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Jesus. No need to attack everyone. All we’re saying is it’s BS Godfather only trades with you and a trade like this happens every year. And if, like you say, Godfather gets “tremendous” value in return in all these trades then he wouldn’t be in this situation every single year.
The JHey Kid on
June 26, 2018 7:28 PM
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You just cut Mitch Moreland, the cleanup hitter on one of the best offensive teams in baseball for MAYBE but probably not even a slight improvement for MFing CLAYTON KERSHAW.....
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That’s horseshit Monday and you know it. Tremendous FV went GF’s way in that deal. I gave up a lot to try to make a run. I made tons of offers before this one was accepted and I gave up more than I was comfortable with and didn't exactly get back the players I wanted but I think it gives me a chance to beat Jabronie. If you veto that I think its garbage man.
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Why would anyone tell me the trades you offered them? That’s crazy man. You’re wrong.
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Unless Godfather is telling you the trades I offer him, which are definitely not offers I would propose to anyone else. But clearly he accepts them from you so why not try myself?
The JHey Kid on
June 26, 2018 4:29 PM
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Pretty sure the last time I proposed a trade to you was in May 2017 commish...and that was when we agreed on the Syndergaard deal.
The JHey Kid on
June 26, 2018 4:28 PM
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Also, you might want to look up the word collusion because I don't think you know what it means.
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Whatever, man. Some of us have to use those projections to find guys since we don't have a farm team in this league to pluck good players from whenever we need too.
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Razzball? Lol..
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Maybe you should find a better valuation tool. This is a dynasty league.
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Posting about votes for vetoing is fucking collusion. Adios Monday.
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BS. Look at the trade history. GF has made deals with other owners this year. Your offers are terrible JHey, thats why no one accepts them. I send tons of offers. Its funny how no one cries and bitches when other owners trade to try to improve their teams. If you all
want to ruin a good league go for it. Its weak and BS.
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We need 7 votes for a veto, correct?
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The biggest issue is not pure value of deals, it's that Godfather will not respond or consider deals from anyone else in the league, and when the time comes, only make a deal with you. That is the primary issue I believe we are all beyond frustrated with. Godfather acts as a feeder team for you alone year after year.
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I am vetoing as well, and agree with all the statements from the other owners below. The primary issue would not be one-off deals, but this happens every single season where he dumps all his valuable assets to you for 10 assorted parts/pieces... and never once considering trading with anyone else or trying to get a better package than what you offer. I'm done this year too unless Godfather is replaced by a new owner. It's just getting deflating year after year to watch these trades taint things
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ZERO colusion. Never have, bever will. Moncada, Verdugo, Joc, Two top SPs from NYY and BOS Red Sox, for a couple months of Trout, ZG, and an OF....get real. I have ran a great league for years. Im tired of this Yahoo BS. Vetoing is for colusion, not because you didn’t work hard enough or your jealous. I offered way more value for Altuve but I didn’t veto that deal or any of Jabronies deals (Cruz) just because I didn't like them bc I know both owners thought they were getting bettter. Ridicul
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That is a crazy argument -- this is a dynasty league, and Godfather keeps giving up high-value assets to you for little value for the future when he could get much more future value from others. You always say Godfather is getting better in the future, but there should be no surprise that he's in second to last place. This trade should be vetoed by everyone because the only reasonable explanation is some kind of collusion.
Pitch Glock on
June 26, 2018 1:29 PM
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I don’t even really care about collusion. Just threw the deal into Razzball’s trade analyzer which uses ROS steamer projections and the commish gains $163 in value. Godfather can trade or not trade with whoever he wants, but if it’s a deal that lopsided in a money league this close at the top of the standings, I think it’s more than fair for us to call bullshit.
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Better than the tradition of a controversial trade between these two teams is the tradition of the message board comments afterward.
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Ok forget the value sent back...the fact is that every year you make the same type of trade with Godfather. He does not even try to make a similar trade with any other owners or communicate with any other owners for that matter.
The JHey Kid on
June 26, 2018 1:24 PM
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With all due respect JHey, there is tremendous value in the players I sent his way. Look at the fucking standings after last years deal you are referring to. This is a dynasty league, not Yahoo
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I gave Godfather the benefit of the doubt on last year's deal, and I'm not arguing the value (or lack thereof) of the players the commish gave up. It's obvious that Godfather almost exclusively deals with one owner. I'm not sure if it's collusion or gross incompetence, but these deals would not keep happening if he made any attempt to get the best return for his players.
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You can never prove collusion and I'm not saying this is. But every single year you basically trade a bunch of guys that you'd most likely cut, which maybe one has decent value. And you get back guys that'll win you a championship. If it happened once, ok fine. But this happens every single year and Godfather doesn't even try to make trades with other teams that would probably give up more valuable assets than you do.
The JHey Kid on
June 26, 2018 12:51 PM
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Vetos are for colusion. When two owners willing agree to a deal
that makes them better for now or the next season it should not be vetoed. I’m giving up a lot here for a couple months of an aging pitcher on the decline and flr twoonths of the worlds best player. Grow up.
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Agree with La Flama Blanca. Even though this trade is way lopsided in my opinion, the fact that this happens every year between the same 2 teams is why I am going to veto. This is ruining the fun in this league. This has been a really fun league other than the fact that these type of trades happen between them 2 every year. Pretty soon teams are going to get fed up and not care about their teams and quit at the end of the year and this league will fall apart. Hope that doesn't happen.
The JHey Kid on
June 26, 2018 12:08 PM
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Vetoed too given the pattern of this happening -- Godfather, what's going on here? Doesn't seem even remotely close. Everyone should veto this trade.
Pitch Glock on
June 26, 2018 12:01 PM
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I’ll be vetoing also. I wouldn’t have a problem with the offer itself (even though it’s obviously bad imo). It’s the fact that this happens every year between the same 2 teams. I’ve made several offers and sent messages to Godfather about Trout with no response. I really enjoy this league but I’ll be finding a new league after this year unless Godfather is replaced.
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Another BS deal between the commish and Godfather. Does Godfather even consider anyone else's trade offers? Pretty sure I offered something more than commish is giving up for just Trout.
The JHey Kid on
June 26, 2018 10:54 AM
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Vetoing that deal and I hope others consider doing it too.
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My Morning Avila's trade block has been updated!
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Please continue to do your best to set a lineup each night so that each team maxes out games played, IP, etc. Also please reject, accept, or COUNTER trade offers in a reasonable timeframe. Thanks.
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Five teams within three points of the lead is nuts. Strong sellers market.
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Beliebers on
June 23, 2018 8:42 AM
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My Morning Avila's trade block has been updated!
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Haha we can thank Rick for that record if we break it!
The JHey Kid on
June 20, 2018 11:36 AM
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The Dog Days's trade block has been updated!
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We might beat the Ottoneu record for adds and drops in a season.
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The JHey Kid on
June 14, 2018 11:34 AM
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A Memory of Two Rick Mondays's trade block has been updated!
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Great career Miggy.
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