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My guess is having to pay to get off of Javier's salary. $20 for a guy worth maybe $5 (at most). It's a lot to give up, but if you believe in Bello, it's justifiable. The option is there to vote against it, though.
GF Chaunceys on
March 19, 2024 11:21 AM
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Skubal and Valdez for Singer and Bello, hmmm very odd deal which I don't understand
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Ok cool. Last year was my first time playing ottoneu so I hadn’t seen it before. I’m good with teams just using the trade voting option to veto something at any point if enough people think it starts to become unfair. Thanks for the context and the discussion!
Name TBD on
March 19, 2024 8:17 AM
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It would, obviously, be very different if it was the player + the cash to cover the player for nothing.
GF Chaunceys on
March 19, 2024 7:33 AM
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I also see no issue with it. It happens in other leagues I'm in, as well. It'd be weird if it was the same two teams over and over, but PNW wrote that it was available to the whole league and someone took it. Gave him the $6 free space, and the other team a player they wanted.
GF Chaunceys on
March 19, 2024 7:32 AM
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In MLB, I’m pretty sure you can’t trade players for nothing, and I’m assuming there’s good reason for that because of the incentives it potentially creates. I don’t have a problem with this trade specifically or think anyone did anything wrong here. I was just thinking that it bypasses the waiver process that already exists to reward lower ranked teams, and instead allows teams to skip that with a first come first served offer.
Name TBD on
March 19, 2024 7:23 AM
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That’s good context that it’s never led to issues in other leagues you’ve been in. I’m glad to hear that. My main point was that in waivers, there is 24 hours where anyone can bid, and the lowest ranked team gets priority. In this case, there was less than 24 hours, and if there had been multiple offers the receiving team could have picked which team they wanted to “give” the player to. To be clear, I’m not saying anything shady happened at all. And I see the trade-off for both sides.
Name TBD on
March 19, 2024 7:20 AM
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I don't understand what you mean by skipping the wire. One team is taking on cap which is as much if an asset as players are in this system (eg, loans), so they'll just have to make corresponding moves (or not be able to make moves) and other teams may benefit from that. For example, Wham Bam is now over the cap and will have to drop a player. I've seen it happen in a few leagues I'm in and it's never led to any issues.
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Yeah I get that. But they are also getting to skip the waiver line in the process, right? I get that anyone could’ve offered the same trade and probably didn’t, it just seems it could create some strange incentives if it becomes common practice.
Name TBD on
March 19, 2024 6:50 AM
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One said is getting a player, the other side is getting a full $6 (no cap penalty) and a roster spot, which is definitely not nothing. I'm totally fine with these trades
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I’m not sure that trades for nothing should be allowed. Am I wrong on that? Seems like that completely bypasses the whole concept of it being a “trade” if both sides don’t give up something of value.
Name TBD on
March 19, 2024 6:42 AM
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Alejandro Kirk is available for free in trade if you want to jump the waiver line.
PNW Sailors on
March 18, 2024 2:24 PM
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Looking to trade Pena and Javier if anyone is interested. Mainly looking for pitching or outfield
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Alright guys,
Everything transferred over well, with the exception of Bauer and Uwasawa, who I added manually. Please check your roster and the salary assigned to each player. I'm sure it's fine, but it will take you all less time to do your own team than it will take me to do 12. I have screenshots of every team from the draft saved for reference if you see a discrepancy.
GF Chaunceys on
March 15, 2024 7:19 PM
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I would like to turn Arcia or Estrada into a quality bench OF. I would also move either Darvish or maybe Imanaga.
PNW Sailors on
March 14, 2024 3:11 PM
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Draft is live!!
https://www.couchmanagers.com/auctions/?auction_id=838
GF Chaunceys on
March 8, 2024 3:05 PM
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Thank you
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For the same reason we can't do live (time zones), we can't fairly do a daily start/end as it's different for everyone. All players have 16 hours from when their first nominated, which should allow everyone to see players are nominated. After a new high bid is placed, the timer for that player sets back to 8 hours.
GF Chaunceys on
March 8, 2024 8:59 AM
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Is there a start and end everyday or is this going for 24 hours?
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To try to allow people better team planning - I have everyone set up with 1 nomination to start - meaning we should have 12 auctions going at once, if everyone is on the ball. The original nominator gets a new bid when their previous auction ends.
GF Chaunceys on
March 8, 2024 8:35 AM
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thanks for getting us set up! what will our slow draft settings be?
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To be clear, by tomorrow, I meant Friday. I get that I'm in a different time zone than some of you.
GF Chaunceys on
March 8, 2024 12:24 AM
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We're set-up in Couch Managers. Please double check your players/costs, but everything seemed good.
Also, please notice that player positions on CM do not necessarily match Ottoneu (several who are UTIL only here, have a position there based on "most common position expected"). Make sure to check back with Ottoneu BEFORE bidding on players. I won't dial back picks because of position errors/mismatches.
We'll get started tomorrow afternoon. Happy drafti
GF Chaunceys on
March 8, 2024 12:23 AM
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Yes, thanks everyone.
Once I'm home tonight, I will import rosters to CM site, and let you know. We'll plan on starting the draft tomorrow afternoon (3 PM ET) - 24 hours from now.
GF Chaunceys on
March 7, 2024 3:24 PM
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thanks for all getting signed up so quick, friends!
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Got ya thanks
Blue Falcons on
March 6, 2024 8:46 PM
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Thanks for the offer.
Once we have the last three teams signed up, I can export roster from here and import it there for all teams.
GF Chaunceys on
March 6, 2024 8:22 PM
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Any help needed to import my roster into CM
Blue Falcons on
March 6, 2024 7:43 PM
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Sure, hoping next year season opens normally in early April
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I will do Step 3, as soon as everyone is set up (Step 2). Please do this as soon as possible. It takes about 5 minutes, even if you don't have a CM account, and they're free (to join/participate).
GF Chaunceys on
March 6, 2024 9:52 AM
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The full process seems to be
(1) set up empty couch managers draft ✔️
(2) everyone registers in the couch managers league 🔜
(3) import current ottoneu rosters to CM
(4) do draft
(5) export CM draft results to ottoneu.
SIGN UP HERE: https://www.couchmanagers.com/auctions/?auction_id=838
PASSWORD: fangraph
GF Chaunceys on
March 6, 2024 9:51 AM
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I think this is the only answer to allow everyone to participate. Hopefully, next year, we'll be full earlier and can pick a date and then that'll be the date.
I'll start setting up the draft today, and we'll hopefully begin tomorrow morning, as there's only 2 weeks until the first games, and it will likely take 10 days or so.
GF Chaunceys on
March 6, 2024 9:37 AM
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Just do a couch managers slow draft so that everyone can participate. I think that's the best way forward.
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March 17 after 5pm MST will work for me.
Blue Falcons on
March 5, 2024 8:02 PM
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I’m available a little earlier on Sunday, but it looks like a lot of other people aren’t unfortunately. Hopefully Friday night (US time) works for everyone? Only a few people have responded so far.
Name TBD on
March 5, 2024 6:55 PM
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The Saturday slots worked best for me since that's Sunday here in NZ.
PNW Sailors on
March 5, 2024 3:57 PM
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I'm 19 hours ahead of US Mountain Time now, so the 5pm on the 17th would be 1pm on the 18th for me. I can do that time, but I'd only have ~90 minutes to draft before I'd have to leave to pick my kids up from school. I could do earlier that day -- like 3pm Mountain Time -- or later -- like 8pm my time, but that's like 1am Mountain Time :(
PNW Sailors on
March 5, 2024 3:56 PM
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Ray moved overseas so the timing is tricky.
GF Chaunceys on
March 5, 2024 2:07 PM
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PNW is there a time on the 17th later than 5pm Mountain time that works for you? We've got 9 teams available to draft in that day and I'm guessing we can find a time that works for you too.
Thanks,
Eric
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We didn't end up with any unanimous dates/times. I originally had something going on on the 15th, but I moved it to try another date. I've added this as an option (multiple times). I had to delete a date as we were maxed out, so deleted the 14th that was underwhelmingly selected. If this doesn't work as an option, I'll make a decision on slow draft or a time that is most selected.
https://rotowire.xoyondo.com/dp/WCvA9QNypRu13pw/33ymR8MGax
GF Chaunceys on
March 4, 2024 9:06 PM
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I am open to just keeping those guys if you all think it’s fairest
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You're right. It is the same owner. However, because the team went back into the pool, the game defaults to allow cuts. I'd argue that going forward, we wouldn't allow that, but since we didn't discuss it before, we followed the Ottoneu baseline.
GF Chaunceys on
March 3, 2024 3:04 PM
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Sorry if I'm wrong, but isn't Sleepers the same manager as before? If so, don't understand why they'd get extra cuts
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Waiting until tomorrow for last cuts, and last input/changes to the draft scheduler. After that, we'll have a date.
GF Chaunceys on
March 3, 2024 9:47 AM
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where we at on draft date?
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Welcome back Sleepers. You have your round of penalty free cuts since you missed the deadline before. Please make them soon, so people can start draft prep. Also, please following the link below to add input to when we do the draft.
https://rotowire.xoyondo.com/dp/WCvA9QNypRu13pw
GF Chaunceys on
February 25, 2024 1:20 PM
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I'm now available for the 17th but also happy to draft via couchmanagers if needed. Like Chaunceys said, it's not ideal but it's a decent alternative if we can't find a date.
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It looks like the two Sunday evenings are the best times overall. For the people that can’t do 5pm, I wonder if they could do 7pm Sunday instead?
Name TBD on
February 24, 2024 11:42 AM
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We have 10 of 11 owners that have filled out the survey, and our most populated time is 8 people available. Please look at the list again and see if your availability has changed or can be improved. If not, how do people feel about a "slow" auction through a site like couch managers? I'm doing my first one now, and it's fine. It's less desirable in my opinion, but it's something where we can all participate.
GF Chaunceys on
February 24, 2024 10:44 AM
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A quick reminder to get you to fill in the draft schedule posted below. 7 of our 11 current owners have done so.
Also, we're still missing an owner. If you know someone, please let me, and them, know about the team.
GF Chaunceys on
February 20, 2024 7:46 AM
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