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I try not to look at trades in a vacuum. Roster construction and your own personal valuations of players are a huge part of it. In saying that, ya this trade may not be "equal" but I can see both sides of it. I probably wouldn't make it but that doesn't mean you need to drag the people that are involved in. Slack is a good source of info but it is not the be all and end all. Most of the guys there will tell you they aren't 5x5 players anyway.
Rotolobotomy on
September 1, 2017 12:56 PM
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A reminder again that this trade came about through discussion and negotiation of 2 willing and experienced fantasy players. In 4 Ottoneu leagues over 5 years, I have never seen or voted for a veto. VERY rare circumstances where they are appropriate....IMHO
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 12:52 PM
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I'll openly acknowledge I've got almost no chance at a 2017 title, it's between Quantum and Plum and has been for a couple weeks. I even responded to inquiries to my team earlier this week that I thought I was out of it and have declined to throw good money after bad at this point. This trade is about 2018 and beyond. It's just way too lopsided, please do not continue to try and justify it.
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It is comforting to all i am sure that Oxford's comments are coming from a completely unbiased position, looking out for the best of the league...not from some one in a near three way tie for the lead.
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 12:48 PM
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New comment from Slack "Out of all the bad trades, that one deserves a medal."
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I know that opinions vary (widely) on players, that is part of the fun of this game. I fall on the side that believes this trade is pretty lopsided, though, and vetoed it more because we are given that opportunity. Given that this isn't a prize league, I don't care too much about it beyond voting, though. I guess we'll find out what the others think about it when the trade processes.
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I put it up on Slack to get a wider range of opinions. A could quotes so far "That one is pretty terrible." "Super terrible" Both from main members of the community.
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I'd keep Bichette and Smith. Steals are getting expensive, and I've seen Bichette play a few times in person. He is impressive.
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Opinions vary, I get that. I just see this as giving up a $10+ Colome for 3 keepers one of which is a $16+ Trea Turner.
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Plum, you want Turner, I get it. You don't want anything to block this trade and possibly lose Turner, I get that as well. We've all been there on our one sided trades. As for 4 clear cuts, that's how I see it, happy to have a name by name discussion with everyone. 4 Me: Solarte at $9 even with SS is a cut, Colome at $10 for 2018 is a keep, $15 Sanchez is a cut, Mallex Smith at $5 is a cut, Bobafett at $6 and a couple years away from the majors is also a cut.
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Wow....tell us how you really feel!! Your claim of "4 clear cuts" might be the most ridiculous thing I have read on a message board, in my 5 years in Ottoneu. Happy to have a discussion...let's try to keep it civil.
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 11:12 AM
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It's not a this year vs future question, it's completely one sided towards Plum for 2018+. Anyway this is prob the most lopsided trade I have seen in my three years in Ottoneu.
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4 clear cuts and $8 Colome for $14 Turner, who is prob the most valuable asset in the league at is price, plus a top 40 player in Smoak for $5 and a good priced McCullers at $10. If it was only Turner would still be lopsided, If it was just the other two and no Turner it would still be better off for Plum, as it is it's a joke.
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That was more or less what I thought. It was a pretty clear buy/sell trade at the deadline.
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From my standpoint, Plum wanted Turner and I'm looking for chips for next season. Seems reasonable to me.
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Worked on the deal for a week...sent at least 5 different packages involving about 8 different players from my team...not sure of the issue.
Plum Smuggler on
September 1, 2017 8:44 AM
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Why would it be?
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That trade is a joke, right?
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I have some extra cap dollars that I would trade to someone interested in acquiring some more cap space for the stretch run. I also am still looking to move Miggy.
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I'm looking to move Kemp, S. Perez, and Bud Norris. I'll take any reasonable offer.
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