make an argument that acquiring Dustin May was worth it but this trade pushes me to wonder what exactly is going on.
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I’m sorry I didn’t see that message sooner. That’s a crazy. Looks like a yankee box score lol
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Have a day, Illuminati! I just looked at the daily stats, and your team is 13-20, with 7 HRs! Incredible!
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Lesson learned. Don’t drink and play fantasy sports. I was trying to get more cap by putting players that I had dropped previously and then cutting them. I was on the wrong team and put thier players up. Totally screwed my self
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Can’t make that stuff up!!
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Did 2 Diego Castillo's just get cut by the same team on the same day???
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Woops - mixed up my teams and waived the wrong Luis Garcia. Commish - any chance you can reinstate him and I’ll waive another player?
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Switching gears. I am looking to compete this year and am willing to move Tatis with the injury news.
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I've had a lot of interest in Wander Franco. I'm open to moving him for the most competitive 2022 package I can get. I mean. If there is even a 2022 season...
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We’ll keep it as is. See everyone tomorrow night!
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What the heck - let’s do it. Opens our rosters for more trading!
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I took work off for this Sunday
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Gives us something to do.
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I’m prepped and ready to draft. Lockout Didn’t seem to impact much. That said, I also don’t have a strong opinion if others want to wait
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Our draft is scheduled for Sunday night. With no end in sight to the lock out, would anyone like to delay the draft until after a new CBA is signed?
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Actively trying to move a few veterans before the deadline. Stroman, Wainwright, Belt and Barnes. None are great values but all provide a little surplus at their positions. Message me if you are interested and let's make a deal!
BEN AND DADDY on
February 14, 2022 3:45 PM
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Everybody is paid for the year! Please remember that the keeper deadline (which also includes trades) has been pushed to February 15th.
BEN AND DADDY on
January 31, 2022 1:30 PM
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The Ottoneu Keeper Deadline has been pushed back to February 15th (from January 31st).
Depending on what happens with the lockout it is possible that the deadline will be pushed further out.
BEN AND DADDY on
January 18, 2022 4:07 PM
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Hope you feel better soon, Commish
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I apologize for the delay in posting the draft day. I was under the weather for the last couple of days.
Based on availability (and there were A LOT of dates that people couldn't do!), we are going to draft on Sunday March 6th at 8:00 PM.
BEN AND DADDY on
January 14, 2022 12:13 PM
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Last call for Draft Day dates that you are NOT available for. Thank you to those that have gotten me those dates already. I am going to pick a draft date on Wednesday morning so if you haven't messaged me already, please do so ASAP. If I haven't heard from you by Wednesday morning, I am going to assume that you are available to draft any evening in February and March.
BEN AND DADDY on
January 10, 2022 10:44 AM
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Draft Date Scheduling-
Happy New Year everyone! Please message me a list of dates that you are NOT available to draft in February and March (You don't need to post the dates on the message board- you can just send me a private message). I'd like to pick a draft date as soon as possible so we can get it on everyone's schedule. I typically like to draft earlier in March but, due to the lockout, I will likely pick a date as close to Opening Day as possible this year.
BEN AND DADDY on
January 7, 2022 1:09 PM
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Feel free to send more offers if you like gentlemen, fyi im not really interested in trading my prospects in a return package just incase, thanks
Colenoscopy on
December 26, 2021 7:44 PM
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Hi guys I tried my best to put down players that im interested for on each team, also I updated who's available as of now on my team. Tbh right now I don't know what direction to go with this team but probably after a few days I'll figure it out so for a couple of days be patient with me lol. Thanks.
Colenoscopy on
November 28, 2021 10:55 PM
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I wrote in the comments players of interest. I don’t know who anyone is most interested in or how they value them so I just wanted each team to know the guys I’d be most likely to trade for. Also always shoot back counters I enjoy figuring out common ground
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That is generally a way to express interest in players in a quick and convenient way.
Ship of Fools on
November 27, 2021 2:45 PM
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New Guy, you proposed a trade where you gave up literally nothing and asked for all my best players....
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Welcome, New Guy!
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Hi everybody I took over one of the teams and everyone is on the block except Ohtani
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Hi all. Thanks for having me!
Ship of Fools on
November 11, 2021 4:20 PM
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Placed arb. I’m out for next season
Ship of Fools on
November 11, 2021 9:17 AM
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