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Freddie Freeman available for those who are looking for a 1B upgrade
Bob's Fellers on
January 22, 2016 9:34 PM
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Awesome.
Cal Rikken on
January 22, 2016 7:37 PM
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Wallace and deGrommit's trade block has been updated!
Bob's Fellers on
January 21, 2016 4:01 PM
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~v~ Dragons ~v~'s trade block has been updated!
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Astronaughts's trade block has been updated!
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So any concerns over this becoming a out of control thing aren't very close to coming true
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 6:55 PM
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For reference, any veto would be the first this league ever had
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 6:53 PM
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Again, I think the trade is lopsided, but I am in leagues where that kind of vetoing has grown into a monster, and a few have shut down because if it.
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Here is my 2 cents on the trade. I approved it, on the basis that it does not appear to be collusion (although I don't personally know either party, and I don't know if they know each other) and I am an advocate of allowing owners to do what they want. Having said that, the trade does seem a bit lopsided when salaries are taken into consideration, but I would personally prefer the prospects that Dragons is receiving. a $4 Clay Bucholtz is very appealing to me as well.
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Wallace and deGrommit's trade block has been updated!
Bob's Fellers on
January 20, 2016 6:15 PM
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I guess we will see when they play the games. That being said, It is still within our right to veto a trade that we think is going to give one team an unfair advantage (not your team, sorry). And I am still fully going to pursue that avenue.
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 6:07 PM
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when the trades are complete, I'll be a mere -$2 in cap. I'll cut or trade Ellsbury and Moss - giving me more than enough to get the Pitching I'll need and 1 or 2 low priced batters. Maybe you all don't like the trades because they make me a lot stronger, and now a threat to actually win the league.... just sayin...
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Looking at their past tells me you would have had the best team about 3 years ago. Unfortunately, time moves on. But I'll still trade you Jamie Moyer if you're interested. He's filling my Tentatively Still Retired Roster Spot.
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http://www.nba.com/nets/news/nets-acquire-nba-champions-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-and-jason-terry
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:49 PM
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Ohh yeah, i realize who my UTL player is, forgot all about Cory Seager and Brandon Moss on my team.... Look all, Its January 20th... We don't even draft til March... I'll cut down to be under the cap and I'll have enough pitching to still compete and win. I'm not done trading, cutting.. and I know whom I'll be targeting in the draft, sleepers that in this league, I'll do well for cheap. I'll repeat it one last time... I know what I'm doing.
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You do realize Dragon that you will be over the cap with positions to fill and a mediocre at best pitching staff, right?
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:42 PM
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Overpaying steeply for players you can get without having to even trade anyone for is generally not considered knowing what you're doing. Especially when you give away your best players. And yes, I'd take just Leaf instead but only if he could rock the powder blues....ya know given his love of the powder.
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If these trades go thru, and they should.... Its my right to build my team that finished with a mere 39 points last year. My 2 Catchers are d'Arnaud and Gomes / 1B - Cabrera / 2B - Kinsler / SS - Desmond / MI - T. Turner / 3B - Moustakas / OFs - Choo - Grichuk - Trumbo - Marte - Ellsbury / UTL - not sure yet... Now do some homework and look at their pasts and their 2016 Projections... Then tell me I won't contend and the trades were unfair... I do my Homework - maybe you should too...
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LA those prices are kind of steep would you take Ryan Leaf and present day Muhammad Ali for trout tho?
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:35 PM
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Dragon, no one is argueing that both of those players aren't good. But at 95$ of total cost, they aren't worth it. I 100% guarentee you you could cut them right now and then get both of them for cheaper in the draft, and be able to own more people too.
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:32 PM
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Will throw in Maikel Franco, Matz and Urias for a mint condition Mike Hampton Topps Card.
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I'll throw in Berrios!
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I'm looking to swap Crush Davis, Josh Donaldson, JD Martinez and Trout for Kyle Kendrick, Randall Delgado, and Bobby Bonilla's contract if whoever has those would like to make a deal.
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I made the trade and another pending too.... I did so with full intentions on WINNING this year and years to come. I have been playing fantasy baseball for 15 years, and I know what I'm doing. When healthy, Cabrera is a monster in this league... Desmond had 1 bad year, but also Runs and HR, there are no SS that have averaged what he has. I think he'll sign with the White Sox and that will make him a 25-30 HR, 80-100 RS player easily there. I know what I'm doing.... even if you disagree
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I voted to veto the trade too. Just would totally shift the league dynamic, and Dragons is basically getting no value in return. Sorry to those involved.
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I voted to veto the trade too. Just would totally shift the league dynamic, and Dragons is basically getting no value in return. Sorry to those involved.
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And the fact that you, Wallace, basically admitted that you don't view Desmond and Cabrera as keepers is evidence enough that the value of your side going out could be had for MUCH much less than was given
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:14 PM
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And no offense again Dragon, but I think you are being absolutely swinded by this trade
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:09 PM
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There is nothing in the rulebook stating that a veto should be reserved for collusion and I will not be personally applying that logic until it does say that. If you as an owner, like me, feel that one team gets the demonstratively better deal out of a trade, then it is within your right to veto said trade
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:08 PM
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Everyone has different views on players, and I think that vetoes should be reserved for collusion cases. I understand some of the frustration because of Cabrera and Desmond, but Dragons must view Desmond and Cabrera as keepers otherwise he wouldn't have had them as centerpieces in this trade. If this goes through, I would be looking to move Freeman
Bob's Fellers on
January 20, 2016 5:05 PM
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I don't control that rule, but it is supposed to represent the majority of the league, being half +1. It is obviously hard to veto someone but the high bar is healthy I think. That said, I am fully campaigning for a veto at the moment
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 5:04 PM
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On another note, why are 7 vetoes needed? That means only 3 people in the league need to approve the trade or just not see it, given that the two teams involved accepted the trade.
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~v~ Dragons ~v~'s trade block has been updated!
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Yeah, that trade makes no sense in any world at those prices, especially when I'm pretty sure almost every player would have been a cut.
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If you all want to veto the Kinsler trade as well, thats fine by me. I was planning to keep Kinsler and Moss, but a 70$ miguel cabrera is at least -35$ in surplus value and in what world is ian desmond worth 25$. A better valued prospect in russell than crawford.
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 4:52 PM
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I agree. I don't think the trade made with you makes sense either. Moss is a drop and Kinsler is priced at auction value.
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Ive made the argument that Matthew (degrommit) has gotten away with some shit before but I really cannot believe the level of this one. We need 7 vetos to veto a trade. And I am going to be bothering people about making a decision on this trade in the next two days.
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 4:50 PM
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No personal offense to you Dragons, but you gave both the best players AND the best prospects AND took on 61 dollars in the process.
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 4:48 PM
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I am voting to veto that trade and I implore that others in this league do. I am not going to sit by while this league becomes less and less competitive while one person swindles people in trades.
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 4:47 PM
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Alright I gotta speak out. That last trade is batshit insane. Take on 61 dollars, including guys who he obviously needed to cut, and arguably get worse.
Cal Rikken on
January 20, 2016 4:45 PM
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Still looking to move Wieters or Grandal for an OF or MI. Would include Brad Miller for a better piece coming back.
Cal Rikken on
January 19, 2016 10:18 AM
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Reminder to make your final cuts before the end of the 31st! If you forget I will not be making commisioner cuts to help you out
Cal Rikken on
January 19, 2016 10:03 AM
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Joe Shlabotnik's trade block has been updated!
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~v~ Dragons ~v~'s trade block has been updated!
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Welcome LeVey!
Bob's Fellers on
January 15, 2016 5:25 PM
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I would consider moving Rubby de la Rosa if Iget back an elite SP.
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So an elite mi for a Mayne one day but not now elite mi sure makes tons of sense
Cal Rikken on
January 9, 2016 11:32 PM
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I bet that other player well be that Alex Gordon of yours that should be cut?
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Obviously you aren't going to move Corey Seager straight up for him, but I would imagine I could get a MI in that next tier
Bob's Fellers on
January 9, 2016 2:55 PM
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Depending upon who it is, I would add another player, but J.P. Crawford is viewed as a potential top-5 fantasy SS. I bet someone is willing to move a very productive to elite MI for him
Bob's Fellers on
January 9, 2016 2:53 PM
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