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Based on the majority’s opinion and the fact that a few owners haven’t logged into the site in days I will cancel the trade-Commish
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Veto is for collusion only. That hasn’t been the case here lately and it isn’t right.
The prospects I sell each year for the non keepers usually work out for the other owner because I sure as shit know what I am doing. Especially with the pitchers. -ClosersRUs
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The other owners haven’t logged in in a few days. I have the right to present my side of the situation as an owner, that’s it.
I also accept the responsibility as the commissioner and will do what the majority and rules dictate, etc. whenever there is an issue. If this was between two other owners I would honestly ask the league to vote on the deal so that’s what we are going to do here.
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Dude, calm down and listen to what we're saying. Nobody was calling into question the validity of the trade until you brought it up. All we are saying is that he accepted the trade at 11:58pm and at 12:15 AM (17 minutes later) he posted to the message board that he messed up. We have set the precedent in this league that we understand we make mistakes and sometimes click the button too fast or without double checking. We're human. He realized his mistake 17 minutes later. Give the dude a break.
The JHey Kid on
June 24, 2019 4:26 PM
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please vote
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prior deals meaning those I accepted in good faith to try to help my team get better, ill keep sending offers...
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I was referring to Potato’s BS and prior deals. I respect your point of view deGrom, I simply disagree as many deals were sent back and forth regarding these players. Posting screenshots of offers is not were this can go. Lets move on. He sent ME the offer. I accepted it. If he changes his mind then he has the right to state his case. the crap about it being a bad deal and non transparent to the whole league is what is BS from
my perspective. Ill get leas return now bc he changes his mind???
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You are holding it hostage and forcing a veto vote in the hopes some owners don't read about the situation and miss voting so it's processed... all for your benefit. Doesn't sound right or just from a commissioner in my book. Not a single owner has chimed in here in your favor and all have said reverse it.
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I really don't want to get into an argument over the merits of the trade but is 26 year old Machado the aging star or one of the two non-keepers? i will 100% be keeping Machado if he doesn't get traded, Murphy is borderline keepable at his price and in COL, and Kershaw is not finished yet.. I didn't want to re-offer you the same trade i was countering... hence the mistake part and making it known immediately.
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Nobody is saying this is collusion or has anything at all to do with you at all. As stated by VBB, this was a mistake on them, and they noted it immediately in the forum. In other times when something along these lines has happened to other owners, it was just reversed and everyone moved on. Yet because your the benefactor of the mistake, you don't want to reverse it. The veto vote has nothing to do with fairness or the value of the deal.
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I guarantee in a year you will regret not taking that haul but you shouldn’t have sent a trade offer if you didn’t want to accept it. It isn’t complicated to figure out. Tanaka, Hicks, Mateo, Andujar, and Martin + for two non keepers and an aging star was good for both sides.
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Everyone should vote. I disagree-I have never done anything collusive in anyway whatsoever and the vetos are BS. One year a player was traded for $0 to give an owner an advantage over me. The Trout deal veto last year was BS. the Andujar thing this year.
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Every other situation when this happened, it was simply reversed. I understand the commish doesn't want to follow the same protocol here. I'll also veto.
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I’ll veto. I assumed this was one of those Godfather trades the commish makes with his buddy, but it’s clearly a mistake. Just re-work the deal.
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This was a different order of pressing buttons and interstitial messages but this isn't that much different, "Vogelbachs 2nd Concerto in D Majors on September 28, 2018 2:03 PM- I accepted a trade from SABR by mistake. I cancelled it immediately. I apologize for any confusion. It wasn't an offer that I was even remotely considering. I simply clicked the wrong button. My apologies." I would be in favor of taking whatever action was taken this time. This has nothing to do with fairness of
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Agreed on letting everyone vote. A mistake is a mistake. By no means am I calling your commissionership into question, I have been commissioner of leagues for many years, I know the work that goes into it. Yes, this is my first year in the league, and I enjoy it immensely and appreciate the league welcoming me in.
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Not saying unfair as in unbalanced (agree that that alone isn't a reason to reverse)--saying unfair as in allowing a mistake to stand for no reason.
Pitch Glock on
June 24, 2019 1:44 PM
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It overwhelming looks valid that this was a mistake counter of a deal offered to him from a new owner, and they said so moments after it was processed. This has happened multiple times in the league, just reverse it, continue negotiating and move on.
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That's a fair way to do it--the rest of the league should just decide. Is there anyone besides the commish who thinks the trade should stand? If so, would suggest speaking up now, and if there aren't more votes to let it stand than to reverse it would suggest the commish reverse it. I say reverse.
Pitch Glock on
June 24, 2019 1:42 PM
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“fairness” isn’t a reason to veto. look at what you deemed to be “unfair” in the past-i don’t waste space with poor prospects. Mateo, Martin, Hicks, and Andujar are legit. Tanaka is a SP1 on the best team and BG is awesome for counting stats, among others for 2 probably 3 rentals?? I gave up a lot here
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VBB is brand new in the league and not anyones brother? I agree with La Grange on reversing. That has been the precident every other time this happened if the owner posted immediately saying so.
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VBB’s is this your first year in the league? And you are the brother of another owner? I started the league and have been the commissioner since its inception. There are still lots of OG owners here who would agree that I have done a good job to keep this league together. I encourage everyone to vote as they see fit.
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This was obviously a mistake--no one would accept that trade, even for a minute before having buyers' remorse. I'd reverse it for fairness.
Pitch Glock on
June 24, 2019 1:36 PM
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the receipts of every trade I offered you asking for the same or extremely similar package for those 3 guys.
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dude... i also sent you the offer for Buehler, Hicks, Andujar, Biggio, Mateo, and Escobar at the same time... not one time in the back and forth we have had have i ever asked for or wanted Tanaka, Polanco, Lynn, Martin, Smoak or Gardner. Why would i decline and reoffer the same EXACT trade, and also offer a completely different counter.
Look at the end of the day, you're not gonna reverse it and everyone in the league thinks it's not right then whatever. But i have no problem providing...
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This is complete BS. HE sent me an offer after being asked to verify the offer and I accepted it. All
of the players I dealt are great pieces for next year and you all know it. But now they can get picked apart on a message board bc an owner gets wet feet after sending me a huge offer. This diminishes my ability to win, AGAIN. Everyone can vote as they see fit but we must maintain integrity with the rules of our league. Seriously.
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I understand what you are saying about not waiting to know what you were willing to offer, however all of those guys are on your block pretty much, so it's pretty obvious you were trying to move those guys. I sent you a counter offer (with the same guys i have been requesting for Machado, Kershaw and Murphy) and for some reason it also sent the same trade you offered me back to you... that didn't seem odd?
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OR the entire rest of the league wanted to scrap it: Is there anyone who doesn't think this should be vetoed, solely based on the facts available to us that VBB accepted (or proposed) by mistake?
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That makes no difference whether or not you went back and forth. I could understand if the next day or something he wanted to back out...this was less than 10 minutes after!! You can't tell me you planned the whole rest of the season and made offers and bids and whatever else in those 10 minutes in the middle of the night!
The JHey Kid on
June 24, 2019 1:25 PM
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Lol, what you were willing to pay... Bunch of scraps? I don't think seeing this package gives us any insight we didn't know already. This situation has happened a few times in this league already, whether accidentally accepted on mobile or whatever and as long as the team posted right away which happened here... It was reversed.
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If we hadn’t been in constant back and forth on this I could understand your point of view but buyers remorse is not reason to veto. If it is vetoed bc of this reason it also puts me at another disadvantage bc everyone can now see what I was willing to pay for rentals, etc.
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We have had a similar situation before at least once and the trade has been reversed. Especially because he posted to the board that he messed up right after it was accepted. I will veto if it isn't just scrapped.
The JHey Kid on
June 24, 2019 1:16 PM
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also, why would i trade my two best chips for 5 guys im not gonna keep and would have to cut guys from my roster
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This is not the first time there's been accidental offer or acceptance and have never not seen it reversed before. To be fair looks like it was posted to the league board about the mistake just minutes after the deal was accepted.
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especially when i have rejected that package 15 times and countered with the only guys id be willing to accept... im surely willing to screen shot the 10 times i countered your trade with the same package
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As Commissioner I would have no issues if BOTH owners OR the entire rest of the league wanted to scrap it however that is not the case in this situation. VBB-if you want to reach out to Niv (Ottoneu) if you disagree how this will be handled please do so. Thanks.
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homie.... buyers remorse? why would i offer you the same trade you offered me.... and also a counter trade at the same exact time
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There is a second message when you counter an offer that says “are you sure you want to propose, etc. I accepted this trade after many back and forth offers with VBBoys and have made other offers and plans for my roster based on this deal which we have been going back and forth for awhile. I
don’t think buyers remorse is a reason to rescind a trade.
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The trade that was accepted is a mistake, I sent a counter offer and it resent the original trade that was offered. I don’t know what the rule is here but I have a rejected trade of what was supposed to be the counter offer.
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Kimbrel and Doolittle and Cain are about to move. Please send best offers. Im looking for power at 1B and 2B.
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Any offers for Harper?
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